Questionable work ethic among African ethnicities. Is it a cultural thing or laziness?

Cartan Boos

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It ain’t an excuse looool niggas from Syria Iraq and Afghanistan also came here because of war and they’re outperforming us
what u on, they don't outperform us
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Cartan Boos

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Kenyans are hard workers , they were corrupted by skinnies but they are the Mexicans of Africans.
lamagoodle rule over those cucks, tiny part of neirobi where lamagoodle are majority outpeform every districts why is that, economically reer lamagoodle outperform them walaal
 

xiin-finiin

general of ciidamada sida raha ubooda
Hi, I have so many questions in regard to African immigrants in the West and I've been wondering for a long time what stems from this. I'm not going to ask anyone who could be a bias white racist who can't be taken seriously so i'm hoping anyone here can finally answer this one. I'm sure most of you know what i'm talking about.

I'll start off with what I've seen so far living here mostly observing East Africans/horners. It's a bit long rant so please bear with me.

At my work in the last 12 years, casuals in busy days come in from all sort of backgrounds and from observation when I'm tasked to supervise them, I've found all Africans ethnicities (including Somalis that talk 24/7 with no awareness, like nothing as if they have a disability) to be the most laziest and unreliable.

When they hire them, my gut instinct is always right that things are not going to get done on time. I feel deeply embarrassed because of my "skin color" being associated with them in the eyes of others that sees "black" as one. What can I say? I prefer Asians for their "no talk for 9 hours, short break" mentality for an ease of mind but I can't openly tell them to selectively choose based on names.

Working in blue collar jobs is known to be very frowned upon among every African descents in the West.

At this point, I don't think laziness is the reason. It must be that they're genetically predisposed to follow their ancestors lifestyle where they only relied on agriculture and a nomad life. It is also the same back at home where Whites, Asians and Turks are doing the lifting and operating under their own company.

What led me to believe this theory is to take a look at the first generation immigrants, East Africans started off working as taxi and truck drivers. Whereas, first generation Eastern Europeans, South Americans and Asian (including Arabs, Turks and sub continent) started off with trades, manual laboring, automotive and IT.

Then when you look at the second and third generation which is today, they're now working the same unskilled job along with Uber, security guard and other solo errand types where they work on their own.

Meanwhile, all the other second generation immigrants opened a construction, automotive, hospitality, real estate, agriculture, textile, IT industry and the list goes on in span of just 20-30 years of living in the West. Some of them come from impoverished or war torn countries so I don't want to hear any excuses.

No, I don't consider the over-saturated generic Horner restaurants and small shops in the middle of the outdated malls to be a big achievement but WTF is that?

On top of that, African descents that live in the West for 200 years haven't done anything (entertainment don't count).

I just can't wrap my head what caused this? Is it the genetics, culture or actual laziness?
I was with you for the first half. Then suddenly, xaar baad dhex fadhiisatay :drakelaugh: :deadmanny: :susp:
 

NidarNidar

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What a fucking idiot, it's a mix between nurture and nature, I'm lazy so that's the main reason why I went into IT, I work from home and sleep/upskill during down time, my first ever job was in a call centre and that woke me up, I could never work in low skill job, I was replaceable, the company I first for had half the city employed at one point, it was a revolving door of shit.
 
Yea thats the thing, somalis and most other africans came from war-torn countries, or countries where most ppl are dirt poor.
regardless of where you came from, America is about accountability, you can succeed or fail depending on your values. I value education and social responsibility, and don’t make excuses for deviant behavior. And it’s worked great alhamdulilah.
 

Qeelbax

East Africa UNUKA LEH
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It ain’t an excuse looool niggas from Syria Iraq and Afghanistan also came here because of war and they’re outperforming us
That’s not true. Syrians have been here for hundred years. The new ones from the war post-2011 aren’t doing as well.
 
my friend is Pakistani and his dad given a visa to the united states in the 80s, he was the only person in Pakistan that knew how to use a special computer program. he was hired by NASA as an engineer. most of the Asians that come to the united states are already middle class, if not upper middle class in their own countries. they have the work ethic and knowledge on the western economic model.

anyway, my friend has two masters degrees and makes $200,000/year and his life is stress free. there is no glory in overworking, and i learn from the way he does things all the time, the best thing we can do is follow the same principles Asians followed. but sadly, i see more and more Somalis falling victim to self-hate and deviant cultures.
How much does he work?
 
The first generation knew they were lucky and the ones who got educated excelled, the 2nd generation is mixed but too many have lost motivation to become something. I think people need a driving force to push them forwards, whatever that is.
 
The first generation knew they were lucky and the ones who got educated excelled, the 2nd generation is mixed but too many have lost motivation to become something. I think people need a driving force to push them forwards, whatever that is.
not being broke and begging the government for money is a great motivator.
 
I cant speak for other africans since were quite different, but when it comes to Somalis one of the best explanation is that were nomads. Meaning during drought nobody works harder than Somalis they walk for weeks, but when the camels are well feed we sit under trees read poems and just relax with no worries.

When we consider that it makes sense why Somalis in gaajo countries (Kenya, south africa , zambia, Turkey , tanzania , Uganda is all places Somalis excell in even through the west has million times more opportunities it’s not our natural habitat. So places with welfare is a big NONO for Somalis.
 
I cant speak for other africans since were quite different, but when it comes to Somalis one of the best explanation is that were nomads. Meaning during drought nobody works harder than Somalis they walk for weeks, but when the camels are well feed we sit under trees read poems and just relax with no worries.

When we consider that it makes sense why Somalis in gaajo countries (Kenya, south africa , zambia, Turkey , tanzania , Uganda is all places Somalis excell in even through the west has million times more opportunities it’s not our natural habitat. So places with welfare is a big NONO for Somalis.
Tbh Somalis in those countries I would not say are excelling. East Leigh is a slum and Somalis quality of life in those countries are not the best. From what I’ve seen maybe we are one step above the natives in those countries but we are lower than cadaans and sometimes hindis
 
Tbh Somalis in those countries I would not say are excelling. East Leigh is a slum and Somalis quality of life in those countries are not the best. From what I’ve seen maybe we are one step above the natives in those countries but we are lower than cadaans and sometimes hindis
What are you even talking about? Eastleigh is the biggest market in the whole of Kenya literally hold billions in asset and contributes atleast 30% to Nairobis tax. Theres hundreds off big Somali owned malls and the biggest shopping mall in whole of east & central africa was just built in Eastleigh with over 5000 shops in it. Then you’ve got companies like HASS petroleum who offer petroleum services and has assets worth over 300 million dollars they got the whole east africa on lock.

You’ve got somali owned airlines in Kenya run by Somalis like the Jubba airways, skyward express airline, 784 air service company , bluebird aviation
(second biggest airline in kenya worth 100S of million dollars and in UAE you got Daalo airlines. The richest business women in Uganda is a somali women. You’ve got a big market in kampala dominated by Somalis, you’ve got the gold market in Dubai dominated by Somalis and when it comes to Kenyan’s politics the defence minister , national intelligence are both Somalis. In south africa they run alot of shops. Truth be told those Somalis in africa are a force to be reckoned with.

Comparing refuges who climbed the hierachy and built a strong independent community in african countries too the cadaans and indians/chinese who get supported by their govs financially is extremly dumb. There is no other african group who is doing moves like Somalis in Africa.
 
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What are you even talking about? Eastleigh is the biggest market in the whole of Kenya literally hold billions in asset and contributes atleast 30% to Nairobis tax. Theres hundreds off big Somali owned malls and the biggest shopping mall in whole of east & central africa was just built in Eastleigh with over 5000 shops in it. Then you’ve got companies like HASS petroleum who offer petroleum services and has assets worth over 300 million dollars they got the whole east africa on lock.

You’ve got somali owned airlines in Kenya run by Somalis like the Jubba airways and in UAE you got Daalo airlines. The richest business women in Uganda is a somali women. You’ve got a big market in kampala dominated by Somalis, you’ve got the gold market in Dubai dominated by Somalis and when it comes to Kenyan’s politics the defence minister , national intelligence are both Somalis. In south africa they run alot of shops. Truth be told those Somalis in africa are a force to be reckoned with.

Comparing refuges who climbed the hierachy and built a strong independent community in african countries too the cadaans and indians/chinese who get supported by their govs financially is extremly dumb. There is no other african group who is doing moves like Somalis in Africa.
Sxb I know we have tons of business all around east and South Africa as well as Middle East. My point is the living conditions. Have you seen the housing Somalis live in at Kenya or South Africa? You would expect with all of these businesses Somalis would be living in villas. Maybe cadaans are not comparable but Lebanese we’re qaxoti and had zero support from their government yet tons of them all over west Africa are wealthy living in mansions and owning most of those countries economies.
 
Sxb I know we have tons of business all around east and South Africa as well as Middle East. My point is the living conditions. Have you seen the housing Somalis live in at Kenya or South Africa? You would expect with all of these businesses Somalis would be living in villas. Maybe cadaans are not comparable but Lebanese we’re qaxoti and had zero support from their government yet tons of them all over west Africa are wealthy living in mansions and owning most of those countries economies.
Many Somalis are in villas in kenya, even Sheikh Umul is a millionaire rn building a gated somali estate a lil outside Nairobi. You never been to parklands? South C ? downtown? lol. Most Somalis in south africa are geeljires who make money reinvest into kenya/Somalia. Lebanese are not qaxootis bro this what you fail to understand. Their civil war ended 1990, they sent a fraction of their very best & richest. Were in war until today. Lascanood, barawe , garowe rn and al shabab. The people who leave Somalia can only be compared to Syrians or afghans that’s about it and were way more succesful than them in Turkey, UAE , Saudi, africa.
 
Many Somalis are in villas in kenya, even Sheikh Umul is a millionaire rn building a gated somali estate a lil outside Nairobi. You never been to parklands? South C ? downtown? lol. Most Somalis in south africa are geeljires who make money reinvest into kenya/Somalia. Lebanese are not qaxootis bro this what you fail to understand. Their civil war ended 1990, they sent a fraction of their very best & richest. Were in war until today. Lascanood, barawe , garowe rn and al shabab. The people who leave Somalia can only be compared to Syrians or afghans that’s about it and were way more succesful than them in Turkey, UAE , Saudi, africa.
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