Puntland Role In Shabab

[Saahid Qamaan]

The Doctor is on to something fair analysis.

It is rogue business together with the administration.

Is Ciise Yulux one of the most armed man with his own private army a Islamist?

He is not simple.

 

[Saahid Qamaan]

Bosaso is also home to human trafficking.

Oromo's and southern Somalis would never go that far out to Bosaso.

Smuggling routes into Yemen made it attractive.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Where are they getting their weapons then? Kismayo and Mogadishu is out of the question. I know they operate in 'somaliland' but there is no reports of them smuggling weapons through berbera. By operate I mean they live there and have their families living in Somaliland and they go back there to coordinate plans and attacks in Somalia. I don't deny that bit, that's been proven many times over with names given of people who are of special interest to Puntland.

Doesn't it make sense to you? Bosaso is highly wadaad controlled, anyone denying this is blind. They control the city economic lifelines including the port and having contacts well up into the port administration. Could they be helping their friends shabab by allowing them to dock their weapons at Bosaso is a fair question sxb.

gun smugglers work independent and they sell to any one. they arm the habar yoonis the state governemtns and the terrorist groups. they dont discriminate.

 

[Reer-Bari]

The Doctor is on to something fair analysis.

It is rogue business together with the administration.

Is Ciise Yulux one of the most armed man with his own private army a Islamist?

He is not simple.

ciise yulux i met him last month. how can he be an islamist when he owns shares in golis and has been in the tukaraq front lines. he works alongside puntland. stop the bullshit. i know him personally.he is a notorious pirate that cant be touched. he has over 200 armed men behind him.

 

[DR OSMAN]

ciise yulux i met him last month. how can he be an islamist when he owns shares in golis and has been in the tukaraq front lines. he works alongside puntland. stop the bullshit. i know him personally.he is a notorious pirate that cant be touched. he has over 200 armed men behind him.

So is that the guy who provides arms for all Somali factions?

 

[Reer-Bari]

Boowe you are from nugaal you don’t understand bari politics those qandala terrorist were mainly mucarad cali saleeban ever since the agreement when president abdiweli gaas went to qandala cali saleeban ceased the attacks in qandala

Those in galgala are mainly isaaq icitiraaf terrorists backed by some warsengeli previous leader was atom now living comfortably In Qatar after receiving an invitation from the Qatar goverment Who have a close relationship with villa somalia

brother i told you before to stop this cali saleebaan talk. daesh and al shabab in puntland consists of all tribes. just because the leader is cali saleebaan doesnt make them all cali salebaan. daesh and al shabab only recruit desperate and poor people which reer barris dont qualify. why are all the arrested all shabab over 80% from either somaliland, sanaag, mudug or the south. reer barri and reer nugaal dont participate unless its on the highest levels

 

[Reer-Bari]

So is that the guy who provides arms for all Somali factions?

no he is not a gun smuggler

 

[DR OSMAN]

brother i told you before to stop this cali saleebaan talk. daesh and al shabab in puntland consists of all tribes. just because the leader is cali saleebaan doesnt make them all cali salebaan. daesh and al shabab only recruit desperate and poor people which reer barris dont qualify. why are all the arrested all shabab over 80% from either somaliland, sanaag, mudug or the south. reer barri and reer nugaal dont participate unless its on the highest levels

What is his beef that ali saleban guy in the mountains? Who runs the galgala cell, they are far more notorious then the qandala cell. They couldn't even put up a fight to hold qandala and just ran from the town when PL forces entered. Their clearly 'small' group. Are they just there for publicity reasons to say 'yes daesh' operates in PL? because they don't do much at all in PL, it's always the galgala guys that does true work.

 

[Saahid Qamaan]

Reer Bari as usual you have comprehension issues.

I asked the Dr if Ciise Yulux was an Islamist to highlight and disprove that Ictisaam are selling weapons to Shabaab/Isis and Ciise Yulux is certainly does not fit that description in any interpretation.

 

[Saahid Qamaan]

Rogue criminals and pirate turned 'businessmen' such as Ciise Yulux in cohesion with Gaas administration who they pay off are trading in weapons.

Local Ictisaam businessmen help the vulnerable by collecting money and they certainly help with disasters more Gaas administration as people trust their money and donations with rather than corrupt Gaas.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

brother i told you before to stop this cali saleebaan talk. daesh and al shabab in puntland consists of all tribes. just because the leader is cali saleebaan doesnt make them all cali salebaan. daesh and al shabab only recruit desperate and poor people which reer barris dont qualify. why are all the arrested all shabab over 80% from either somaliland, sanaag, mudug or the south. reer barri and reer nugaal dont participate unless its on the highest levels

Qandala belongs to cali saleeban most isis in qandala are cali saleeban it’s a fact which you can’t refute.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Qandala belongs to cali saleeban most isis in qandala are cali saleeban it’s a fact which you can’t refute.

yea but your forgetting that cali saleebaan are the ones they end up targeting all of isis assinations are targeting cali saleebaan businessmen or police officers. who cleared qandala of isis. it was gallan and the previous finance minister shire haji farax who are both cali saleebaan who got rid of isis in qandala in one day. they still have their troops stationed in qandala. bro even cabdiwelli cali gaas said the major al shabab tribes are warsenglei and mohamoud saleebaan that is proven during the garacad raid. most of the dead and captured al shabab were either omar mohamud, issa mohamoud and osman mohamoud. thats why a lot of them ended up being pardoned or put in rehabilitation centers. even one of my friends father who is an advisor to gaas and is from the same reer abdulla tribe as him got arrested and released because during the garacad raid he got caught harboring wonded al shabab members in his house in garowe. in the fucking capital. bro we dont like to expose other puntland tribes but why do you feel like you have to put a magnifing glass on cali saleebaan. we prolly contribute like 25 compared to hundreds from your side. so stop it. al shabab is a problem for us all. we need to figure it out together and not point fingers at tribes.

 

[DR OSMAN]

yea but your forgetting that cali saleebaan are the ones they end up targeting all of isis assinations are targeting cali saleebaan businessmen or police officers. who cleared qandala of isis. it was gallan and the previous finance minister shire haji farax who are both cali saleebaan who got rid of isis in qandala in one day. they still have their troops stationed in qandala. bro even cabdiwelli cali gaas said the major al shabab tribes are warsenglei and mohamoud saleebaan that is proven during the garacad raid. most of the dead and captured al shabab were either omar mohamud, issa mohamoud and osman mohamoud. thats why a lot of them ended up being pardoned or put in rehabilitation centers. even one of my friends father who is an advisor to gaas and is from the same reer abdulla tribe as him got arrested and released because during the garacad raid he got caught harboring wonded al shabab members in his house in garowe. in the fucking capital. bro we dont like to expose other puntland tribes but why do you feel like you have to put a magnifing glass on cali saleebaan. we prolly contribute like 25 compared to hundreds from your side. so stop it. al shabab is a problem for us all. we need to figure it out together and not point fingers at tribes.

You will be exposed now. You reer bari have 3 extra seats you shouldn't have. You have 21 MPS. Reer nugaal sacrificed 3 seats from their quota which should be 12. It obviously went to your fucking ass and mudug. Nugaal wa dad sabr badr oo puntlandnimada dacad ka ah.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It was only mudug/bari asking for more then fair quota. Every other clan worked with their quota based on the former districts except you two regions. Now you demonstrate how your loyal when you want more then the agreed upon formula?

 

[Reer-Bari]

You will be exposed now. You reer bari have 3 extra seats you shouldn't have. You have 21 MPS. Reer nugaal sacrificed 3 seats from their quota which should be 12. It obviously went to your fucking ass and mudug. Nugaal wa dad sabr badr oo puntlandnimada dacad ka ah.

did i lie right now. dr osman. stop turning us against each other. either your a proponent of a strong and united puntland or your just like the hawiya and isaaq. stop using cali saleebaan as a scape goat. what are you getting from lying about us. it doesnt make sence. reer barri have 21 mps because not only are we the biggest region in puntland. we are also the biggest region in the whole of somalia. we have the highest population. if you ask me we need more mps.

 

[DR OSMAN]

did i lie right now. dr osman. stop turning us against each other. either your a proponent of a strong and united puntland or your just like the hawiya and isaaq. stop using cali saleebaan as a scape goat. what are you getting from lying about us. it doesnt make sence. reer barri have 21 mps because not only are we the biggest region in puntland. we are also the biggest region in the whole of somalia. we have the highest population. if you ask me we need more mps.

We all agreed to share on the districts of pre-1991, Bari is 6 districts according to that formula. 6 x 3 mps for each district is a total of 18. Nugaal is four districts(garowe, burtinle, eyl, dangarayo) we should've of gotten 12 MPS. You know this but you are not even seeing how nugaal are the best people in puntland who gave away 3 of their RIGHTFUL MPS to greedy reer bari and mudug who has 10 when it should only be 9.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

yea but your forgetting that cali saleebaan are the ones they end up targeting all of isis assinations are targeting cali saleebaan businessmen or police officers. who cleared qandala of isis. it was gallan and the previous finance minister shire haji farax who are both cali saleebaan who got rid of isis in qandala in one day. they still have their troops stationed in qandala. bro even cabdiwelli cali gaas said the major al shabab tribes are warsenglei and mohamoud saleebaan that is proven during the garacad raid. most of the dead and captured al shabab were either omar mohamud, issa mohamoud and osman mohamoud. thats why a lot of them ended up being pardoned or put in rehabilitation centers. even one of my friends father who is an advisor to gaas and is from the same reer abdulla tribe as him got arrested and released because during the garacad raid he got caught harboring wonded al shabab members in his house in garowe. in the fucking capital. bro we dont like to expose other puntland tribes but why do you feel like you have to put a magnifing glass on cali saleebaan. we prolly contribute like 25 compared to hundreds from your side. so stop it. al shabab is a problem for us all. we need to figure it out together and not point fingers at tribes.

If parts of bosaso district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud and disheshe was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud and disheshe

If caluula district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud and siwaqroon was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud and siwaqroon


If isku shuuban district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxmud was to be captured by terrorists then you can blame cismaan maxamud

If bendar bayla district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud


If parts of burtinle nugaal which is owned by cumar maxmud and ciise maxamud was to be captured by terrorist then you could blame cumar maxamud and ciise maxamud

Qandala is owned by cali saleeban no other tribe lives in that whole of qandala distruct of bari except cali saleeban

 

[Reer-Bari]

We all agreed to share on the districts of pre-1991, Bari is 6 districts according to that formula. 6 x 3 mps for each district is a total of 18. Nugaal is four districts(garowe, burtinle, eyl, dangarayo) we should've of gotten 12 MPS. You know this but you are not even seeing how nugaal are the best people in puntland who gave away 3 of their RIGHTFUL MPS to greedy reer bari and mudug who has 10 when it should only be 9.

lol your not making any sense. i already explained to you the reason why. barri has double maybe even triple the population

If parts of bosaso district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud and disheshe was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud and disheshe

If caluula district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud and siwaqroon was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud and siwaqroon


If isku shuuban district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxmud was to be captured by terrorists then you can blame cismaan maxamud

If bendar bayla district of bari which is owned by cismaan maxamud was to be captured by terrorists then you could blame cismaan maxamud


If parts of burtinle nugaal which is owned by cumar maxmud and ciise maxamud was to be captured by terrorist then you could blame cumar maxamud and ciise maxamud

Qandala is owned by cali saleeban no other tribe lives in that whole of qandala distruct of bari except cali saleebanView attachment 59101

i agree but its not captured at all. and you know this. so be fair. they got rooted out of qandala. thats why they are on the run and no where to be seen. even our villages took arms and attacked them previously

 

[DR OSMAN]

No mr @Reer-Bari] you shouldn't defend it at all. I am not blaming ali saleban it's clear you stuck with 3 MPs from bari which is fair it represents qandala district, each district gets 3. But there is other reer bari folks who got more then their fair share. It's not cisman maxamud either, he should've got way more then 3 mps in bari but he did a massive tanasul

 

[DR OSMAN]

Osman maxamud should've of gotten 2 for the qardho district. Completely 3 for bayla. Iskushuban maybe 2. Bosaso 1. Something like that is closer to the truth. They should've of gotten 50% at least of the bari quota by themselves. Tanasul happened clearly. The problem isn't ali saleban or osman maxamud, there are other clans who are getting far more then their fair share. Dashishe shouldn't get more then 1 MP for Boaso district. Those other mj clans shouldn't even be speaking at all. Siwaqroon maybe 2 for Calula