Raw meat eating family that brushes their teeth with butter

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

@Shimbiris, didn't you advocate for 'Ancestral Diet', did Cadaans go around biting into livestock and poultry in the past.

They also don't drink Water.

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[ChiefFizzy]

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But, there was this one kid who was in my class when I was in High School, who ate butter for lunch, he would offer to trade us too, (he was punjabi)

 

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But, there was this one kid who was in my class when I was in High School, who ate butter for lunch, he would offer to trade us too, (he was punjabi)

It's a White Family that lives in the middle of nowhere on a farm, they eat raw meat and raw chicken.

Every 5 hours they eat something, they don't drink water but will wake up at 2 AM to drink a fermented milk drink.

The son eats 12 raw eggs a day. Oh and they brush their teeth with BUTTER.

They did a wife swap with a Black family that is hygienic and 'modern'.

 

[ChiefFizzy]

It's a White Family that lives in the middle of nowhere, that has a farm, they eat raw meat and raw chicken.

Every 5 hours they eat something, they don't drink water but will wake up at 2 AM to drink the fermented drink.

The son eats 12 raw eggs a day. Oh and they brush their teeth with BUTTER.

They did a wife swap with a Black family that is hygienic and 'modern'.

 

[Shimbiris]

I'll make more posts on the nutrition stuff soon. Laptop is down. But for now I'll just say that there is benefit in eating animal products more raw than cooked in that a lot of nutrients stay intact when raw that are denatured when cooked which is why cats, who are far more hyper carnivorous than us, suffer a lot long-term with cooked animal foods:



And the risks around eating raw, especially with a solid immune system which most people arguably lack nowadays, is pretty overblown if you source the foods from sanitary and reliable places and avoid some risky no-nos like chicken or pork even though some like this family go for that with no problem.

Our own ancestors did do "raw" eating on some level. Somali nomads had a general disdain for "tainting milk with fire" as Richard Burton put it in the 1800s and also liked to consume the hump fat of camels raw, though meats, with the exception of organs like liver, were normally cooked well-done.

Cooking isn't necessarily bad, though. Most people do notice that they digest raw meat easier and get some benefit from it but it's not necessary and there is archaeological evidence going back about a million years that we've cooked things like meat with no real evidence of having issues that I know of unlike cats.

 

[citrus_samurai]

I'll make more posts on the nutrition stuff soon. Laptop is down. But for now I'll just say that there is benefit in eating animal products more raw than cooked in that a lot of nutrients stay intact when raw that are denatured when cooked which is why cats, who are far more hyper carnivorous than us, suffer a lot long-term with cooked animal foods:



And the risks around eating raw, especially with a solid immune system which most people arguably lack nowadays, is pretty overblown if you source the foods from sanitary and reliable places and avoid some risky no-nos like chicken or pork even though some like this family go for that with no problem.

Our own ancestors did do "raw" eating on some level. Somali nomads had a general disdain for "tainting milk with fire" as Richard Burton put it in the 1800s and also liked to consume the hump fat of camels raw, though meats, with the exception of organs like liver, were normally cooked well-done.

Cooking isn't necessarily bad, though. Most people do notice that they digest raw meat easier and get some benefit from it but it's not necessary and there is archaeological evidence going back about a million years that we've cooked things like meat with no real evidence of having issues that I know of unlike cats.

Seems like Ethiopians know what they’re doing after all…

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I'll make more posts on the nutrition stuff soon. Laptop is down. But for now I'll just say that there is benefit in eating animal products more raw than cooked in that a lot of nutrients stay intact when raw that are denatured when cooked which is why cats, who are far more hyper carnivorous than us, suffer a lot long-term with cooked animal foods:



And the risks around eating raw, especially with a solid immune system which most people arguably lack nowadays, is pretty overblown if you source the foods from sanitary and reliable places and avoid some risky no-nos like chicken or pork even though some like this family go for that with no problem.

Our own ancestors did do "raw" eating on some level. Somali nomads had a general disdain for "tainting milk with fire" as Richard Burton put it in the 1800s and also liked to consume the hump fat of camels raw, though meats, with the exception of organs like liver, were normally cooked well-done.

Cooking isn't necessarily bad, though. Most people do notice that they digest raw meat easier and get some benefit from it but it's not necessary and there is archaeological evidence going back about a million years that we've cooked things like meat with no real evidence of having issues that I know of unlike cats.

The interesting thing with this family is that they avoid normal doctors and only consult 'nutritionists' who think like them.

I do think raw vegetables are good and they can even be tasty when seasoned/flavoured correctly.

Personally, I cannot even take medium rare meat, let alone raw.

As for Somali nomads, our ancestral diet would consist of what?

Camel Milk and its various forms
Camel meat-cooked
Grains?

 

[Shimbiris]

The interesting thing with this family is that they avoid normal doctors and only consult 'nutritionists' who think like them.

I do think raw vegetables are good and they can even be tasty when seasoned/flavoured correctly.

Personally, I cannot even take medium rare meat, let alone raw.

As for Somali nomads, our ancestral diet would consist of what?

Camel Milk and its various forms
Camel meat-cooked
Grains?

The day to day diet of Somali nomads was:

• Raw dairy (milk, yogurts, butter and ghee)
• Meat
• Organs (liver, tripe and kidneys)

They would only eat things like raw & wild honey, cultivated or wild fruits and flatbreads like canjeero occasionally and when they were in season with some nomads apparently going a whole lifetime without ever consuming grains.

The meat was overwhelmingly from goats and sheep, though. The principal meat animals of our ancestors were goats and sheep which is partly why they always had more of them than camels and cattle. Camels and cattle were more important as draft and trade animals and were only eaten on occasion. And the dairy sources could be mixed too. Some did come from goats and sheep.

I'd share sources for all this but, again, no laptop.

 

[GemState]

I've been conditioned to not be able to eat anything but well done beef, even if I see a bit of pink, I'll subconsciously hear cows mooing in the distance

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The day to day diet of Somali nomads was:

• Raw dairy (milk, yogurts, butter and ghee)
• Meat
• Organs (liver, tripe and kidneys)

They would only eat things like raw & wild honey, cultivated or wild fruits and flatbreads like canjeero occasionally and when they were in season with some nomads apparently going a whole lifetime without ever consuming grains.

The meat was overwhelmingly from goats and sheep, though. The principal meat animals of our ancestors were goats and sheep which is partly why they always had more of them than camels and cattle. Camels and cattle were more important as draft and trade animals and were only eaten on occasion. And the dairy sources could be mixed too. Some did come from goats and sheep.

I'd share sources for all this but, again, no laptop.

Thanks for explaining, it sounds like the Keto diet?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The raw meat family is hysterical and dramatic, what if they have tapeworms and that's what's causing the dramatics and mood swings.

Surely there are side-effects to eating raw meat and raw chicken.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Also @Shimbiris

I do believe the carb diet has affected Somali looks, the way nomads look and the way modern Somalis look is quite different, nomads of old had more defined bone structure and new-age Somalis seem to have softer chins and at times, a mouth-breather appearance.

 

[Shimbiris]

Thanks for explaining, it sounds like the Keto diet?

Somewhat. Keto is a bit iffy. Our ancestors and I mean all humans when I say this, did not really eat "Keto" like these therapeutic diets you see around where they'll say 70% fat, moderate protein and under 5-10% carbs. Yes, the carbs were normally very low due to grains not being a thing in the paleolithic and things like tubers and fruits not being abundant all year round or appropriate main sources of nutrition compared to meat or fish but our ancestors would have eaten instead pretty even amounts of protein and fat. Look at any animal food and you'll realize what I mean. Meats, fish, eggs, even dairy products... all have usually close to even amounts of fat and protein:

Being in ketosis all the time for a long time isn't even necessarily a good thing for things thyroid function which is why some groups like the Inuit have mutations that make it harder for them to get into ketosis whereas most other humans were either in low-grade ketosis or at times just not in it thanks to the higher protein pushing them out of it with gluconeogenesis, from what I remember reading.

And don't be deterred by the all the unfounded bullshit out there about protein and the kidneys. We are made for high protein consumption.

Anyway, Somali nomads did eat a fair amount of carbs since they were pastoralists who drank a lot of milk which contains lactose but they did often ferment it (same process as that "high meat"which that odd family talks about in the video; you let microbes predigest the milk a bit for you) which would remove a lot of the lactose in milk and make it more just protein and fat but yes, let's just say they ate a fairly carnivorous diet most of the year.

 

[citrus_samurai]

I love calooley

 

[Hybrid()]

I'll make more posts on the nutrition stuff soon. Laptop is down. But for now I'll just say that there is benefit in eating animal products more raw than cooked in that a lot of nutrients stay intact when raw that are denatured when cooked which is why cats, who are far more hyper carnivorous than us, suffer a lot long-term with cooked animal foods:



And the risks around eating raw, especially with a solid immune system which most people arguably lack nowadays, is pretty overblown if you source the foods from sanitary and reliable places and avoid some risky no-nos like chicken or pork even though some like this family go for that with no problem.

Our own ancestors did do "raw" eating on some level. Somali nomads had a general disdain for "tainting milk with fire" as Richard Burton put it in the 1800s and also liked to consume the hump fat of camels raw, though meats, with the exception of organs like liver, were normally cooked well-done.

Cooking isn't necessarily bad, though. Most people do notice that they digest raw meat easier and get some benefit from it but it's not necessary and there is archaeological evidence going back about a million years that we've cooked things like meat with no real evidence of having issues that I know of unlike cats.

I always heard we digest cooked meat better than raw meat. Humans never evolved to be carnivores and we don't have the same gut or produce the same digestive juices as a carnivore. Can you provide some link.

The day to day diet of Somali nomads was:

• Raw dairy (milk, yogurts, butter and ghee)
• Meat
• Organs (liver, tripe and kidneys)

They would only eat things like raw & wild honey, cultivated or wild fruits and flatbreads like canjeero occasionally and when they were in season with some nomads apparently going a whole lifetime without ever consuming grains.

The meat was overwhelmingly from goats and sheep, though. The principal meat animals of our ancestors were goats and sheep which is partly why they always had more of them than camels and cattle. Camels and cattle were more important as draft and trade animals and were only eaten on occasion. And the dairy sources could be mixed too. Some did come from goats and sheep.

I'd share sources for all this but, again, no laptop.

Most somalis began eating grains recently. My grandfather used to buy grains from Ethiopia and didn't start growing maize and grains until the 90s but they still consumed more dairy since they didn't sell their milk ( nowdays, reer baadiye ship almost all their milk to to the city) Camel herders like many of uncles used to herd their camels far away from home. Their main source of food was camel milk along with some wild berries. If we go back 400+ years ago, the Somali diet was mainly dairy (milk, butter milk) and wild berries. Meat consumption was probably done once a month. The average geeljirre back then could get close to 80g from their diet with lots of lots of calcium, vC and so on...making them 1 of the most well nourished people in those days.

 

[Zoobear]

A hunting tradition in the U.S. after your first deer kill is to wipe the blood on your face/cheeks, drink it or for the reer baadiyo ones take a bite out of the still-beating heart.

 

[Shimbiris]

I always heard we digest cooked meat better than raw meat. Humans never evolved to be carnivores and we don't have the same gut or produce the same digestive juices as a carnivore. Can you provide some link.

Most somalis began eating grains recently. My grandfather used to buy grains from Ethiopia and didn't start growing maize and grains until the 90s but they still consumed more dairy since they didn't sell their milk ( nowdays, reer baadiye ship almost all their milk to to the city) Camel herders like many of uncles used to herd their camels far away from home. Their main source of food was camel milk along with some wild berries. If we go back 400+ years ago, the Somali diet was mainly dairy (milk, butter milk) and wild berries. Meat consumption was probably done once a month. The average geeljirre back then could get close to 80g from their diet with lots of lots of calcium, vC and so on...making them 1 of the most well nourished people in those days.

Like I said, I really cannot make big posts much anymore without the laptop which is why I haven't replied to your last post in another thread but I have no idea where you get this notion that humans don't have a carnivorous gut. We are more omnivorous than a dog or cat but make no mistake; we are not anything close to a pig or a chicken:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/cereal-20-increase-in-price-due-this-month-get-ready-for-the-increasing-stories-of-how-delightful-bugs-taste.124868/#post-3143733

And yes, pastoralists lived mainly on milk but not wild berries. I don't where you got that notion. Every book I've seen on Somali nomads in the 1800s and early 1900s lists dairy and meat as the main foods. Yes, they couldn't eat meat everyday but they did apparently have it fairly regularly and berries, honey and grain were rarities overall and the first two were obviously very seasonal.

Also, dairy is not completely nourishing. It lacks several key but not necessarily essential amino acids like creatine and taurine that humans can make their own supply of but ultimately greatly benefit from in terms of consumption as they've shown when they supplement vegetarians. It is not a complete food like meat which is why pastoralists, while healthy, tend to be more gracile than far more robust Hunter-Gatherers. Pastoralism is a nutritional downgrade from being an HG as they don't eat meat quite as regularly.

 

[Hybrid()]

Like I said, I really cannot make big posts much anymore without the laptop which is why I haven't replied to your last post in another thread but I have no idea where you get this notion that humans don't have a carnivorous gut. We are more omnivorous than a dog or cat but make no mistake; we are not anything close to a pig or a chicken:

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/cereal-20-increase-in-price-due-this-month-get-ready-for-the-increasing-stories-of-how-delightful-bugs-taste.124868/#post-3143733

And yes, pastoralists lived mainly on milk but not wild berries. I don't where you got that notion. Every book I've seen on Somali nomads in the 1800s and early 1900s lists dairy and meat as the main foods. Yes, they couldn't eat meat everyday but they did apparently have it fairly regularly and berries, honey and grain were rarities overall and the first two were obviously very seasonal.

Also, dairy is not completely nourishing. It lacks several key but not necessarily essential amino acids like creatine and taurine that humans can make their own supply of but ultimately greatly benefit from in terms of consumption as they've shown when they supplement vegetarians. It is not a complete food like meat which is why pastoralists, while healthy, tend to be more gracile than far more robust Hunter-Gatherers. Pastoralism is a nutritional downgrade from being an HG as they don't eat meat quite as regularly.

My bad, wild berries and small wild vegetables called gonle and gacayro were seasonal food for somalis.
When dairy is consumed in large amounts, it can become a complete meal although you'll still get less iron . The average Somali back then had tons of camels, cows, goats and sheep. Each person could drink 8-12 cups of milk daily and could get a comparable amount of protein per day from their diet as a HG. HG didn't hunt everyday but they had more time to rest and socialize. Herding livestocks is a pain in the ass and requires lots of energy. I used to spent 2 months in baadiye during the summer. I experienced many of the challenges geeljirre go thru on a daily basis. I even spent 2 days relocating the camels to a different region.

 

[Abdisamad]

It's a White Family that lives in the middle of nowhere on a farm, they eat raw meat and raw chicken.

Every 5 hours they eat something, they don't drink water but will wake up at 2 AM to drink a fermented milk drink.

The son eats 12 raw eggs a day. Oh and they brush their teeth with BUTTER.

They did a wife swap with a Black family that is hygienic and 'modern'.

Sounds disgusting

 

[Shimbiris]

My bad, wild berries and small wild vegetables called gonle and gacayro were seasonal food for somalis.
When dairy is consumed in large amounts, it can become a complete meal although you'll still get less iron . The average Somali back then had tons of camels, cows, goats and sheep. Each person could drink 8-12 cups of milk daily and could get a comparable amount of protein per day from their diet as a HG. HG didn't hunt everyday but they had more time to rest and socialize. Herding livestocks is a pain in the ass and requires lots of energy. I used to spent 2 months in baadiye during the summer. I experienced many of the challenges geeljirre go thru on a daily basis. I even spent 2 days relocating the camels to a different region.

That hypothesis about having to work harder is interesting and makes some sense. But it is also true that dairy is just not as full nutritionally, walaal. Not really any taurine, creatine, carnosine, carnitine and even certain vitamins I can't recall off the top of my head and not much of any iron from what I recall which is probably why our ancestors liked to mix in blood. Eating an animal, especially nose to tail, is a lot more complete and nutrient dense and surely contributes more to why HGs looked more robust. If hard work was the real issue then simply downing more milk should be the pastoralist's solution for being as perfect a specimen as an HG but it doesn't work by the looks of it.