"Puntland Is A 3.5 System"

[Marquis]

what's a leysaan

Roobow's tribe.

 

[GBTarmy]

You don't know Leysaan but wanna talk about who is good for JL what a nacas @Shaolin23

What are you talking about? I support federalism in Jubbaland and I usually only talk about Kismayo not my fault your state is confined to Kismayo which I have right to speak about.

 

[Arma]

Dont worry about a place 1000 km away talk about misplaced priorities

My priorities are all set. I'm happy Alhamdulillah. As an MJ, I rule myself, and my lands are free, from either a terrorist organisations, foreign troops, or a rival clan. Those ISIS and Al Shabaab are more than welcome to carry on bumming each other in their caves deep in the Qandala and Galgala mountains.

 

[Arma]

What are you talking about? I support federalism in Jubbaland and I usually only talk about Kismayo not my fault your state is confined to Kismayo which I have right to speak about.

Oooooo you've done it now.......you've mentioned Kismayo......that's gonna set them off now kkkkk

 

[Arma]

I think it's really telling that you never hear a peep from Leelkase and Carab Salahs, about this supposed stranglehold that Maxamuud Saleeban have. It's also telling that Leelkase and Carab Salahs are incredibly hard working people, that carry on with their own business, and develop their lands, without looking at MJ. Not forgetting the fact that they are incredibly loyal to Puntland.

 

[nine]

What are you talking about? I support federalism in Jubbaland and I usually only talk about Kismayo not my fault your state is confined to Kismayo which I have right to speak about.

You support Aw Hirsi and said he helps Reer Gedo you wanna talk about yaa meesha u fiican adoo laysaan maqlin you try to talk about clan politics of the area tell me isn't a Puntite a Puntite whether from Bosaso or Garacad or Baran no unukaa leh between them using your logic I am Reer JL whether Gedo or Kismayo but you don't use your logic in that case you two faced liar

 

[GBTarmy]

You support Aw Hirsi and said he helps Reer Gedo you wanna talk about yaa meesha u fiican adoo laysaan maqlin you try to talk about clan politics of the area tell me isn't a Puntite a Puntite whether from Bosaso or Garacad or Baran no unukaa leh between them using your logic I am Reer JL whether Gedo or Kismayo but you don't use your logic in that case you two faced liar

haye you made your point but what does that have to do with me not knowing rx clans?

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

A southie preaching about power sharing?

Ciyaarta masaajidka kadaya boowe

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

I’ve noticed small teeth people are far more worried about whats going on in Puntland than even most Puntlanders, this is what happens whenever they have a leader that doesn’t help develop their regions. Barre and Farmaajo knew something was up when both of them never even set a foot or mentioned their region.


Small teeth always crying about MJ. What else is new?
Go eat your hyena meat and sit down somewhere.

 

[Karim]

MX fairies always derailing excellent threads.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Even though some of what you said are absolutely correct, I disagree with your views on the Ali Saleebaan issue.

Ali Saleebaan are the backbone of Puntland economically, they pay high taxes and contribute to Puntland's GDP specifically their contribution to the import sector. They have been sidelined politically and that's NOT fair at all for a humongous sub clan as Ali Saleebaan. They deserve that seat. Even though they don't have savvy politician that can outmaneuver Mohamud Saleeban's grip on power.

horta be honest with me, how one clan - muxamuud salebeen - dominates puntland,

how do yall keep the others quite and bow for yall? the ohter majerteen langabs etc?

in Ogadeniya, if a reer cabdulle becomes one, it has to be bah gaeri, makahil, cabdalla, cawlyahan, reer isaaq etc, in fact all the Ogaden sub clans have had leadership in DDSI,

a bah gaeri, small compared to say mohamed zubeer will tell his other larger cousins and tell them its my time this time, so he gets it, and the others keep quite,

i have noticed most clans like marehn and Mj and 1door they bully each other and thus smaller clans must alsomot be scared of the bigger ones,

but Ogaden, they prefer to share it amongst each other thus no such thing as a small clan, because the smaller clasn are not scare, they will start war,

Ogaden have a tradtion other clans do not have, if a single clan tries to dominate the rest, the rest gang up, karbash him and tell him to behave, but other tribes like mj, 1door, hawiye, marehan can be dominated by 1 single large clan relative to the rest and the rest do not have the guts to challenge but deep down hate them and resent them,

its the same with NFD and ujubaland, if ahmed cade madoobe goes, trust me the next in line is either cawlyahan, candalla or makahikl or bah gari, meaning reer zubeer will be told to wait another term,


example, my cousin, being a mohamed zubeer, reer warfa, reer dalal, was not allowed to stand for jubaland MP because ahmed madoobe is reer warfa, so the Mp was limited for reer warfa and thus given to say reer isaaq, or reer camir, reer osman, ugaas nuur etc, another mohamed zubeer sub clan,

he kept quite,

when mohamed zubeer got 3 federal mps, reer amadin and reer warfa depite being the vast majorty in jubaland, decided to give it to cali wanag, reer isaaq and cali nasir or adan qayr i think in 2012, reer warfa and reer amadin = Hassan dheer in the reer cabdulle sublands give it to their cousins, why ? becasue the sultan is hassan dheer (reer warfa) the presdient is reer warfa, thus hassan dheer limited their desires for MPs, so out of the 12 Ogaden somalia Mps, we got non depsite being vast majorty for Ogadens in somalia,

but other clans karbash each other and dominate each other like Mj, marehan, 1dooristan etc,

i have political aspirations, thus i have to wait a turn when its reer zubeers turn,

how come cali saleeb pays the most tax, the most rich yet are denied leadership at the helm?

 

[Rise]

Non-Majeerteen love to try and divide us with this nonsensical Maxamoud Saleebaan vs everyone fairytale.

Majeerteen is a SUB SUB SUB SUB clan of Daarood, we are literally a FAMILY unlike most other tribes who count one or two grandfathers from the original clan founder.


Majeerteen have a Boqortooyo system which we have had since the beginning. The title went to Maxamoud Saleebaan---Osman Maxamoud, which makes them our traditional leadership.

After colonialism, they had a higher population of educated elite which again can be traced to our ancient system.

They dominate our political system whereas other tribes dominate the Business sector, such as Cali Saleebaan, Wabeeneeye etc.

Reer Bicidyahan are mostly concentrated in Wardheer, hence why they don't dominate the politics of Puntland.

There is no such thing as MJ yaryar, we are united and we work together to preserve our heritage and state. If we didn't, explain why we have a non- reer Waamo Reer Bicidyahan minister in Jubbaland.

Majeerteen have given far too much to other clans to appease them for natural dominating others. It's time to stop apologising for being who we are.


IN SHORT:

From a Non-Maxamoud Saleebaan Majeerteen.

Maxamoud Saleebaan Ibn Majeerteen ha noolaadaan, cadowGEENA ha jabo.

Cadow iyo shisheeye;

It's none of your damn business if a Maxamoud Saleebaan rules Puntland until Yawm Al Qiyaama.

 

[Abdalla]

what do you know about peace and powersharing? go and unite mx while you're at stop joining alshabab in gedo.

They turned one of their own MX subclan into untouchables. The girls of hawrarsame are not married from nor can the men of hawrarsane marry from you.

Theres no secret deal to rotate the seats between the big 3. Our politics is vicious. Look at the many heavyweights that are challenging Gaas. Our politics is vicious, it is personal, it's harsh.


@3.40 Gaas roasted severely. ILMIHIISA AFSOMALI KUMA HADLAAN

The best man always wins. May tbe best man win this time

 

[GBTarmy]

They turned one of their own MX subclan into untouchables. The girls of hawrarsame are not married from nor can the men of hawrarsane marry from you.

Theres no secret deal to rotate the seats between the big 3. Our politics is vicious. Look at the many heavyweights that are challenging Gaas. Our politics is vicious, it is personal, it's harsh.


@3.40 Gaas roasted severely. ILMIHIISA AFSOMALI KUMA HADLAAN

The best man always wins. May tbe best man win this time

As a first timer keeping up with the election this is too muchthe tension is too high.

Lmfao @ afsomali kuma hadlaan, he has a point qurbo joob politicians are getting a lot of backlash now. Puntites know how to make politics exciting by throwing shots in a civilized way instead of sending bunch of militias at each other

 

[CanIDimo]

This tribalist journalist named Shiine Culay, uploaded this 35 minute video recently, where he moans about how Puntland is occupied by Maxamuud Saleeban MJs.

You see our friend here, comes from the Warsangeli clan. They are one of the three main loser clans of Puntland, along side Dhulbahante, and Ali Saleeban MJs.

I find it extremely odd, that these three clans, will moan and cry about the power sharing that the BIG THREE (Cusman, Ciisa, and Cumar Maxamuuds) have. Day and night, they'll be slandering Maxamuud Saleeban, wishing nothing but habar on them, wanting the leadership of Puntland, while at the same time, going against Puntland.......

How Dhulbahante, Warsangeli, Ali Saleeban MJs, going against Puntland you might be asking, well, I'll tell you how and why...

Ali Saleeban:

Let's start off from home, my subclan.
Sometime ago, the former Governor of Bari, this half Madow mutt (his mother is Madowweyn) Galan, after having a spat with Gaas, over who would be running the Bosaso seaport or airport, decided since Ali Saleeban weren't gonna get neither, to take the Ali Saleeban faction of the PL army, and set up a checkpoints and roadblocks on the outskirts of Bosasso, and terrorise and extort the people travelling to and from Bosaso.
After a while of doing this f*ckery, thanks to the great work of our elders, he and Gaas made up, and his forces returned to the PL Army, and normalcy returned. No betting he went on an all-inclusive holiday to the Caribbean with all that extorted money. The man should be in prison. He shouldn't even have been given a leadership position in the first place, due to his half Bantu blood (yes I'm a racist).

In the Autumn (that's fall for you Reer North America) of 2016 in the town of Qandala, the major Ali Saleeban deegan, the town was taken by ISIS. They were headed by this long time terrorist named Abdulqadir Mumin. Top marks for guessing what his subclan is?? Yes, well done, he's Ali Saleeban. Also, you'll never guess what subclan the bulk of his fighters are either?? Correct again, they're mostly Ali Saleeban.
After about a month of taking the town of Qandala, the Puntland Army, successfully took back control of the area, after a massive amphibious operation and fierce fighting.

Still to this day, Mumin and his men are hiding in the vast mountain range of Qandala.

And lets not forget the greatest crime of Ali Saleeban, the assassination of the great President Sharmarke. A man greatly loved, and missed to this day all over Somaliweyn. No doubt Somalia would be much better off, had hed not been murdered by his Ali Saleeban bodyguard.

Warsangeli:

They're greatest crimes against the state of Puntland is their role in Al Shabaab of the Galgala mountain range, and prominent members of this clan running of to Somaliland, when MJ doesn't give them some money.

Al Shabaab have had a long presence in the Galgala mountains area, for over a decade now. Puntland has been having a hard time uprooting this force of evil from their mountains hiding spots, due to the difficulties in fighting against a foe in a mountain terrain.

These guys, know those mountains inside out. They know it better than any MJ, it does help, when you're of the clan who lives there. These Warsangeli Al Shabaab, although led by Issaq leader/s, nevertheless, have killed and maimed thousands of their fellow Hartis in Bosaso, northern Bari, and in the Harti side of Sanaag. Never have they attacked any Issaq degaans of Sanaag.

Apart from their Al Shabaab role, Warsangeli also have a thing of turning to SL at times. Every time there is an SL election, they welcome every single candidate. They welcome SL military men, and they welcome SL politicians. Some years ago, the elders of Las Quray welcomed Oday Silanyo, while those same elders, were swearing to be part and parcel of Puntland.

In Badhan, Puntland buit a brand new beautiful University. It was opened back in 2017, it was done through the hard work and pulling power that Maxamuud Saleeban have in the Gulf. And what thanks does Puntland get for building them this university?? The same town, welcomed SL officials into their town......

Dhulbahante:

You all know my views of Dhulbahante. So to be fair to this clan, I wont say much, as all is already known about them. Their anti-PL, anti-MJ cuqdad, anti-harti even (it's no secret they also hate Warsangeli for not joining their Khastumo State).

I just find it astonishing that these three clans and subclan, have the gall to talk smack about Maxamuud Saleeban, while they do this absolute f*ckery, like joinging terrorist organisations, and rival Somali regions.

Waa iska pathetic, really. I hope neither of these clans ever achieve power in Puntland, for Puntland would cease to exist if they ever did. May Allah SWT protect Maxamuud Saleeban from their evil eyes, AMEEN.

i'm not Maxamuud Saleeban but i think they are vital, they are the backbone of mj and puntland i have no hatred towards them, and their lose means mjs or hartis lose as a whole
i don't f*ck with any non-Maxamuud Saleeban mj or a harti who is doesn't love Maxamuud Saleeban and respect. period being anti Maxamuud Saleeban is being anti puntland is being anti mj is being anti harti

 

[BenInHer]

no Ali Saleeban presidency for you....

 

[GBTarmy]

i'm not Maxamuud Saleeban but i think they are vital, they are the backbone of mj and puntland i have no hatred towards them, and their lose means mjs or hartis lose as a whole
i don't f*ck with any non-Maxamuud Saleeban mj or a harti who is doesn't love Maxamuud Saleeban and respect. period being anti Maxamuud Saleeban is being anti puntland is being anti mj is being anti harti

what's your sub?

 

[Madaxgaab]

Dude threw his whole sub clan under the bus ..
Always missing the good threads when I'm sleeping . Excellent thread .so do these terrorists tuna ppl and ali saleeban ppl from the mountains
Collect money from isbaros? How many isbaros do they run ?

 

[waraabe]

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[Madaxgaab]

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