Puntland Sultanate History

DR OSMAN

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Why do Somalis deny there was a sultanates in Puntland. It's not mentioned on any of the Somali TV channels. It's brushed away like people do not know, everyone knows, it's all over the streets when people speak. Creating a history that is not reflective of what the people are speaking about in common day to day interactions, is like building up another kangaroo history.

Puntland sultanates was there. They controlled Bari-Nugaal and Southern Puntland sultanates controlled mudug/galgaduud. They had a pact with the Italians to take over the 'zanzibari' south who at the time was reporting to a sultan in Zanzibar. Puntland ayaa gumaysi keenay bay yirahdan hawiyuhu. War anagu gumaysi ma keenin adeer, ma jirin wax mamul ah dhinaca koonfurta oo gacanta loo geliyo mamul uu gaar ah. We never brought colonizers to the south, we simply replaced the zanzibari authority in the South with the Italian.

The Italians turned on their treaty with us and bombed the Puntland sultanates and Puntland eventually came under the Italian Somalia jurisdiction. That's how the history should be read, to be factual not lies and emotions and qabiil jeclaysi. This part of history needs to be reminded to the italians, they broke their contractual agreements and should be held to some sort of account for that.
 

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It is paramount for PL to rule Bari to Galgaduud, look at the terrain, it's clearly not ideal for settlement, it can only work on clan elder networks and oral law systems. When PL arrived in galgaduud, there was an absent of central authority figure to control the nomads, Keenadiid took on that role and for them to deny this and make it out like it didn't happen, is absolutely wrong. He didn't enslave them, he gave them authority figure that all these nomads report too and hence stability. He was going to create a port access and city state in Hobyo. All the great people that galmudug proudly boast about were born under this man and his dynasty(sharmarkes kids).

What is wrong with that? should we just let it be like how it is now in Galmudug with 5 different leaders? Acknowledge history please, it's written down, we can't take away what has been done except to formally acknowledge it as apart of the history whether it was good or bad history, it needs to be stated loud and clear IT HAPPENED. HG oo mamul yeeshta ma dhacayso tarikhda ma dhicin, mantana ma dhacayso, it's impossible, wax ay ku heeshiyan ayaanba oolin oo tarikh ah except hadi aniga ii keenan shirka hobyo si aan figurehead uu noqdo lol. Yaab Kheyr oo murusade ah oo ceel buur laga qaxay oo ka si liita HG oo haysan waxgarad uu dhigma ayaa raba inu figurehead uu noqdo iyo muqdisho.

HG U NEED OSMAN MAHMOUD, II WACA ANA IDIN IMAADI DOONE OO BOQORKINA AH

The south was settled place and needed an administration, there was no war or invasion of the south except small areas like bimaal. Most were happy to switch from Zanzibar to Italy.
 
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Dhulbahante waa the Same as HG. No central figure, just a number of garaads, no sultanate was possible. HG wuxu ahaa just a bunch of elders like Dhulbahante, ma jirin qof guud uu dhaxaya. Majerten boqor guud ayaa uu dhaxayn jiray all the elders. Same with Isaaq just a bunch of elders oo saxiix gooni ah la galay gumaysiga, ma jirin boqor guud. No sultanate was possible in these areas. Only Majerten was possible
 

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Suldaan Keenadiid's Carab Saalax commander asked him why he was fighting with his uncle when there was a vast land to the south full of a primitive people who wear only the skins of beasts. "Let's go there!" he said. The suldaan agreed so his commander led their ship directly to Hobyo as he knew the precise location.

When they tried to dock their ship, HG elders refused them. Suldaan Keenadiid offered them a deal. He would step off his ship and accept only the amount of land that could be covered by the hide of a dik-dik.


They laughed and agreed. The suldaan had his men weave the dik-dik's hide into a thread that stretched kilometers.

The primitive locals were dumbfounded. The entire concept of cloth and weaving was foreign to them as wearers of the skins of beasts. They had no choice but to fulfill their end of the bargain since the deal was made in view of everyone. The only thing more shameful than being fooled in such a manner would be to go back on an official agreement.

This is the story of how a high IQ community took bested a low IQ one without any bloodshed. This is the story of when civilization was first introduced to Galgaduud. This is the story of the birth of Hobyo.
 

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It is paramount for PL to rule Bari to Galgaduud, look at the terrain, it's clearly not ideal for settlement, it can only work on clan elder networks and oral law systems. When PL arrived in galgaduud, there was an absent of central authority figure to control the nomads, Keenadiid took on that role and for them to deny this and make it out like it didn't happen, is absolutely wrong. He didn't enslave them, he gave them authority figure that all these nomads report too and hence stability. He was going to create a port access and city state in Hobyo. All the great people that galmudug proudly boast about were born under this man and his dynasty(sharmarkes kids).

What is wrong with that? should we just let it be like how it is now in Galmudug with 5 different leaders? Acknowledge history please, it's written down, we can't take away what has been done except to formally acknowledge it as apart of the history whether it was good or bad history, it needs to be stated loud and clear IT HAPPENED. HG oo mamul yeeshta ma dhacayso tarikhda ma dhicin, mantana ma dhacayso, it's impossible, wax ay ku heeshiyan ayaanba oolin oo tarikh ah except hadi aniga ii keenan shirka hobyo si aan figurehead uu noqdo lol. Yaab Kheyr oo murusade ah oo ceel buur laga qaxay oo ka si liita HG oo haysan waxgarad uu dhigma ayaa raba inu figurehead uu noqdo iyo muqdisho.

HG U NEED OSMAN MAHMOUD, II WACA ANA IDIN IMAADI DOONE OO BOQORKINA AH

The south was settled place and needed an administration, there was no war or invasion of the south except small areas like bimaal. Most were happy to switch from Zanzibar to Italy.
Suldaan kenadiid was clearly the oppressor going to hawiye land and oppressing them which is unislamic a dark and shameful part of our history which is better forgotten, suldaan kenadiid had no right to be on hawiye land without their consent.
 

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Suldaan kenadiid was clearly the oppressor going to hawiye land and oppressing them which is unislamic a dark and shameful part of our history which is better forgotten, suldaan kenadiid had no right to be on hawiye land without their consent.
Did you not read my post?
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He did have their consent. They just deeply regretted giving it to him afterwards.
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Suldaan kenadiid was clearly the oppressor going to hawiye land and oppressing them which is unislamic a dark and shameful part of our history which is better forgotten, suldaan kenadiid had no right to be on hawiye land without their consent.
War Naga amus, you bipolar dimwit.

Don't ever disrespect Sultaan Kenadiid.

Doqon
 

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War Naga amus, you bipolar dimwit.

Don't ever disrespect Sultaan Kenadiid.

Doqon
Why would you condone suldaan kenadiid living on hawiye land when you despise hawiye and when you yourself. would never go to hawiye land yet you are ok with suldaan kenadiid living amongst hawiye on their land? What happened to PIM? Now you are defending suldaan kenadiid for wanting to settle on hawiye land.

Abaayo macaan sonkoray malabey i will buy you a fendi handbag if you agree with me kkk
 

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Did you not read my post?
:umwhat:
He did have their consent. They just deeply regretted giving it to him afterwards.
:trumpsmirk:
He had no business being on hawiye land without their consent what he did was wrong and unjust, he took advantage of the kindness of the host those who owned the land, clearly he was an ungrateful guest.
 

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