Qabiil is a cancer that will never leave us

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Lol "I should read what I wrote before I post"? You should read in general start off with basic grammar and sentence structure before trying to come off as intelligent

That's not how you measure intelligence , typing on a phone is not the same as computers as long as you get the point across.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Qabiil is not bad and it is being used as scapegoat by useless people . Darood weaponized Qabiil so if anyone needs to drop qabiil it's the people who used it the wrong way. The rest of us look at it as lineage / heritage and cherish it.

You are ignoring what brought Somalia to it's knees and that's Darood qabiilism weaponized against Isaaq and Hawiye, even your fellow Darood the MJ. You dont get to cause the problem and then take the blame off yourself and shift it on everyone collectively. Let's call a spade , a spade. It wasn't isaaq or Hawiye that destroyed democracy in Somalia and it wasn't isaaq or Hawiye that created inter qabiil alliances to discriminate against everyone else.

Your "president" in a tribal war

 

[sanger]

@MadNomad I stand with you on this even you are bit of a nacas sometimes. Keep exposing their munaafiqnimo.

 

[bluebird]

The enemies of somali people and islam have forever been sowing seeds of discord into the hearts of somalis from instigating fights to using news to convince somalis that other clans cannot be trusted. so they can annex more land de facto

who do you know who genuinely cares about qabil? Its always only been a social safety net but we marry and make friends with other qabils and see them no different to ourselves, because they aren't

The anger on somali forums is just toxicity from back and forth insults and it clouds the mind temporarily, but is it a real issue, i dont think so

And the people in somalia well they r no different to anyone else on the planet they look out for their own well being. They don't choose qabilism over unity because of their undying love for their clans but because its what has (in their minds) benefited them if even a little. None of you would jump off your tiny raft onto a sinking ship hoping it would float up would you?

So instead of demonizing tribal networks that aren't going anywhere, why not try to think of solutions to help somali people trust one another again?

 

[bluebird]

And the somali government panders to these people because they are instructed to. Its another way to keep the country in chaos and injustice and bring humiliation to the nation by emasculating its leaders. By placing puppets in place only to strip them of any power. Its a joke. Instead of hating on fellow somalis and falling into their traps instead ignore their propaganda and love your people and think well of them

 

[DR OSMAN]

This why democracy is impossible in Somalia. Democracy requires u to think as an individual not a tribe or group. Somalis think as groups yet want to implement a system that thinks as individuals and then wonder halkay iska gaban la'dahay nidaamkan!!! The sooner u realize that u ride as a group and die as group, you will be in the vicious circle of wondering why the system is so fucked

 

[gurey]

I said the move was dangerous and could lead to a civil war when it first happened. I was accused of wanting another civil war. Point is the gov is not influential or powerful enough play like that. Anyways nothing but a dictatorship will work in Somalia.

 

[gurey]

This why democracy is impossible in Somalia. Democracy requires u to think as an individual not a tribe or group. Somalis think as groups yet want to implement a system that thinks as individuals and then wonder halkay iska gaban la'dahay nidaamkan!!! The sooner u realize that u ride as a group and die as group, you will be in the vicious circle of wondering why the system is so fucked

But the so called beesha calamka want democracy implemented in Somalia. As we know that means elections in airport hangers and a gov who's influence doesnt extend a mile outside the government hq, amison rape army who's job is to make sure the gov never refuse orders from the west and a population that live on less than a dollar a day also fed dog food (food aid). then you have turkey who has bought everything worth buying on the cheap and created 1000's of employment for their own people whilst they show us pictures of their charities giving starving children bread. Dictatorship is needed sxb anyting else waa wakhtii doomis

 

[ILBIR]

While I don't agree with siding with him due to clans MJ's have no reason to talk since they support the killer and traitor C/Yusuf may he burn in hell who brought Ethiopian Troops into Somalia, even letting them step foot inside Mogadishu where before they had never dare set their foot. I would gladly go against this criminal and traitor to Somalia but when you MJ's support your criminals what do you expect hawiye and isaaq to do? Also federalism a cancer to Somalia was introduced into the country because of u.

 

[ILBIR]

C/Yusuf, C/Lahi !Mahamed aka Farmajo, etc.. how are these people related? They are qabilste who want to payback for what happen in 1991. Farmajo was just a history major and this is why somalia is the way it is we don't make the doctors, engineers, chemists, inventors, businessmen, etc... our leaders instead we make these idiots our leaders. An engineer has no time to be a qabilste he is too intelligent but a history major has all the time for he isn't doing anything simulating.

 

[DR OSMAN]

But the so called beesha calamka want democracy implemented in Somalia. As we know that means elections in airport hangers and a gov who's influence doesnt extend a mile outside the government hq, amison rape army who's job is to make sure the gov never refuse orders from the west and a population that live on less than a dollar a day also fed dog food (food aid). then you have turkey who has bought everything worth buying on the cheap and created 1000's of employment for their own people whilst they show us pictures of their charities giving starving children bread. Dictatorship is needed sxb anyting else waa wakhtii doomis

Dictatorship only has two problems. 1. U need money. 2. U need actually full control of the land and people. 3. You need a-lot of weapons. Which person in Somalia can do that today? wishful thinking is not answer either sxb. Besides even if they had a dictator, the second the arms supply or money ran out or was cut by whoever is supplying you, you would be finished and over-run by opposition again. I don't support dictatorships for that sole reason.

Siyad was going strong till all his friends abadoned him and his arms were depleted and opposition were armed up. We forget it was libya who first started this war in somalia not ethiopia. SSDF went to libya first!!! I am happy they are in their situation today, inkaarki ay naga galeen ba hada ku dhacay!!! If we never went to libya and formed SSDF, none of these other copy-cat groups would've ever formed.

Hence I never blame hawiye n isaaq for the civil war, I blame my own clan. It is on their shoulder now to fix it as it was caused by us initially. But obviously hawiye n isaaq are so gone into their vicious tribalness they just sit there and blame MJ for everything or Darod and after 50 years they will still be sitting in that same xaar blaming and MJ is like war waxani nacasana, xaarku fadhiyo uma jeedo and he still wanna point blame, pointing blame wont solve shit we will still remain in xaarka. Lets only talk about getting the xaar of us first and then afterwards point fingers

 

[DR OSMAN]

Xaar baanu fadhina iyo welina waan isla fican nahay oo waxan ku dhex jirna hebel ba qaldan iyo hebel kale. Sheekadan ma 50 sano kale aan ku jirayna. That's why I say I will sit down and speak with people of reason and intelligence, lakin to the qabyalad folks, hadee meeshay nagu tagto aan aragno im qabyalad ready also and can wrestle on that front, the only difference is, I know where it will lead too and know deep down it won't solve shit other then fadhi ku dirir but I can play that game also and will play that game hadanu meeshu caqli ka jeedin.

That's why I never say I am not tribalist, I only say I am a man of reason and intelligence. If I meet someone who wants to talk on that level, I will talk on that level. Lakin hadan arko mid xun oo qabyalad ku jiro, be prepared for this cusman maxamud venom, it's far more vicious then anything your ass will ever say. You can't go beyond the maydkina arka, i will go all the way to your father and show u how slave you were.

Anigu meeshay doonta waan la aada bashasha, if i met a tribalist i will go tribal and kick his ass on that front. If it goes intellectual, i will sit and exchange and decide on reason and intellect not emotions. Lakin if I met a killer, I will have my ak 47 prepared. Anigu layma yaqano, people assume to much with me and think im multiple personality but I am not. I simply adapt to the situation I am in and play ball.

 

[DR OSMAN]

If it's qabyalad, I will prepare darod strategically. I will create a road going from galdogob to ogadeniya so ogadens have access to come to Puntland and defend darod interests against the hawiye. I will work out how to get jubaland from doolow to a puntland region road via ethiopia. I will sit with ethiopia and cut interests tie and say if u give me those two roads to my clan strong hold, I am prepared to defend your interests in somalia. U dont know who I am sxb, but pray this cusman maxamud isnt elected as puntland president, cuz i assess the playing field first and begin tactics. But if I see nin nadiif ah oo caqli ku hadlayo, I will play ball in that circle and be genuine in return.

This is a secular mujahid. I am not spiritually attached to people sxb, I know all the prayers i do, all the charity i do, all the doings and acts are just ways for me to bribe allah. I simply surrender to allah and say I know i cant find u cause your infinite and im limited, i will stay put and not be arrogant and let u find me. I settled my issues with god. U think inan human being uu naxarisanayo? I will deal with them at a physical, mental, emotional level but spiritually im with god but with u guys i play in those three spheres, meeshay tagtana i will plan to make sure i prepare to win, i play for keeps

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Ditoore, somali politics will drive you insane

 

[ILBIR]

DR. Osman you are a very eloquent man and I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not qabilste I support a new Somalia one rid of the cancer known as Federalism and the other cancer Democracy which might work for rich white countries but will not work for a poor African country.

 

[ILBIR]

Xaar baanu fadhina iyo welina waan isla fican nahay oo waxan ku dhex jirna hebel ba qaldan iyo hebel kale. Sheekadan ma 50 sano kale aan ku jirayna. That's why I say I will sit down and speak with people of reason and intelligence, lakin to the qabyalad folks, hadee meeshay nagu tagto aan aragno im qabyalad ready also and can wrestle on that front, the only difference is, I know where it will lead too and know deep down it won't solve shit other then fadhi ku dirir but I can play that game also and will play that game hadanu meeshu caqli ka jeedin.

That's why I never say I am not tribalist, I only say I am a man of reason and intelligence. If I meet someone who wants to talk on that level, I will talk on that level. Lakin hadan arko mid xun oo qabyalad ku jiro, be prepared for this cusman maxamud venom, it's far more vicious then anything your ass will ever say. You can't go beyond the maydkina arka, i will go all the way to your father and show u how slave you were.

Anigu meeshay doonta waan la aada bashasha, if i met a tribalist i will go tribal and kick his ass on that front. If it goes intellectual, i will sit and exchange and decide on reason and intellect not emotions. Lakin if I met a killer, I will have my ak 47 prepared. Anigu layma yaqano, people assume to much with me and think im multiple personality but I am not. I simply adapt to the situation I am in and play ball.

Lol a man must not be emotional qabyalad is for emotional people and we the Somali people need to work with each other and ignore these tribalists until we can eliminate them one by one.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ditoore, somali politics will drive you insane

Sxb most of their tribal arguments are pretty cheesy. Hawiye be like hamar is largest city so we must get more, but your only located 700 kilometers in space, no matter how large one city is, your surrounded by dead tuulos. Where-as PL has large cities and still heaps of damn tuulos as u go across the same 700 km distance. Forget isaaq arguments, Eastern Somaliland they only have like burco-half erigavo-el-afwayn, the rest is basically darod 80%. Then their left with hargeisa n awdal and we are still left with bosaso-galkayo-garowe and so many other districts of reasonable district sizes. Then they come along and say harti n isaaq are the same size cuz of parliamentary distribution in somalia, no sxb that was 'xal' ee 'xaq' ma ahayn. U r nowhere near harti size as all dir waqoyi hadi xaqiiq laga hadlayo. MJ and Dir Waqoyi possible, but harti and dir waqoyi you smoking some wild hash.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Lol a man must not be emotional qabyalad is for emotional people and we the Somali people need to work with each other and ignore these tribalists until we can eliminate them one by one.

But I have emotions. I utilize everything allah gave me, mental, emotional, physical. The only thing I leave behind is spiritual, I totally surrender there and dont ever assume I can figure out god with my limited brain and if I do I will end up just with a part answer. I prefer to surrender and say I will sit down here and wait till god rescues me because that's the only hope in this spiritual maze.

But when it comes to other elements of my physical nature, I will utilize every component, the only difference really is where I use each. If im with tribalist i will use emotions like they are after-all that's all they have but if im with a smart person I will speak at that level also with them and drop the emotions. I have clear divides in my body sxb. I don't believe in good and bad in the spiritual sense, I don't believe that my actions on this earth will get me anywhere near to allah, it's more trying to think u have the answer through yourself and all u really need with allah is just surrender forget it all good, bad, emotions, brains everything u have wont work with allah just drop it and sit in a room and say I have submitted to you but to these asshole bin-adans I will do whatever I have to achieve my goals for they are only physical I know how to divide myself well. I only now working on faith aspects and hence why i respect the prophets, it takes alot of faith to teach what they did with the opposition they faced, Cud i do the same thing in saudi arabia with my teaching not yet no. I am still not hardened faith wise and where my huge explorations will begin thru travel. But I hope when I get to be an old man I will be one those old wise men who has developed the strengthened faith to speak up and bring change to islam.

But right now Im focused on strenghtening myself mentally motivation, effort, dropping fear and those aspects and emotionally also. I am leaving the big faith strenghtening part for later in my life when I do a big ibn batuta style travel. But till then I am playing and im going to strengthen all what allah gave me to survive and do whatever i please with and not mixing the physical and spiritual and having a clear divide, that's where people get lost. They have physical and emotional urges and then spiritual good and bad. The good n bad is just the physical thats where the laws are, play around it but spiritual is just surrender allah is easy, we make it hard cause we want to do everything.

If I give someone for example money i will say i gave this to u because I wanted to, I didnt give this to u because of allah as if i am so arrogant to think i can deal with allah thru deeds and actions of my life. It's like saying you will deal with allah by praying and charity and doing good things, your trying to do this yourself again when all u need to do is submit. Thru those deeds u will also fall short, u will never be complete but thru surrender u never fall short, u sit there and say I surrender u allah i have nothing that i can give, rescue me in the day of judgement for I wasn't arrogant and thought i could earn my way to you and then live your life with full pleasure knowing allah is simple, we make it difficult cuz we think we can do everything ourselves.

So when I die I will look back at my life and say allah i did everything I wanted, did I have regets yes but it was part of the experience but to u I surrender I have nothing to offer you. Everything I did in my life was for me and my physical sense it had nothing to do with u. Ur humble servant in submission. While the salafi clown will sit there and i did this and did that and had beard and prayed 5 times, allah will look at those fools and say what can u give me that i dont have, u have nothing to offer me banish to HELL for thats where people who are to arrogant to accept you wont ever be able to do anything for me you think u can handle me by your actions and deeds.

 

[BestCaseScenario]

Ditoore, somali politics will drive you insane

Saxib, having read the doctor's comments I could not stop laughing till I choked on my saliva.

too funny.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Those who have truly surrendered to allah are at peace cuz u know all ur efforts are pointless the only thing u have is surrender. The rests are chasing their tail basically and it's going nowhere and may god have mercy on them. Spiritual Islam will win hands down over your stupid physical acts. Your physical acts stay on this earth, your spirit goes to god. If your spirit is full of actions and deeds and no true submission, its fruitless your trying to earn your way to god and u will fall short. My deeds and actions are physical, my spirit is clean cuz its in total submission i figured out i cant do anything from myself for god good or bad. Now my physical aspect which is temporary is just going to be discarded in the end good or evil which is pointless.

I tried it all sxb, charity, being good, following prayers and all the deeds. Then tried using my brain and it kept heading into more loops and no ends and still felt empty inside cause there was no submission. Now there is submission everything else u realize is nothing. The shaydhan is pure arrogance and was misguiding me thinking i could do all these deeds and feel good, he wanted me to be arrogant like him and not surrendering myself and trying to bribe god thru my actions. Damn shaydhan lacnatallah alaykh.