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Ngl i wanna take part in one of these not for bidah reasons but it looks fun.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Ngl i wanna take part in one of these not for bidah reasons but it looks fun.

Before I was Muslim, I already did not want to dance and I had no interest in dancing. Now alhamdulilaah I can cite religious justification for what was already my natural innate inclination. Men are not missing out at all by not doing the sort of silliness those dancing sufis are doing.

 

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Before I was Muslim, I already did not want to dance and I had no interest in dancing. Now alhamdulilaah I can cite religious justification for what was already my natural innate inclination. Men are not missing out at all by not doing the sort of silliness those dancing sufis are doing.

Dancing is fun.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Dancing is fun.

Sheikh Uthaymeen said it's makruh and that if men do it it's imitation of women. I don't see it as something appropriate for men. I believe Sheikh Uthaymeen's view that it's makruh and worse if a guy does it.

Sheikh Albaani comments on women dancing and on men doing it as well:

here is a fatwa on it

حكم الرقص عموما

في هذا المقال، نتناول حكم الرقص في الإسلام، مستندين إلى آراء الفقهاء. الرقص يعتبر مكروها إذا خلا من المحرمات مثل الغناء والموسيقى وكشف العورات. ويرى بعض العلماء أن الرقص دناءة وسفه، ويؤكدون على ضرورة الالتزام بالضوابط الشرعية لتفادي الفتن. نقاش حول تصرف خطيبك أثناء حضور زفاف زميلتك، حيث رأى أن...

www.islamweb.net

(rough) AI translation of the fatwa:

Translation:

Praise be to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon the Messenger of Allah and his family and companions. As for what follows:

The scholars have differed regarding the ruling on dancing in general, and the prevailing view among us is its dislike (karahah) if it involves violating Islamic prohibitions, such as forbidden singing, musical instruments, exposing of private parts, immodest bending and provocative movements. We dislike it due to the saying of Allah: "And do not walk upon the earth exultantly. Indeed, you will never tear the earth [apart], and you will never reach the mountains in height" [Surah Al-Isra: 37].

Al-Qurtubi mentioned in his interpretation that scholars used this verse as evidence for the disapproval and prohibition of dancing. Imam Abu al-Wafa ibn 'Aqil stated: "The Qur'an has clearly prohibited dancing by stating: 'And do not walk upon the earth exultantly.' And it condemned arrogance, while dancing represents the highest level of excitement and deviation." This is the end of the quote.

In the Kuwaiti Encyclopedia of Jurisprudence, it is mentioned: The Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali, and a scholarly group from the Shafi'i madhhab consider dancing to be disliked, as they justify this by considering it degrading, foolish, a disrespect to one's integrity, and a form of amusement. Al-Abi said: Scholars used the narration about the Abyssinians dancing and leaping with their weapons in front of the Messenger of Allah as supporting evidence, as it is mentioned in some narrations that they playfully danced and leaped in the presence of the Prophet.

All of this applies unless dancing is accompanied by a forbidden act, such as drinking alcohol or exposing private parts, in which case it is prohibited undoubtedly. This is the end of the quote.

Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen was asked during a monthly meeting whether dancing and singing are permissible for women. His response was that dancing is disliked, and initially, he used to be lenient about it. However, he received several questions regarding incidents that occurred during women's dancing, and he decided to forbid it because some women are agile, beautiful, light, and their dancing can be seductive, leading other women to become infatuated. It was even reported to him that when such incidents occur, some women stand up and embrace the woman who is dancing, which further leads to temptation. Therefore, he eventually stated that it is prohibited. Allah knows best, and all glory and praise are due to You. We bear witness that there is no god but You. We seek Your forgiveness and repent to You.

However, we must mention that if some common people engage in dancing on certain occasions without this becoming their habit, as long as they adhere to the Islamic guidelines of avoiding temptation, covering their private parts, and refraining from what incites desires, then we hope that such cases would be permissible. This is supported by the narration found in the two Sahihs that the Prophet, peace be upon him, stood beside Aisha, covering her while the Abyssinians were playing and dancing. And "az-Zufn" refers to dancing. Allahu Akbar.

Regarding what your fiance did by entering with his friend while his friend was wearing his wife's jewelry, this is definitely not permissible. Also, his dancing in such a situation is not permissible because it is in the presence of women. It is highly likely that the women in such occasions would be adorned, and this serves as a temptation between the sexes.

Allah knows best.



This is someone citing the fatwa and I quote this because it is without the machine translation:

"
Performing dance ( رقص ) is haram when it involves other haram actions like intoxication, uncovering of the 'awrah, vulgarity etc.

There is difference among the madhabs on the ruling on dancing which is free from the above. The position of the majority is that it is makruh. Their evidence includes:

• It comes under the meaning of the following verse:
  

  ولا تمش في الأرض مرحا
  And do not walk upon the earth exultantly.
  — Quran 17:37

  
  

  استدل العلماء بهذه الآية على ذم الرقص وتعاطيه
  The Ulema have used this verse as evidence for the condemnation of dancing.
  — Tafsir al-Qurtubi

• It is a form of Lahw ( لهو ) - a useless pastime:
  

  كل ما يلهو به الرجل المسلم باطل إلا رميه بقوسه وتأديبه فرسه وملاعبته أهله
  All idle pastimes that the Muslim man engages in are falsehood, except for his shooting of his bow, his training of his horse, and his playing with his wife.
  — Jami at-Tirmidhi

• It is agreed upon by the jurists that it is unbecoming of a respectable or honorable person, as the testimony is not accepted of a person who engages in it regularly.

Reference: https://www.islamweb.net/ar/fatwa/134103/"

 

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Sheikh Uthaymeen said it's makruh and that if men do it it's imitation of women. I don't see it as something appropriate for men. I believe Sheikh Uthaymeen's view that it's makruh and worse if a guy does it.

Sheikh Albaani comments on women dancing and on men doing it as well:

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here is a fatwa on it

حكم الرقص عموما

في هذا المقال، نتناول حكم الرقص في الإسلام، مستندين إلى آراء الفقهاء. الرقص يعتبر مكروها إذا خلا من المحرمات مثل الغناء والموسيقى وكشف العورات. ويرى بعض العلماء أن الرقص دناءة وسفه، ويؤكدون على ضرورة الالتزام بالضوابط الشرعية لتفادي الفتن. نقاش حول تصرف خطيبك أثناء حضور زفاف زميلتك، حيث رأى أن...

www.islamweb.net

(rough) AI translation of the fatwa:

Translation:

Praise be to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon the Messenger of Allah and his family and companions. As for what follows:

The scholars have differed regarding the ruling on dancing in general, and the prevailing view among us is its dislike (karahah) if it involves violating Islamic prohibitions, such as forbidden singing, musical instruments, exposing of private parts, immodest bending and provocative movements. We dislike it due to the saying of Allah: "And do not walk upon the earth exultantly. Indeed, you will never tear the earth [apart], and you will never reach the mountains in height" [Surah Al-Isra: 37].

Al-Qurtubi mentioned in his interpretation that scholars used this verse as evidence for the disapproval and prohibition of dancing. Imam Abu al-Wafa ibn 'Aqil stated: "The Qur'an has clearly prohibited dancing by stating: 'And do not walk upon the earth exultantly.' And it condemned arrogance, while dancing represents the highest level of excitement and deviation." This is the end of the quote.

In the Kuwaiti Encyclopedia of Jurisprudence, it is mentioned: The Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali, and a scholarly group from the Shafi'i madhhab consider dancing to be disliked, as they justify this by considering it degrading, foolish, a disrespect to one's integrity, and a form of amusement. Al-Abi said: Scholars used the narration about the Abyssinians dancing and leaping with their weapons in front of the Messenger of Allah as supporting evidence, as it is mentioned in some narrations that they playfully danced and leaped in the presence of the Prophet.

All of this applies unless dancing is accompanied by a forbidden act, such as drinking alcohol or exposing private parts, in which case it is prohibited undoubtedly. This is the end of the quote.

Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen was asked during a monthly meeting whether dancing and singing are permissible for women. His response was that dancing is disliked, and initially, he used to be lenient about it. However, he received several questions regarding incidents that occurred during women's dancing, and he decided to forbid it because some women are agile, beautiful, light, and their dancing can be seductive, leading other women to become infatuated. It was even reported to him that when such incidents occur, some women stand up and embrace the woman who is dancing, which further leads to temptation. Therefore, he eventually stated that it is prohibited. Allah knows best, and all glory and praise are due to You. We bear witness that there is no god but You. We seek Your forgiveness and repent to You.

However, we must mention that if some common people engage in dancing on certain occasions without this becoming their habit, as long as they adhere to the Islamic guidelines of avoiding temptation, covering their private parts, and refraining from what incites desires, then we hope that such cases would be permissible. This is supported by the narration found in the two Sahihs that the Prophet, peace be upon him, stood beside Aisha, covering her while the Abyssinians were playing and dancing. And "az-Zufn" refers to dancing. Allahu Akbar.

Regarding what your fiance did by entering with his friend while his friend was wearing his wife's jewelry, this is definitely not permissible. Also, his dancing in such a situation is not permissible because it is in the presence of women. It is highly likely that the women in such occasions would be adorned, and this serves as a temptation between the sexes.

Allah knows best.



This is someone citing the fatwa and I quote this because it is without the machine translation:

"
Performing dance ( رقص ) is haram when it involves other haram actions like intoxication, uncovering of the 'awrah, vulgarity etc.

There is difference among the madhabs on the ruling on dancing which is free from the above. The position of the majority is that it is makruh. Their evidence includes:

• It comes under the meaning of the following verse:
  
  
  
• It is a form of Lahw ( لهو ) - a useless pastime:
• It is agreed upon by the jurists that it is unbecoming of a respectable or honorable person, as the testimony is not accepted of a person who engages in it regularly.

Reference: https://www.islamweb.net/ar/fatwa/134103/"

Ain't no way dancing is imitating of women.

Whats next laughing is imitating women too?

Most of these niggas don't like it because they are no fun.