Question About Qadar (Fate)

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Allah (swt) is all knowing. It is said that our whole lives (what we shall be named, our gender, how we shall die, our rizaq, etc) is all pre planned by Allah while we are still in our mother's womb. Allah knows whether or not if we shall go to heaven or hell. He is all-knowing, meaning that he knows what the outcomes of all of his creations shall be.

If our outcomes and fate is already set in stone, why is living on Earth considered a test? How is it a test if God has already destined for us what our actions and choices will be?
 
In this life, we still have the choice to do things, and Allah already knows what that final choice is. We make our own decisions and actions, not Allah. So technically, it's still a test despite the fact that the Qadar is pre-established.
 
Allah (swt) is all knowing. It is said that our whole lives (what we shall be named, our gender, how we shall die, our rizaq, etc) is all pre planned by Allah while we are still in our mother's womb. Allah knows whether or not if we shall go to heaven or hell. He is all-knowing, meaning that he knows what the outcomes of all of his creations shall be.

If our outcomes and fate is already set in stone, why is living on Earth considered a test? How is it a test if God has already destined for us what our actions and choices will be?
Because it's only Allah that knows what will be the outcome.
You have been given free will.
Whoever is destined to be in paradise Alla will make it easy for them to act and behave like someone destined to be in paradise.(May Allah makes us among those he destined to be in jannah Amin.)
Those destined to go to hell will be easened for them to be behaving and acting on deeds that will take them to hell.(May Allah give us immunity from hell fire. Amin.)
Also there are people that will do good deeds and left with a short span in life and they will start changing and do acts that will lead them to hell fire and Vise versa.

To Allah he knows everything.Allah does what he wants and no one has the power or ability to ask him why.


The bottom line is we dont know what will happen tomorrow and we have free will.To chose no one has a gun on our heads.

The importance of qadar is to know that whatever good or bad that befell you it was meant to be.So if a calamity happens dont waste your time on If I did this the result would have been this.....No move on as it was meant to happen regardless of all the scenarios you thought you would have done to avert it. It gives you peace of mind and heals broken hearts knowing well that this world is a test and the hear after is the real abode we should strive for.

Also is if you got some good fortune then dont think it came from your hard work but blessing of Allah all you need to is to thank Allah the provider of sustainance.

Also about qadar is if Allah was knoy all knowing or Planner how would you know that your acts of worship will be rewarded?
Allah gave us guarantee that our deeds will be rewarded and that we will not die in vain.So all this is predestination.

Allah has set everything in place so that the world will come to an end one day on a date chosen by Allah and will happen definitely without it being delayed or postponed.
 
Allah knows everything but he gives you the choice to choose right from wrong. Everything written in the preserved Tablet is Allah's knowledge but that doesn't mean you don't have a choice. Let me give you an example, suppose there's a student by the name of John, he doesn't study, he parties and doesn't do his work. He's going for an exam, before the exam starts, the teacher can predict that this student is going to fail. If John fails the exam, can he blame the teacher for predicting his failure? He should only blame himself. The teacher knew he was going to fail but that doesn't mean he didn't have the choice to study. Likewise, Allah is all knowing, he knows everything that happened and is going to happen, he gave you a choice to obey him or disobey him, don't blame Allah for your choices.

"There shall be no compulsion in (accepting) the Religion, indeed the right path has been made clear from the wrong path." (Surah 2:256)

Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful." (Surah 39:53)
 

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Allah knows everything but he gives you the choice to choose right from wrong. Everything written in the preserved Tablet is Allah's knowledge but that doesn't mean you don't have a choice. Let me give you an example, suppose there's a student by the name of John, he doesn't study, he parties and doesn't do his work. He's going for an exam, before the exam starts, the teacher can predict that this student is going to fail. If John fails the exam, can he blame the teacher for predicting his failure? He should only blame himself. The teacher knew he was going to fail but that doesn't mean he didn't have the choice to study. Likewise, Allah is all knowing, he knows everything that happened and is going to happen, he gave you a choice to obey him or disobey him, don't blame Allah for your choices.

"There shall be no compulsion in (accepting) the Religion, indeed the right path has been made clear from the wrong path." (Surah 2:256)

Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful." (Surah 39:53)


Yes, but God is all knowing. He doesn't make predictions, he destines. If God has already written down for me that I shall disobey Him x numbers of times, does my "free will" give me the power to change that and my fate?
 
Yes, but God is all knowing. He doesn't make predictions, he destines. If God has already written down for me that I shall disobey Him x numbers of times, does my "free will" give me the power to change that and my fate?
What's your plan prison break or what?
Do you see Allah right now dictating to you telling you to get up and do this or that?
You are doing things out of your own initiative and plan.Allah did not send you a schedule or tasks to do from.down to dusk you plan it yourself.

The moral of the story is the bottom line is you have no power and Allah does what he wants.

All you need to do is ask Allah for guidance against hellfire and not dwell much on qadar.Use it to uplift your life not to become philosophical about the subject.
 
Yes, but God is all knowing. He doesn't make predictions, he destines. If God has already written down for me that I shall disobey Him x numbers of times, does my "free will" give me the power to change that and my fate?
Allah knowing something has literally no effect on your choices. Allah exists outside of time so whatever is written is what he has seen in his infinite knowledge. But us not knowing the future makes it a test
 
Allah (swt) is all knowing. It is said that our whole lives (what we shall be named, our gender, how we shall die, our rizaq, etc) is all pre planned by Allah while we are still in our mother's womb. Allah knows whether or not if we shall go to heaven or hell. He is all-knowing, meaning that he knows what the outcomes of all of his creations shall be.

If our outcomes and fate is already set in stone, why is living on Earth considered a test? How is it a test if God has already destined for us what our actions and choices will be?
Fate and free will can actually co-exist.
 
Yes, but God is all knowing. He doesn't make predictions, he destines. If God has already written down for me that I shall disobey Him x numbers of times, does my "free will" give me the power to change that and my fate?
What Allah wrote down was his knowledge, you have the choice to obey him or disobey him. I gave you an example of the teacher who knew the student was going to fail and the prediction came to pass, that doesn't mean the teacher is to blame for knowing what was going to happen. Allah is all knowing and All just, he will never wrong his creation. Everything you do is your choice, you can't blame anyone.

"O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women. And fear Allah, through whom you ask one another, and the wombs. Indeed Allah is ever, over you, an Observer." (Surah 4:1)
 

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What's your plan prison break or what?
Do you see Allah right now dictating to you telling you to get up and do this or that?
You are doing things out of your own initiative and plan.Allah did not send you a schedule or tasks to do from.down to dusk you plan it yourself.

The moral of the story is the bottom line is you have no power and Allah does what he wants.

All you need to do is ask Allah for guidance against hellfire and not dwell much on qadar.Use it to uplift your life not to become philosophical about the subject.

Lol, I don't sit and ponder about qadar, day and night. But it is a question that pops up in the back of my mind every once in awhile. Perhaps some things are beyond our comprehension and are better left unquestioned.
 
Lol, I don't sit and ponder about qadar, day and night. But it is a question that pops up in the back of my mind every once in awhile. Perhaps some things are beyond our comprehension and are better left unquestioned.
Use it to uplift your life.
Because you dont dwell on the past and say if only you did this.....thinking your outcome would have changed but rather say it was all planned and move on.

Because this life is a test and qadar makes you gain patience.and momentum in life.
Like if you got corona virus because you went to a shop and was infected there.
Would you dwell on if only I never went to that shop scenario?
 

Karim

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@Ayatiin We as Muslims believe that the divine destiny is what God wrote down in the Preserved tablet all that has happened and will happen, which will come to pass as written. However, this should not be considered within the limitations of time as human beings understand. In the Quran, God explicitly states that He will "write" the good for those who do righteous deeds.

According to this belief, a person's action is not caused by what is written in the Preserved Tablet but, rather, the action is written in the Preserved Tablet because God already knows all occurrences without the restrictions of time. Note: God is not restricted by time.

An individual has power to choose, but since God created time and space he knows what will happen. God is without any bond of time and space. Therefore, what will happen has meaning only to humans, who are limited in time and space. An analogy is someone who watches a movie for the second time, who knows what will happen next, while for the first time watcher the next move is unknown.

According to Maturidi belief, all active possibilities are created by God and humans act in accordance with their free intention to choose which action they follow. In this way, the intention precedes the created action and capacity by which actions are acquired.
 

Shmurda

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Allah knows what you'll do before you do it. It's like watching a movie you've already seen. You know what will happen but that doesn't mean you're controlling the outcome
 
Allah (swt) is all knowing. It is said that our whole lives (what we shall be named, our gender, how we shall die, our rizaq, etc) is all pre planned by Allah while we are still in our mother's womb. Allah knows whether or not if we shall go to heaven or hell. He is all-knowing, meaning that he knows what the outcomes of all of his creations shall be.

If our outcomes and fate is already set in stone, why is living on Earth considered a test? How is it a test if God has already destined for us what our actions and choices will be?
one my old macalins explained it that qadr is like a teacher that knows how a student is likely to perform on a test, but he/she tests them anyway.
 

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