Puntland Higher IQ Society

[DR OSMAN]

If Puntland wants higher IQ you need to disassociate from Somalia who don't even understand the fundamental scientific method or academic research. Wallahi they don't even know that .com websites are not considered science or academia. Science is only what is in university journals since it has gone thru the proper peer review and scientific method. This is the only data that is allowed as scientific fact in ANY FIELD OF HUMANITY.

I am dealing with baboon level IQs in Somalispot and this is supposed to be OUR DIASPORA sxb? who comes with familytreedna.com and shacabkamedia.com references in they're thesis paper. How are we going to compete with JEWS or the rest of the world when we don't even have a scientific ummah? we use mythologies, business websites or personal opinions, and mythologies as reference points.

We don't understand the process of critical thinking, collecting data, reviewing it objectively, foresight and planning the data into targetted industry or government services for improvement. This is a society of progress sxb. You won't find even one critical person here about his own tribe, let alone anything else in life. I will find it interesting when I attend PL university to ensure they're following the best practises and scientific method of all universities or noone can cite your research your just another .com website as the professor rejects your truly a critical society. You can't improve your government or people if you don't have academia and science in your country, you will be using people opinions or familytree.dna nonsense hahahahaha.

Wallahi they is noway we inventing anything or contributing to the world if we don't change ourselves immediately to follow the scientific method and that means no more .com websites that means no more people's opinion, just go into university libraries online and read THIS only, this is SCIENCE, wuxu soo maray the checks n balances of the best minded people in the world.

For example Haplogroup is a science but it's only used for research in medicine, it's used to group countries but its all made up, its just a way to find answers to diseases but some .com website took that as a family tree and its nonsense. War e1b1 is just a marker for somalia health research, its not about theyre origins, war i hate this nation. In medical research they need to group continents into alphabetic organization that doesnt mean this has anything to do with ethnic or family ancestory. There is no family ancestory field in genetics. Some shacabkamedia dude took advantage of the ignorance of people and turned what was medical endeavor into a family finding nonsense. war thos letters are made up, it wasnt assigned because we are FAMILY but because we are from the same geogrpahic area. I tried to tell this nigga apollo but he just keep refusin and this guy said he went to university.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I doubt anyone has been to a university here, except maybe @PhySom you niggas here went to the school of mythology maybe but not a proper university or u wud know the academic processes, how can u not the academic processes and claim you 'graduated'? you wouldn't be able to graduate waryaa stop the nonsense. I will be very suspicious of somalis who claim they are PHD, I will ask them the academic culture first and if they understand. I am an academic waryaa, I am pursuing a MASTERS and haven't reached a PHD level, but this knowledge is well known even if you finished a bachelor. PHD is a whole different area in university and requires REAL RESEARCH that you did while debunking old research in journals or CONTRIBUTING TO IT. That's why they say theories are not FACT because a new research paper can debunk it as long as he has gone thru the proper academic processes.

No wonder osman mahmoud only reach international court judges. They do proper research in their field following the academic standards, no wonder none of PHD HOLDERS IN Somalia have reached anywhere in they're fields wallahi. VIVA OSMAN MAHMOUD. WATCH OUT FOR DR WHO WILL BE LEADING EXPERT IN MY FIELD IN THE FUTURE

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom YOUR WELCOME IN PL as you follow the academic model and scientific model, maybe we can grow together as the same time, keep the southies away, they will just bring us down and our academia will be viewed as garbage also, hence separation of lower and higher cultures is mandatory like whites did to aborigines.

HASHTAG PIM in all your posts in twitter and online so the movement starts

 

[DR OSMAN]

I accept IQ testing bro even if it's done private institution but it has to follow academia route not they're own and it must be endorsed by academia as one of their institutions. This is a real science not the online test garbage you see, no-one endorsed them. Go read the science behind Haplogroups, it's MADE UP WORD describe nations into common diseases only. Not family tree and who is related. Your dna testing is a complete abuse of genetic field and there is no field for your nonsense and it's a shame there is dedicated sub-section to something that is essentially a MARKETING scheme because all journals refer to as a business marketing scheme not science. That's all it is. They don't understand Haplogroups is medical term for disease markers in different nation not who is related to who. I am going to leave Somalia wallahi as I begin promoting PIM and showing our cultural differences and yes culture is REAL not racial. We don't think the same as Majerten and Hawiye, if u give us the same problem u will see the hawiye answer it by attacking the paper and majerten will follow the academic procedures

I will take @Teeri-Alpha @PhySom who understand the academic world. If I had to a data research on Somalispot the IQ levels would be bachelor level for maybe only 2% of users, the rest wouldn't be allowed into universities as they would barely get thru high school with their unscientific mind

 

[mo1990]

Haye. I have a simple, simple solution.
NUKE SOMALIA!!!
Let us be like the jews and the world will end up getting us a better land

 

[Samaalism]

Dr Osman, can you please show me the academic research you done to come to the conclusion puntland has a large rural nomadic community.

From being a somalispot veiwer with no account previously I have time and time again seen you make these claims and claims that Isaaq are a settled people.

I have sussed out why you make these claims and it was because you got karbashed about the size of your towns and it was beyond dispute that hargeisa was bigger than all darood towns let alone puntland.

Anyways I have an issue with your statement because Somali tarikh bay leedahay waa akhira zamaan marku nin majeerteena oo isaga iyo awooygisba geel lahayn inu la so shir tago ana geel haysta. Geel waxa lagu oga beesha garxajis iyo beesha Ogaden oo weliba beesha garxajis aay Siday tarikhda xusayso ku adkaday beerigi aan jaahileen ahayn oo cawska an isku dilijirnay. That’s why Ogaden got chased from prime hawd pastures the land of the geeljire to juba and tana were they get sick and catch malaria and are eaten by weird animals like crocodiles and live amoungst and assimilate weird people like boooon hunter gatherers.

Majeerteen waxa lagu ooga kaluuun ama Malay sida konfuurta looga yaqaan. Dhulka puntland cawse kama baxo waa dhagax qalalaan. There are only few and far between small vallys with a bit of vegitation. Majeerteen oo xoolo haysta waxan ku ooga bicidyaan iyo raga reer mahad. Inta kale waxan uu aqaan rag kaluun ku so koray oo afka uraya.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Dr Osman, can you please show me the academic research you done to come to the conclusion puntland has a large rural nomadic community.

From being a somalispot veiwer with no account previously I have time and time again seen you make these claims and claims that Isaaq are a settled people.

I have sussed out why you make these claims and it was because you got karbashed about the size of your towns and it was beyond dispute that hargeisa was bigger than all darood towns let alone puntland.

Anyways I have an issue with your statement because Somali tarikh bay leedahay waa akhira zamaan marku nin majeerteena oo isaga iyo awooygisba geel lahayn inu la so shir tago ana geel haysta. Geel waxa lagu oga beesha garxajis iyo beesha Ogaden oo weliba beesha garxajis aay Siday tarikhda xisaso ku adkaday beerigi aan jaahileen ahayn oo cawska an isku dilijirnay. That’s why Ogaden got chased from prime hawd pastures the land of the geeljire to juba and tana were they get sick and catch malaria and are eaten by weird animals like crocodiles and live amoungst and assimilate weird people like **** hunter gatherers.

Majeerteen waxa lagu ooga kaluuun ama Malay sida konfuurta looga yaqaan. Dhulka puntland cawse kama waxo waa dhagax qalalaan. There are only few and far between small vallys with a big of vegitation. Majeerteen oo xoolo haysta waxan ku ooga bicidyaan iyo raga reer mahad. Inta kale waxan uu aqaan rag kaluun ku so koray oo afka uraya.

I will show u my first abtirsi so u know it's my 'awoowe' right. We will walk u thru how many people are alive for just one awoowe. U will see 80% are nomads on camels. U will then have to assume the same for all puntites in calculation. So if our towns is 1 million 4 million r nomads, u saw the sample. Plus if u take away our nomads n livestock trade, our port dies niyahow no economy exist hence they r the largest section in our community.

Berbera port is ogaden camels ask @Teeri-Alpha to stop using it and use garacad and see what happens to berbera. Thats why i say isaaq has no rural population. What u have is hargeisa n berbera and thats it. I have similar sized towns plus another 4 million ppl on camels dee is the difference. I do acknowledge garhajis tho cuz of gashaamo which is quite large

It's not about how large towns are in PL, it's about 'miyi' that's where our 80% live. Isaaq is tiny bro, I saw the abtirsi and mine way longer meaning more relatives and cousins and people in general. Yo bro I am done with isaaq after i saw one awoowe and he showed me they all lived in hargeisa the descendants meaning no nomads, i dont talk about these niggas anymore. Im done with them. I am dealing with darods now and especially ogaden due to the large land size

 

[Samaalism]

I will show u my first abtirsi so u know it's my 'awoowe' right. We will walk u thru how many people are alive for just one awoowe. U will see 80% are nomads on camels. U will then have to assume the same for all puntites in calculation. So if our towns is 1 million 4 million r nomads, u saw the sample. Plus if u take away our nomads n livestock trade, our port dies niyahow no economy exist hence they r the largest section in our community.

Berbera port is ogaden camels. Thats why i say isaaq has no rural population. What u have is hargeisa n berbera and thats it. I have similar sized towns plus another 4 million ppl on camels dee is the difference.

It's not about how large towns are in PL, it's about 'miyi' that's where our 80% live. Isaaq is tiny bro, I saw the abtirsi and mine way longer meaning more relatives and cousins and people in general.

Bro that’s all sounds like a pipe dream. You can’t create a geel legacy out of nowhere. Maybe these naive kids on somalispot but nin weyn hadaad waxa ula tegtid wuu kugu qosli. The bottom like is puntlands landscape can not sustain a large nomadic community.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro that’s all sounds like a pipe dream. You can’t create a geel legacy out of nowhere. Maybe these naive kids on somalispot but nin weyn hadaad waxa ula tegtid wuu kugu qosli. The bottom like is puntlands landscape can not sustain a large nomadic community.

Just do your own test not argue with me dee. Science is about tests. Ask an isaaq to show u his awoowe and descendants u will find them crammed in hargeisa. If I did the same with my awoowe and descendants crammed in one place, garowe wud be mogadishu size or larger. Just do the test bro, it's about test not debate. My clan isnt crammed in one city, mana deeqo dee. Landheere baan ahay oo isbixiyay. I have large land u dont, your squeezed in like a .

Lets do boohaaro and bah dubays test against Isaaq and u will see how much isaaq lineages u need to EQUALIZE JUST BAH DUBAYS. PLUS I GET BRAND POWER BOOHAARO SON OF DAROD VS ALL ISAAQS HAHAHAHAHA THATS AMAZING I WILL SIGN TO THAT DEAL. Its about brand building ,we lack a brand as bah dubays noone knows us so i need to compare ourselves to large clans who are known and get FREE ADVERTISEMENT. In the end you will see bah dubays and isaaq and hawiye on TV HOLDING CONFERENCES. I GO BACK TO DAROD AND SAY I AM NOT EVEN JILIB OSMAN MAHMOUD BUT SUB JILIB OF YUSUF MAXAMED. I WILL BE GRANTED THE DAROD MVP CLAN AWARD FOR THE YEAR. WE SHUD HOLD DAROD AWARDS WITH CLANS WHO R GROWING INTO NATIONS

 

[Samaalism]

I will show u my first abtirsi so u know it's my 'awoowe' right. We will walk u thru how many people are alive for just one awoowe. U will see 80% are nomads on camels. U will then have to assume the same for all puntites in calculation. So if our towns is 1 million 4 million r nomads, u saw the sample. Plus if u take away our nomads n livestock trade, our port dies niyahow no economy exist hence they r the largest section in our community.

Berbera port is ogaden camels ask @Teeri-Alpha to stop using it and use garacad and see what happens to berbera. Thats why i say isaaq has no rural population. What u have is hargeisa n berbera and thats it. I have similar sized towns plus another 4 million ppl on camels dee is the difference. I do acknowledge garhajis tho cuz of gashaamo which is quite large

It's not about how large towns are in PL, it's about 'miyi' that's where our 80% live. Isaaq is tiny bro, I saw the abtirsi and mine way longer meaning more relatives and cousins and people in general. Yo bro I am done with isaaq after i saw one awoowe and he showed me they all lived in hargeisa the descendants meaning no nomads, i dont talk about these niggas anymore. Im done with them. I am dealing with darods now and especially ogaden due to the large land size

Bro Ogaden don’t ship geel from berbera they ship from Djibouti and bosaso. Bosaaso also has all the shipping for hawiye that can’t get to Mogadishu because of al shabaab isbaro. As soon as that road is clear puntland is going to become a dry sponge.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro Ogaden don’t ship geel from berbera they ship from Djibouti and bosaso. Bosaaso also has all the shipping for hawiye that can’t get to Mogadishu because of al shabaab isbaro. As soon as that road is clear puntland is going to become a dry sponge.

That's science. I want to do a test sxb to block ogaden/hawiye nomads cuz u r right, hawiye does export thru bosaso becuz beletwayn to hamar is to dangerous route to use. But we need a test that is acceptable to u and me and we observe the results. I am prepared for that are u

 

[Samaalism]

Just do your own test not argue with me dee. Science is about tests. Ask an isaaq to show u his awoowe and descendants u will find them crammed in hargeisa. If I did the same with my awoowe and descendants crammed in one place, garowe wud be mogadishu size or larger. Just do the test bro, it's about test not debate. My clan isnt crammed in one city, mana deeqo dee. Landheere baan ahay oo isbixiyay. I have large land u dont, your squeezed in like a .

Lets do boohaaro and bah dubays test against Isaaq and u will see how much isaaq lineages u need to EQUALIZE JUST BAH DUBAYS. PLUS I GET BRAND POWER BOOHAARO SON OF DAROD VS ALL ISAAQS HAHAHAHAHA THATS AMAZING I WILL SIGN TO THAT DEAL. Its about brand building ,we lack a brand as bah dubays noone knows us so i need to compare ourselves to large clans who are known and get FREE ADVERTISEMENT. In the end you will see bah dubays and isaaq and hawiye on TV HOLDING CONFERENCES. I GO BACK TO DAROD AND SAY I AM NOT EVEN JILIB OSMAN MAHMOUD BUT SUB JILIB OF YUSUF MAXAMED. I WILL BE GRANTED THE DAROD MVP CLAN AWARD FOR THE YEAR. WE SHUD HOLD DAROD AWARDS WITH CLANS WHO R GROWING INTO NATIONS

Bro that’s all empty rhetoric. Isaaq have 90% of the hawd pastures. Go to historic gabays and see how valuable that land is. When it’s abaar see how dhulbahante all go to there 3% of the hawd to survive. We have a larger rural pop than urban.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro that’s all empty rhetoric. Isaaq have 90% of the hawd pastures. Go to historic gabays and see how valuable that land is. When it’s abaar see how dhulbahante all go to there 3% of the hawd to survive. We have a larger rural pop than urban.

We are not counting Isaaq presence in DDSI, just in the official border of Somalia. I ain't bringing my wardheer niggas either, u can't too. Just seal the borders of Isaaq territories within Somalia bal aar ii tus hal niin isaaq abtirsi and I will show u how his awoowe and descendants are crammed into one city like burco or hargeisa. We must assume this is the sample rate for all. We can test it over a sample of 10, 100, 1000 the facts don't change niyahow just cause the testing number sample changed.

The point is always ask an isaaq abtirso and then 'grab his awoowe' name and say ii tusiya duriyadina hahahaah and u will see hal xafad bay wada joggan in hargeisa or burco or some settled location. Wallahi waa naxaysa langaab isaaq. This is testing model where u can foresee this will be the same for all isaaq clans also hence u know what is settled is all u have. You are tiny bro, Your not more then 1 million. 700k hargeisa, 300k tuulos and burco and berbera.

Thats why my war on SL has went less over the years Have u noticed? I got bigger issues to fry inside Darod especially sade iyo ogaden

 

[Samaalism]

That's science. I want to do a test sxb to block ogaden/hawiye nomads cuz u r right, hawiye does export thru bosaso becuz beletwayn to hamar is to dangerous route to use. But we need a test that is acceptable to u and me and we observe the results. I am prepared for that are u

I am happy with that what will be the parameters.

Also I think it’s a really bad decision for puntland to be trying to build a port in garacad. You don’t have the money to build a proper port and the project will be made bankrupt. Soon majeerteen will fight over there own domestic market for shipping and fight each other.

Personally I think you should have spent the money upgrading bosaso to be able to take containers so berbera stops the karbash of your economy.

 

[Samaalism]

We are not counting Isaaq presence in DDSI, just in the official border of Somalia. I ain't bringing my wardheer niggas either, u can't too. Just seal the borders of Isaaq territories within Somalia bal aar ii tus hal niin isaaq abtirsi and I will show u how his awoowe and descendants are crammed into one city like burco or hargeisa. We must assume this is the sample rate for all. We can test it over a sample of 10, 100, 1000 the facts don't change niyahow just cause the testing number sample changed.

The point is always ask an isaaq abtirso and then 'grab his awoowe' name and say ii tusiya duriyadina hahahaah and u will see hal xafad bay wada joggan in hargeisa or burco or some settled location. Wallahi waa naxaysa langaab isaaq. This is testing model where u can foresee this will be the same for all isaaq clans also hence u know what is settled is all u have. You are tiny bro, Your not more then 1 million. 700k hargeisa, 300k tuulos and burco and berbera.

Thats why my war on SL has went less over the years Have u noticed? I got bigger issues to fry inside Darod especially sade iyo ogaden

Bro hargeisa is only nuux Ismail and reer gobdoon. No one else is degaan. No other isaaq claims hargeisa only business people and politicians and qorbajoog that aren’t those clans live there.

 

[Rationale]

This is rich coming from you mudane, who is notorious for the phrase "my father said".

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro hargeisa is only nuux Ismail and reer gobdoon. No one else is degaan. No other isaaq claims hargeisa only business people and politicians and qorbajoog that aren’t those clans live there.

If u want real tribal talk just abtirso. I can average out an awoowe generation for you and time-line Isaaq for you. Mind u there is no mention of him aqeeliyoon the arab sheikh linages, not a single tomb either is strange, not a single relative besides one son is strange in that old world. But if u did abtirsi I could find Isaaq most likely origin so u can find REAL family but without abtirsi it's pointless runti. Because I have to take into account maybe sheikh isaaq left yemen as the islamic world at that time travelled, you may find him in another location of the arab world but we need evidence this is serious shit to me bro.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This is rich coming from you mudane, who is notorious for the phrase "my father said".

His data point for an era as far as I am concerned and cannot be ignored, I wasn't alive in that 1960-1991 era. I am not saying how he describes events are 100% factual, it's a data point, if you can provide a data point evidence to contradict it, we can then apply the objective scientific method and look for evidence who's view point is correct. For example my dad says hawiye wa caawaan. U think I accepted that immediately? of course not, I just thought he was being insulting like Somalis are. I then saw the VIEW POINT he has correlate with the evidences of hawiye history. Hawiye destroyed Ajuuraan and then spend centuries living wild till colonials, they destroyed the somali govt in 91 also showing more correlation of being a clan who enjoys destruction. I saw correlation GM/HS is basically no govt and looks worse then PL in 92 era. I saw correlations hawiye agreed to no side can form a govt pact in 94-2004 which is what warlord era. Do u want me to continue the evidences that supports the viewpoint hawiye are animals or are u just going to respond 'dr osman uses the argument of his father' to discredit me? I am prepared for a challenge, I want the right account of Somalia or else there is no point solving it but I dont have the right partners in Somalia. Hence me and @PhySom are going to join the PIM movement of @PuntiteQueen

 

[Samaalism]

His data point for an era as far as I am concerned and cannot be ignored, I wasn't alive in that 1960-1991 era. I am not saying how he describes events are 100% factual, it's a data point, if you can provide a data point evidence to contradict it, we can then apply the objective scientific method and look for evidence who's view point is correct. For example my dad says hawiye wa caawaan. U think I accepted that immediately? of course not, I just thought he was being insulting like Somalis are. I then saw the VIEW POINT he has correlate with the evidences of hawiye history. Hawiye destroyed Ajuuraan and then spend centuries living wild till colonials, they destroyed the somali govt in 91 also showing more correlation of being a clan who enjoys destruction. I saw correlation GM/HS is basically no govt and looks worse then PL in 92 era. I saw correlations hawiye agreed to no side can form a govt pact in 94-2004 which is what warlord era. Do u want me to continue the evidences that supports the viewpoint hawiye are animals or are u just going to respond 'dr osman uses the argument of his father' to discredit me? I am prepared for a challenge, I want the right account of Somalia or else there is no point solving it but I dont have the right partners in Somalia. Hence me and @PhySom are going to join the PIM movement of @PuntiteQueen

Bro hawiye are great people and are not destructive. They’re just naive to munafaqada darood. There is no PIM happening Somaliland is joining somalia and we will establish a stong north south anchor irir era. We will build the tribal scaffolding that will make the south peaceful. We will make the oday daqameed worth something. Same way in the UK they gave the House of Lords we have gurti for our lords or sultans and aqils.

There is a new era coming to Somalia.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro hawiye are great people and are not destructive. They’re just naive to munafaqada darood. There is no PIM happening Somaliland is joining somalia and we will establish a stong north south anchor irir era. We will build the tribal scaffolding that will make the south peaceful. We will make the oday daqameed worth something. Same way in the UK they gave the House of Lords we have gurti for our lords or sultans and aqils.

There is a new era coming to Somalia.

That was actually another reason why I thought Hawiye is epicenter of Somalia problem. They couldn't even agree on the irir pact and that broke down, they have no knowledge of honoring pacts and agreements and the only plausible explanation is they came out of the bush when Keenadiid came to them. Remember 300 years ago they destroyed they're last govt the ajuuraan, they had 91 exodus and went back living life with no govt, this flows well into why keenadiid came and saw nothing but naked people. Remember they were naked because 'intermarriage' didn't exist at all, they were treated like some 'non somali'.

If u look at MJ names intermarriage is seen with DIR clans so they are REAL SOMALIS, but the same cannot be said of this Hawiye when the evidences are observed. Why can't he honor a pact or agreement? he tried it with irir, he tried it with usc and it turned into 'caga barar' wars which is called the 4 month war, it led into warlord era where they had another pact of no side can form a govt and warlord activities began. Then as soon as the govt was encroaching they go and become terrorists now creating the maxkamad islamiyah and this flowed into shabab the era we are in now.

These niggas dont want a govt sxb, they think they live better without one. Which is true in terms of casualties there is less conflict in hawiye when there is no govt, i can provide real life evidence to that in 99 there wasn't a clan war beyond warlord skermishes of checkpoints(which was important to them since checkpoints provided extortion of vehicles) but they're real bread n butter was bakaraha markets and that was under HG control, the warlord era didn't benefit abgaal from what I saw and they started to lose out in it. HG is the problem and Murusade not abgaal, they get no benefit out of no govt in all honesty abgaalku. Hawiye believe dawladu dhib bay ku gaban beeshooda and hence believe in no govt brings less wars since there nothing to fight over. Look at GM/HS they find it easier living with no govt then making a govt cuz it leads to bloodshed in hawiye like 4 month war ama caga barar. U don't know hawiye like I do anay abti ii yihin, ana jecel inay wax noqdan lakin runtana lagama cararo

Sxb you can't come to PL with hawiye is good people, your argument is weak and ppl will say war naga tag waxba nooma kordhinaysid, waa inaad wax soo kordhisa beyond hawiye is good and isaaq waa is raca iyo irir bala samayna it's useless academic work waxani u cant be university student with that sort of level mind, GOD BLESS DAROD NO WONDER WE LEAD