Reconstruction of our Paleolithic ancestors

[Al-Ma'mun]

Target: Almamun_scaled Distance: 5.3356% / 0.05335608
51.4	South_Sudanese
42.0	Palestine_Natufian
3.8	Morocco_UP_Taforalt_(Iberomaurusian)
2.4	Ethiopia_4500BP
0.4	Ganj_Dareh_N

South Sudanese:

Natufians:

Iberomaurisians:

Ethiopian Hunter-Gatherer:

 

[Aurelian]

Someone here once said: Modern human look =/= ancient human look.

All these ppl like nilotes have significant of non nilotes ancestry like Niger-Congo bantu admixture

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

Someone here once said: Modern human look =/= ancient human look.

All these ppl like nilotes have significant of non nilotes ancestry like Niger-Congo bantu admixture

The two MENA are based on actual ancient specimens from the Natufian and IBM cultures.The Natufians are not exactly our ancestors as we are likely a IBM + Egyptian HG + Levantine Combo as the Natufians have heavy North African admixture from the earliest E-M78 carriers, our paternal ancestors the Iberomaurisians:

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

@Nilotic and ours possible ancestors (females tho) is this ice cream cone head ass nigga

 

[Aurelian]

The two MENA are based on actual ancient specimens from the Natufian and IBM cultures.The Natufians are not exactly our ancestors as we are likely a IBM + Egyptian HG + Levantine Combo as the Natufians have heavy North African admixture from the earliest E-M78 carriers, our paternal ancestors the Iberomaurisians:

We have Iberomaurisians in us?

Any way this look resembles Moroccan guy I knew once. I swear to god he looks exactly like this.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

More of our Ancient North African E-M78 ancestors:

 

[tariq moses]

I doubt we have actual IBM ancestry tbh, Horners can't be modelled with a drop of West African-like ancestry that the Taforalt samples were relatively rich in.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

We have Iberomaurisians in us?
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Any way this look resembles Moroccan guy I knew once. I swear to god he looks exactly like this.

The Moroccans (especially from the Sous region) are the most IBM heavy Maghrebis especially the non-Madow admixed Berbers

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

I doubt we have actual IBM ancestry tbh, Horners can't be modelled with a drop of West African-like ancestry that the Taforalt samples were relatively rich in.

Horners also can't be modelled with Barcin ancestry yet you be running like headless chicken in this forum claiming we got Egyptian or Neolithic Levantine ancestry

 

[tariq moses]

Horners also can't be modelled with Barcin ancestry yet you be running like headless chicken in this forum claiming we got Egyptian or Neolithic Levantine ancestry

Yes we 100% can, every single study that models our Eurasian ancestry choses to use EEF carrying groups when they could easily use Natufian, literally every single study.

 

[Aurelian]

@Al-Ma'mun Do south Africans and Zimbabweans have Cushitic ancestry thus Ancient North African Ancestry.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

Yes we 100% can, every single study that models our Eurasian ancestry choses to use EEF carrying groups when they could easily use Natufian, literally every single study.

You still dying on this hill are we? Nigga the fact you still can't find haplogroups associated with EEF like G and J2 plus plenty of actual runs that shows Horner lack Anatolian Farmer ancestry proves you wrong.

We ain't got nothing to do with those EEF European Farmers

 

[Qeelbax]

These people ugly ass shit. No way our fine asses came from this mix.



im thinking more

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

@Al-Ma'mun Do south Africans and Zimbabweans have Cushitic ancestry thus Ancient North African Ancestry.

Khoikhoi who are now extinct had Cushitic ancestry majority of these SE African madows don't.I think anything south of Tanzania generally lack Cushitic ancestry.Although you can find the occasional E-M293 South Cushitic lineages among madows south of Tanzania including South Africa

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

These people ugly ass shit. No way our fine asses came from this mix.



im thinking more
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The Sumerian looks funny af as I know a Southern Shia Iraqi who looks like him plus the Sumerian looks like a big nosed Mohamad Ramadan (famous Egyptian celebrity)

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

The Mali HG (probably genetically related to Maghrebi Taforalt with SSA admix) possible ancestors of the IBM heavy modern populations like the Tobou,Zaghawa & Fulanis perhaps

 

[Nilotic]

@Nilotic and ours possible ancestors (females tho) is this ice cream cone head ass nigga

Taas maxay tahay?

Negro looks like a damn alien.

That's a straight up act of anthropological violation by those white folks.

 

[Qeelbax]

The Sumerian looks funny af as I know a Southern Shia Iraqi who looks like him plus the Sumerian looks like a big nosed Mohamad Ramadan (famous Egyptian celebrity)

Mohamed ramadan is half negroid half araboid.

 

[tariq moses]

Nigga the fact you still can't find haplogroups associated with EEF like G and J2

A lack of certain haplogroups doesn't attest to a lack of whatever ancestry is associated with those haplogroups, where do you think K1a comes from? Its found amongst the Kenyan/Tanzanian aDNA even.

plenty of actual runs that shows Horner lack Anatolian Farmer ancestry proves you wrong.

You say "actual runs" like studies aren't "actual runs"? You need to address why so many studies find the Eurasian ancestry in the Horn to be modelled using groups carrying EEF, whether it be Sardinians, actual EEF/ANF, Chalcolithic Levantines or Late Period Egyptians, even KEB (EEF rich) works better as a source of ancestry for some PN individuals than the Natufian rich Bedouins in f4 stats. G25 isn't everything, there isn't a single study that corraborates with our Eurasian as being modelled as simply Natufian + Iranian.

How can you simultaneously maintain this position and the idea that we descend from Lower Nubia? Pastoralism in the Horn isn't older than 3500 BCE, you think Lower Nubia was devoid of Neolithic Levantine ancestry that recently? Thats a massive implication with your theory and its obviously not true.

 

[Al-Ma'mun]

A lack of certain haplogroups doesn't attest to a lack of whatever ancestry is associated with those haplogroups, where do you think K1a comes from? Its found amongst the Kenyan/Tanzanian aDNA even.

You say "actual runs" like studies aren't "actual runs"? You need to address why so many studies find the Eurasian ancestry in the Horn to be modelled using groups carrying EEF, whether it be Sardinians, actual EEF/ANF, Chalcolithic Levantines or Late Period Egyptians, even KEB (EEF rich) works better as a source of ancestry for some PN individuals than the Natufian rich Bedouins in f4 stats. G25 isn't everything, there isn't a single study that corraborates with our Eurasian as being modelled as simply Natufian + Iranian.

How can you simultaneously maintain this position and the idea that we descend from Lower Nubia? Pastoralism in the Horn isn't older than 3500 BCE, you think Lower Nubia was devoid of Neolithic Levantine ancestry that recently? Thats a massive implication with your theory and its obviously not true.

You are delusional if you think an IBM + Natufian-like population isn't the source of the majority of Somali MENA dna but Greek & Anatolian Farmer groups are...might as well kick yourself out my thread Tadesse Gebre and head to the Tigray front