Question for diasporas

[Dibleyy]

Y’all keep talking about stupid gender war interracial useless discussions but it has brought me to a really serious question.

What’s the end game? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this country and what the future would be like if I had kids and grandchildren who are full Somali.

And I can’t imagine living here and raising a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation here in this country, wasn’t this supposed to be a temporary thing? Are Somalis ever going to leave?

When I think about Somalia, there’s so much potential but the people hate each other and cannot leave fully in peace and law, it would be hard to relocate to Somalia currently especially since I have no family there to guide me and don’t know much about the life there but I don’t want to raise my lineage here.

A lot of you men keep talking about ‘blm halimo’ and keeping your dhaqan. It’s feasible when your 1st or 2nd generation but after that what? There’s a 95% possibility that at some point either your children or grandchildren will not choose to marry Somali, so what will happen to us as a people?

 

[Basra]

 

[El Nino]

We can create self-sufficient communities with our own schools and social spaces. Also fund the progress back home, the chinese did this. Somalis will mix with others but there will be people who are 100% somali living in the west.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

In addition to what @El Nino

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/first-cultural-center-for-nigerian-diaspora-in-u-s-opens-in-washington-d-c.136205/#post-3382549

At one point our parents generation genuinely thought they’d all go back home in the mid 2000s. We have to make national congresses, lobbying groups and centres that advocate for our best interests in the diaspora.

 

[Khanderson]

We can create self-sufficient communities with our own schools and social spaces. Also fund the progress back home, the chinese did this. Somalis will mix with others but there will be people who are 100% somali living in the west.

Somalis that lives in Minnesota have already created a community but still need a leader or a representative for their community.

 

[El Nino]

In addition to what @El Nino

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/first-cultural-center-for-nigerian-diaspora-in-u-s-opens-in-washington-d-c.136205/#post-3382549

At one point our parents generation genuinely thought they’d all go back home in the mid 2000s. We have to make national congresses, lobbying groups and centres that advocate for our best interests in the diaspora.

Absolutely, the diaspora is here to stay until Somalia is economically good enough to live in. We need to come together and be cohesive. A charismatic and neutral leader is needed for us.

Somalis that lives in Minnesota have already created a community but still need a leader or a representative for their community.

What they have done over there is admirable, it should be replicated all over the diaspora. Having our own schools is vital, kids spent most of their lives at school.

 

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[Darood]

World events will eventually force us to contend with the situation back home.

 

[Dibleyy]

World events will eventually force us to contend with the situation back home.

It’s such a conflict of interest to be living here and supporting their economy and paying taxes while they use those funds to actively destabilize our country.

This place will never feel like my true home, I feel like a guest. idk how long I can stay here……

 

[niggaibnh]

Y’all keep talking about stupid gender war interracial useless discussions but it has brought me to a really serious question.

What’s the end game? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this country and what the future would be like if I had kids and grandchildren who are full Somali.

And I can’t imagine living here and raising a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation here in this country, wasn’t this supposed to be a temporary thing? Are Somalis ever going to leave?

When I think about Somalia, there’s so much potential but the people hate each other and cannot leave fully in peace and law, it would be hard to relocate to Somalia currently especially since I have no family there to guide me and don’t know much about the life there but I don’t want to raise my lineage here.

A lot of you men keep talking about ‘blm halimo’ and keeping your dhaqan. It’s feasible when your 1st or 2nd generation but after that what? There’s a 95% possibility that at some point either your children or grandchildren will not choose to marry Somali, so what will happen to us as a people?

Don’t worry my children gonna marry xalimos and I will my children do the same for my grandchildren

Once I have 12 children I’m gonna call them the children of hawiye and they’re gonna increase overtime

My and their goal is to restore Somalia and make it great again so similar story to yaqub (As) but once they the knowledge in the west go back to Somalia help out

 

[niggaibnh]

Aside from joking around
I’m worried for Somalis in the west tbh
People around can’t even speak straight forward Somalis but one thing is that they understand fully. Somalis mixes is also going to rise
At least they should keep Islam with them

 

[Darood]

It’s such a conflict of interest to be living here and supporting their economy and paying taxes while they use those funds to actively destabilize our country.

This place will never feel like my true home, I feel like a guest. idk how long I can stay here……

I know what you mean. Many of the diaspora have already moved back or travel back and forth between Africa and Europe. It will take determination, imagination, optimism and sheer hard work to re-build. I have no doubt it can be done.

 

[Abdisamad]

I have accepted my faith..

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[NordicSomali]

Y’all keep talking about stupid gender war interracial useless discussions but it has brought me to a really serious question.

What’s the end game? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this country and what the future would be like if I had kids and grandchildren who are full Somali.

And I can’t imagine living here and raising a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation here in this country, wasn’t this supposed to be a temporary thing? Are Somalis ever going to leave?

When I think about Somalia, there’s so much potential but the people hate each other and cannot leave fully in peace and law, it would be hard to relocate to Somalia currently especially since I have no family there to guide me and don’t know much about the life there but I don’t want to raise my lineage here.

A lot of you men keep talking about ‘blm halimo’ and keeping your dhaqan. It’s feasible when your 1st or 2nd generation but after that what? There’s a 95% possibility that at some point either your children or grandchildren will not choose to marry Somali, so what will happen to us as a people?

Why can’t worry about your grandchildren, that’s too far into the future, keeping your dhaqan is your own business

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

It's been over 30 years and virtually anyone who does go comes back after a year tops. I usually find it's the 18-25 noolasha ka dhacay western haters who go for a while and then become disillusioned and return and then stop hating the west. I don't even know anybody over 60 who moved back to Somalia full time except to avoid the winters and they only go for December, January and February now. They used to do 6 months but have now shortened it. They are the tiny minority. Older Somalis don't even go except for vacations. As much as I would love to see you all return, no one is going returning. You have to accept it just like I accepted it. If you and your parents are not going back, your kids are definently not going to.

Somalis dreamed of going back to Somalia even before 91. My uncle told me him and his friends were excited when Barre was losing so they could return to Somalia. Hehe.

 

[NinWero]

Y’all keep talking about stupid gender war interracial useless discussions but it has brought me to a really serious question.

What’s the end game? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this country and what the future would be like if I had kids and grandchildren who are full Somali.

And I can’t imagine living here and raising a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation here in this country, wasn’t this supposed to be a temporary thing? Are Somalis ever going to leave?

When I think about Somalia, there’s so much potential but the people hate each other and cannot leave fully in peace and law, it would be hard to relocate to Somalia currently especially since I have no family there to guide me and don’t know much about the life there but I don’t want to raise my lineage here.

A lot of you men keep talking about ‘blm halimo’ and keeping your dhaqan. It’s feasible when your 1st or 2nd generation but after that what? There’s a 95% possibility that at some point either your children or grandchildren will not choose to marry Somali, so what will happen to us as a people?

The end game is to prepare yourself to move to a place where you can control what your kids learn, watch and partake in.

At the moment that place is looking like Africa. I believe in the next 5-10 years as Somalia becomes more stable, a lot of families in the west will eventually move back to save themselves and their kids.

As we are seeing now in the UK, kids as young as 5 years old are being thought about the LGBT agenda, do you really want your kids learn that crap.

 

[Ahmed123-]

You guys need to accept reality if you have children in the West; your grandchildren or great-grandchildren will most likely be gaals who know nothing about Somalia or are dhaqan and will probably be absorbed into the black community. I mean, some of the Somali kids born in the west with two full Somali parents can't even speak Somali Your grandkids don't have a chance in hell, which is why I plan on having my kids in Nairobi.

 

[Kalsoon]

Y’all keep talking about stupid gender war interracial useless discussions but it has brought me to a really serious question.

What’s the end game? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about this country and what the future would be like if I had kids and grandchildren who are full Somali.

And I can’t imagine living here and raising a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation here in this country, wasn’t this supposed to be a temporary thing? Are Somalis ever going to leave?

When I think about Somalia, there’s so much potential but the people hate each other and cannot leave fully in peace and law, it would be hard to relocate to Somalia currently especially since I have no family there to guide me and don’t know much about the life there but I don’t want to raise my lineage here.

A lot of you men keep talking about ‘blm halimo’ and keeping your dhaqan. It’s feasible when your 1st or 2nd generation but after that what? There’s a 95% possibility that at some point either your children or grandchildren will not choose to marry Somali, so what will happen to us as a people?

It’s more profitable for the nations that most Somalis are residing in for them to continue living there. Many Somalis have gotten accustomed to their “comfortable” lives too.

It takes a wise and responsible person to think about their lineage and how their decisions now will affect them down the line. It’s not something many think about until it’s too late.

There’s too much fitnah everywhere but especially the west so it gets increasingly harder to live life as a Muslim.

 

[rep]

I think some western countries in scandinavia especially have an excellent possibility of creating huge somali enclaves so we should be fine as long as you keep your future generation in one of those places .