Quran States Arabs are the Worst in Disbelief and Hypocrisy.

Qeelbax

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It states in the Quran in Surah Taubah that Arabs of the Desert are the most stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy and most prone to not know the limits of Allah (swt). In our times do you think this is true? We see how much of Munafiq Saudis/Emiratis are and they are the epitome of desert Arabs. The poor state of Yemen and the state of their land and the injustice inflicted upon them by their own desert arab kin. The khawarij that have rosen from the Nejd Desert and what UAE/KSA have done to ummah and how they have backstabbed us while smiling in our faces. Do you think this was a foreshadow?

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الْأَعْرَابُ أَشَدُّ كُفْرًا وَنِفَاقًا وَأَجْدَرُ أَلَّا يَعْلَمُوا حُدُودَ مَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ عَلَىٰ رَسُولِهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ
9 : 97 The Arabs of the desert are the most stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy and the most prone not to know the limits of (law) which Allâh has revealed to His Messenger. And Allâh is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
 

Omar del Sur

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It's talking about bedouins, it's not an invitation to be racist against Arabs and it isn't talking about Arabs in general.
 

Qeelbax

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It's talking about bedouins, it's not an invitation to be racist against Arabs and it isn't talking about Arabs in general.
I clearly wrote Desert Arabs. And when did I say this was an invitation to be racist? No need to get offended on behalf of your masters sir, this is Beyonces internet, they can’t catch you on here.
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Qeelbax

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Yes true, desert people are the worst this includes Somalis also

Ignorant and prideful
1. We aren’t arab
2. Every group is either too prideful or prideless to the point of disgusting bootyclapping
3. Somalia doesn’t have desert xataa
 

Omar del Sur

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I clearly wrote Desert Arabs. And when did I say this was an invitation to be racist? No need to get offended on behalf of your masters sir, this is Beyonces internet, they can’t catch you on here.
:damnmusic:

you wrote Desert Arabs in the post but in the title you put just Arabs as though it's an anti-Arab thing. my master is Allah, it's not my fault some people have a fanatical anti-Arab thing and are into racism.
 

Qeelbax

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you wrote Desert Arabs in the post but in the title you put just Arabs as though it's an anti-Arab thing. my master is Allah, it's not my fault some people have a fanatical anti-Arab thing and are into racism.
Desert Arabs are Arabs. Doesn’t make a difference. Majority of Arab nations are Desert countries. NA and Arabin peninsula are all bedouin nations. Only Al-Sham Arabs are left. 90 Bedouin.
:noneck:
:heh:
Also it’s funny hearing that from you. You are racist against black people and you want to mention racism of arabs when no one is being racist. You worship Arabs or Allah swt brother?
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Omar del Sur

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Desert Arabs are Arabs. Doesn’t make a difference. Majority of Arab nations are Desert countries. NA and Arabin peninsula are all bedouin nations. Only Al-Sham Arabs are left. 90 Bedouin.
:noneck:
:heh:
Also it’s funny hearing that from you. You are racist against black people and you want to mention racism of arabs when no one is being racist. You worship Arabs or Allah swt brother?
:reallymaury:

what? show me anything where I've been racist against any race. I don't push racism against anyone.
 

Omar del Sur

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Desert Arabs are Arabs. Doesn’t make a difference. Majority of Arab nations are Desert countries. NA and Arabin peninsula are all bedouin nations. Only Al-Sham Arabs are left. 90 Bedouin.

and as far as this is concerned.... I don't know what Arabs have done to you but however you feel about Arabs... tafsir is a serious thing and we can't just make stuff up when it comes to tafsir of the Quran.

9:97. The Bedouin are more stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy, and are more likely to be unaware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is AllKnowing, Most Wise.
9:98. Some of the Bedouin regard what they spend [in the cause of Allah] as a penalty, and they wait for some misfortune to befall you. May ill fortune befall them! And Allah is All-Hearing, AllKnowing.
9:99. But some of the Bedouin believe in Allah and the Last Day, and regard what they spend [in the cause of Allah] as a means of drawing closer to Him and of deserving the prayers of the Messenger. Indeed, it will be a means for them to draw closer to Him. Allah will admit them to His mercy, for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

now here is the tafsir from Sheikh As-Sadi:

"«(The Bedouin)* that is, those who dwell in the desert and the wilderness «fare more stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy)* than the city-dwellers, among whom disbelief and hypocrisy also exist."

So this is talking about bedouins who live in the desert- as opposed to city-dwellers. I don't think Arabs in general are bedouins who live in the desert. Some do, some don't. The Sheikh continues:

"That is for a number of reasons, including the following:
• Their lack of knowledge of religious teachings, righteous deeds and Islamic rulings. Hence they are more likely <to be unaware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger>, such as the fundamentals of faith and rulings on commands and prohibitions, in contrast to the city-dwellers, who are more likely to be aware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger (^||). Thus the city-dwellers - because of this knowledge - will develop proper understanding and will be more motivated to do righteous deeds of which they are more aware. None of this is available in the desert. City-dwellers have a gentle nature and willingness to follow the one who calls to good that is not found among the desert-dwellers; they sit with people of faith and mix with them more than the desert-dwellers do. Therefore they are more likely to do good than the desert-dwellers. Even though there are disbelievers and hypocrites among both the desert-dwellers and the city-dwellers, there is more harshness and roughness among the desert-dwellers than among the city-dwellers."

So this is talking about city-dwellers versus desert-dwellers. If Wikipedia is to be believed, as far as Saudi for example (and Saudi takes up a lot of Arabian peninsula obviously including Mecca and Medina)

"Until the 1960s, most of the population was nomadic or seminomadic; due to rapid economic and urban growth, more than 95% of the population is now settled. 80% of Saudis live in ten major urban centers: Riyadh, Jeddah, Mecca, Medina, Hofuf, Ta'if, Buraydah, Khobar, Yanbu, Dhahran, and Dammam.[9] Some cities and oases have densities of more than 1,000 people per square kilometer. Saudi Arabia's population is characterized by rapid growth, far more men than women, and a large cohort of youths."

another thing is according to the Sheikh- a lot of this is about the bedouins being sort of cut off and lacking knowledge. it might be less of a factor these days with modern communications. in any case, your tafsir is not a good tafsir and you shouldn't play with the tafsir of the book of Allah.

 
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Qeelbax

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and as far as this is concerned.... I don't know what Arabs have done to you but however you feel about Arabs... tafsir is a serious thing and we can't just make stuff up when it comes to tafsir of the Quran.

9:97. The Bedouin are more stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy, and are more likely to be unaware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger. And Allah is AllKnowing, Most Wise.
9:98. Some of the Bedouin regard what they spend [in the cause of Allah] as a penalty, and they wait for some misfortune to befall you. May ill fortune befall them! And Allah is All-Hearing, AllKnowing.
9:99. But some of the Bedouin believe in Allah and the Last Day, and regard what they spend [in the cause of Allah] as a means of drawing closer to Him and of deserving the prayers of the Messenger. Indeed, it will be a means for them to draw closer to Him. Allah will admit them to His mercy, for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

now here is the tafsir from Sheikh As-Sadi:

"«(The Bedouin)* that is, those who dwell in the desert and the wilderness «fare more stubborn in disbelief and hypocrisy)* than the city-dwellers, among whom disbelief and hypocrisy also exist."

So this is talking about bedouins who live in the desert- as opposed to city-dwellers. I don't think Arabs in general are bedouins who live in the desert. Some do, some don't. The Sheikh continues:

"That is for a number of reasons, including the following:
• Their lack of knowledge of religious teachings, righteous deeds and Islamic rulings. Hence they are more likely <to be unaware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger>, such as the fundamentals of faith and rulings on commands and prohibitions, in contrast to the city-dwellers, who are more likely to be aware of the limits prescribed by Allah in what He has revealed to His Messenger (^||). Thus the city-dwellers - because of this knowledge - will develop proper understanding and will be more motivated to do righteous deeds of which they are more aware. None of this is available in the desert. City-dwellers have a gentle nature and willingness to follow the one who calls to good that is not found among the desert-dwellers; they sit with people of faith and mix with them more than the desert-dwellers do. Therefore they are more likely to do good than the desert-dwellers. Even though there are disbelievers and hypocrites among both the desert-dwellers and the city-dwellers, there is more harshness and roughness among the desert-dwellers than among the city-dwellers.

So this is talking about city-dwellers versus desert-dwellers. If Wikipedia is to be believed, as far as Saudi for example (and Saudi takes up a lot of Arabian peninsula obviously including Mecca and Medina)

"Until the 1960s, most of the population was nomadic or seminomadic; due to rapid economic and urban growth, more than 95% of the population is now settled. 80% of Saudis live in ten major urban centers: Riyadh, Jeddah, Mecca, Medina, Hofuf, Ta'if, Buraydah, Khobar, Yanbu, Dhahran, and Dammam.[9] Some cities and oases have densities of more than 1,000 people per square kilometer. Saudi Arabia's population is characterized by rapid growth, far more men than women, and a large cohort of youths."

another thing is according to the Sheikh- a lot of this is about the bedouins being sort of cut off and lacking knowledge. it might be less of a factor these days with modern communications. in any case, your tafsir is not a good tafsir and you shouldn't play with the tafsir of the book of Allah.

Why you sending me all that? And what do you mean “I’m not sure what arabs did to you”? You act like I have to prosterate to Arabs
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I literally never insulted Arabs. I used the Quran quote ans mentioned the State of the Arabian Peninsula. I never said this is confirmed and said this could possibly be applied to Desert Arabs of this time. Why you so offended Mr Mexicano?
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Also you purposely left out the part of me saying it’s ironic you mention racism to wards arabs when no one is being racist in this thread but you are racist to blacks?
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Omar del Sur

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you purposely left out the part of me saying it’s ironic you mention racism to wards arabs when no one is being racist in this thread but you are racist to blacks?

yes I addressed that. Show where I push racism towards anyone. I don't push racism towards any race.
 

reer

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It's talking about bedouins, it's not an invitation to be racist against Arabs and it isn't talking about Arabs in general.
1. We aren’t arab
2. Every group is either too prideful or prideless to the point of disgusting bootyclapping
3. Somalia doesn’t have desert xataa
the ayah says "a'raab" which is the word for the bedouins of the time of the prophet alayhi salatu wasalam. somalis are like them. trying to use this ayah for racism is disgusting. and and somalis are practically a bedouin nation anyway lol.
 

Qeelbax

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the ayah says "a'raab" which is the word for the bedouins of the time of the prophet alayhi salatu wasalam. somalis are like them. trying to use this ayah for racism is disgusting. and and somalis are practically a bedouin nation anyway lol.
When did I push racism?
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When was I racist
:snoop:
The hallucinations over the mention that some Arabs doing what’s mentioned in the Quran.
:damsel:
So now if you bring up Arabs unless it’s in a positive light, you are being racist? Yaab
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It's talking about bedouins, it's not an invitation to be racist against Arabs and it isn't talking about Arabs in general.
No, Somalis aren't included. Somalis are not bedouin Arabs and there is no desert in Somalia.

Be proud to be Somali and African.
 

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