Puntland Needs To Separate From Somalia

[Djokovic]

As if the cumar maxamuud and ciise maxamuud are not chimping out against each other as we speak foh araanjaan done way more damage than gacaan libax ever could

Dkm that was just on social media for like 2 weeks it’s not the case in real life

 

[DR OSMAN]

I don't know why hawiye hate majerten cause every great leader to emerge from them post 1930 when MJ upper/lower kingdom ended either had MJ abti or MJ wife or MJ ayeeyo. They can't name one dude that is nationally revered from their clan who didn't cause they know this fact is real and if left to their own devices only 91 happens.

So MJ is a positive force for them. I mean MJ neglected their own land and built Mogadishu from 1930 till 1991 at the expense of their own people and region and still got killed for it and looted and they still help them again thru the creation of sfg from Abdullahi Yusuf with much lives lost and money spent. I mean their own ali Mahdi confessed he made his millions from Abdullahi Yusuf bribes on national TV at least he was repentant tuug unlike all the others who also were given the same but haven't repented and made subsequent millions.

I mean we put trees thru out Mogadishu and why today they enjoy a 10 degree difference to other coastal areas cause a tree is a natural air conditioner and lasts far longer then electricity or synthetic based air conditioners.

I'm actually surprised at MJ's who go way beyond necessary to help other Somali clans at the cost of their own people, they must think this is some reer magaal thing but it's not, charity starts home not with your neighbour.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Majerteens: filthy secessionist traitor idoor scum how dare you betray your fellow Somali brothers for your own selfish goals?

Also majerteens: View attachment 308710

These Jabarti suffer from bipolar disorder

 

[Yami]

MJ’s stay coping Isaaq leak. Y’all should just apply to join somaliland as this point let’s became Woqooyland together

 

[Al Adnani]

MJ’s stay coping Isaaq leak. Y’all should just apply to join somaliland as this point let’s became Woqooyland together

May Allah protect us from such a fate

 

[DR OSMAN]

MJ’s stay coping Isaaq leak. Y’all should just apply to join somaliland as this point let’s became Woqooyland together

This is real desperate by landers always looking for PL validation by saying hey look PL copying us, can't U ever just stand alone on your own merit then seeking PL out? It's pretty sad the amount of Isaaq always looking to PL, they legit can't exist among themselves if they don't revalidate among themselves that PL copied them(thus they assume now their holy).

We r not god waryaa. We just punch way above our weight since 1960 union and tend to leave a positive legacy for Somalis even tho that's never reciprocal, plus we have our own preceding kingdoms history.

 

[Yusuf M]

Puntland should've left in 1998. I feel like the longer Puntland waits, the harder it becomes to separate from the rest of Somalia.

 

[TheLand]

Puntland should've left in 1998. I feel like the longer Puntland waits, the harder it becomes to separate from the rest of Somalia.

PL will be forced to leave due to the dysfunction and terrorist infestation of the south whether it wants to or not. Mark my words. I think PL authorities know this too and are slowly disassociating themselves. You can tell by certain actions they take such as the currency issue.

 

[TheLand]

These Jabarti suffer from bipolar disorder

Hilarious, coming from the same bipolar schizo who wants to REJOIN Somalia and no longer believes in Somaliland.

 

[Yusuf M]

If Kismaayo was right next to Puntland, I think we would have flirted with seccessionism ourselves!

This might be an unpopular opinion. But I would still prefer independence even without Kismayo. When you have a problematic country like Somalia, you first secure your main population base. Kismayo is far away from the nearest PL border. Plus, look at all the coastal towns and settlements we have in PL. In fact, we are the only one in all of Somaliweyn with 2 coastline, the gulf of Aden and the Indian ocean. If we were a landlocked clan, then I would fully understand why Kismayo would matter.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This might be an unpopular opinion. But I would still prefer independence even without Kismayo. When you have a problematic country like Somalia, you first secure your main population base. Kismayo is far away from the nearest PL border. Plus, look at all the coastal towns and settlements we have in PL. In fact, we are the only one in all of Somaliweyn with 2 coastline, the gulf of Aden and the Indian ocean. If we were a landlocked clan, then I would fully understand why Kismayo would matter.

It doesn't matter if your landlocked or have access to maritime If U want to build a nation, what matters is the people and their will(do they care for their survival or more interested in being destructive force for other people) plus the effectiveness of their leaders, the accountability of them, and its stability. How many countries are landlocked? How many are landlocked within a country? It's not your location that makes U or your land qualities, it's the human capital.

 

[Fit~Prince]

fine, but you will lose all of your possessions in Koonfur and get deported from Kismayo

 

[Aarka Nugaal]

MJ’s stay coping Isaaq leak. Y’all should just apply to join somaliland as this point let’s became Woqooyland together

I guess we forgot to copy you in Goojacade. Instead of destroying your military, we should have pull a Mo Farah and ran like headless chickens the OG Somaliland way.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I guess we forgot to copy you in Goojacade. Instead of destroying your military, we should have pull a Mo Farah and ran like headless chickens the OG Somaliland way.

Didn't SL hide in fox holes like dacesh is doing in fear ninka PL yimaado learns the same hard lessons(WE R WARRIORS), PL govt don't pay or harbour terrorists like SL govt or live under terror the south.

AFG harbored terrorist but why they let SL get away with it and not some global assault or response(sanctions) baffles me, they were working with Shabab for decades and still do and letting dacesh keep PL busy for them(culaysyo la saaray) so they don't scare isaaq in its turmoil there which has hawiye n irir approval in Djibouti.

Irirism isn't moryanimo walle wa qadiyad wayn ka dhaxayo hawiye Iyo dir Iyo isaaq since the 60s or illa manta ayay uu arkan plan Bkooda and meet regularly in Djibouti summits, while their plan A is secession for Isaaq, and Centralism for hawiye, Djibouti is happy their role in the region(renting western bases and ethio trade) or even his position(rebellion) isnt jepordized by a rising Somalia by disgruntled locals.

I'm a moryan in my heart but moryans isma yaqanan once the shit leaves arimo dhaqaale and even worse marki dhulkaga loo tashado, I learned this quick in Hamar after seeing 3 moryans disregard one dude in the mission, the dude was later found and was carried around in wheel barrows by the civilians(while they came and tacsi as sheikhs), for what U may ask,his jifi were encroaching on some farm land real estate of murusade, he was also robbed severely, they used some weird tactics(trust me over there it's an art) I'll never forget not appropriate to say here, that was another time.

So I'm moryan but PL looma Soo farisan kare and it's the same for them, wa arin layska yaqan moryanimo shit. Murusade is low-key it's HG who is kinda explosive like. Abgaal was maskin just in his areas but defending turf only back then as HG wanted to expand there too.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Walle Moryanimo interests vs your people interest is a hard balancing act that gives you an unstable Mogadishu for 35 years and trust me moryans are not loyal to.moryans either they get wacked too.

I mean why would I want 100 moryans who r the brains behind it set up schemes that are unofficial like mashrucyo idp schemes, isbaaro on road or dead ppl, shabab zako n terror funds from Muslim enemy nations, rackets like offshore into international markets and safe havens(arms account and payment), inside the govt with contact to any clan in hamar(saying we are ying n yang ma kala qaadi kartid halalka hawiye iyo haramka hawiye sida beelaha kale oo nacaska ah) and let's enter banking game and set financial isbaaros there in hamar and Somalia and globally.

The fall out to this mindset is 99% die and go extinct over time and are stateless or the govt cant carry out its duty on its citizen well being, they become identity less, refugees eventually cawaan. It's a slim class of moryans who survive but your ppl r dead in the process due to no govt, u eventually turn into a scum yourself which is why I don't talk to them anymore qorshe fog ma aha dheh oo beneficial ah for your ppl survival(ama ti aad ku fadhisay laftigaga and your land interest) as noone wants to be homeless(look at how homeless u see are treated and assume your ppl like that on other ppl territory) no matter how rich u r as a moryan saldhigaga taa weeye and other moryans in the world know this and can use as an edge on u(maxa naga qaade bay ku oranayan as they rob u eventually of your lil wealth knowing you have no saldhig or nation to fight for you) but it falls on deaf eyes cause the red eyes emerge(dantooda).

 

[DR OSMAN]

What I like about moryanism is how real and provable they operate on not just trust me ama ii amiin, walal, boowe type of pleading.

I remember one dude who never fasted there in ramadan and I said why don't u do as they do and not stand out for persecution, he said I fast already naturally in my life, I don't over eat or under eat, I can go days and nights without eating and drinking, my amount of food n water intake isn't out of control and he pointed at they fast 30 days but eat like monsters for 11 months he said when u do the maths, I fasted longer in my life then they did anyways and he was net positive. He had issues with authority Islam tho, he said I aint coming into some ritual every month and reinforcing myself to get some social credit.

Apparently there is even newer groups there who won't eat your meat either there(even more extreme) as he assumes your meat is spiritually unclean because your not a Muslim but a public poser or mainstream type of idol worshippers of some.man made movement of scholars(pharisees). I don't think the issue is religion tho humans don't like authority no matter what the area is by nature as we r supposed to be free like Adam.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

When did we say that? We don't care if you decide to even join Ethiopia tomorrow idooroow. Our problem with the khat people was always with claiming SSC region.

SSC clearly doesnt want either ruling them

 

[Barkhadle1520]

My issue with SNM seccessionism is that they want to steal Harti land. That is all. Somalia is a mistake. Majeerteen descend from autonomous Kingdoms and Sultanates, we tried to help this disaster of a country by creating SYL. However, we all know what happened when power was stolen by wax magarato Kacaanists.

If Kismaayo was right next to Puntland, I think we would have flirted with seccessionism ourselves!

What Harti land do SL claim ?

 

[The Oponian Guild]

SSC clearly doesnt want either ruling them

SSC dhamataay.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

SSC dhamataay.

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