Puntites United Will Prevail. Enemies Fear it

DR OSMAN

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I am absolutely 100% sure of this, if we are united not only can we help ourselves and transform ourselves from where we were in 91 and what we inherited from Siyad Barre, we can help our neighbors reach the same milestones. Remember this saying from my own awoowe 'hadan anaga nabad helno, deriskeena way naga nabad galayan'. The meaning of this is 'if we are at peace, our neighbors will be at peace'. It's true and you know how I know it's true? I verified it. When-ever I hear a 'saying or mahmah' I always look to verify it with a real world example. Look at Djibouti, it's at peace with itself, do they come around and 'disturb' PL? NO. Do they help PL? NO. Do they help they're Irir cousins, yes, they bend over backwards for them.

I am not angry at that if he IRIR helping another Irir reach peace. But the moral of the story is your clan and region need to be at peace with itself first before you can even dare consider assisting your neighbors and then your wider nation. Has IRIR ever helped us Darods? never!!! as my dad says in his nugaal accent(he speaks like farole) war waxnee kama rabnee irirku, hadan amaan ka heli kari!!!! this isn't a bad principle to live by at all. My dad said he never heard in the history of PL or any Darod clan where IRIR has contributed to something positive for our clans except destruction or harm or setting us back 30 years in no governance.

They are Puntites of OLD are strong believer that your 'history' is good predictor of your future actions and behaviours.

My dad would say we always hear in the history and present it's always Darod who contributes goodness, progress, peace, governance, and Somalinimo towards Irir clans not the other way around, it's not vice versa or anything or anything mutually shared between clans according to my father version of history, he is of the assumption Darod are always trying to 'lift' these dead weight clans up for some reason through-out history and today, even to the expense of our well being.

My awoowe was a Nabadoon of PL, a real one, not a fake one so consider me 'third generation nabadoon' for a real clan family in PL. I can give you his name and the ISIMO who rule Garowe can verify him if you want. So I am not some NEW Puntite either but have deep historical roots in PL and my advice to Puntites is to KEEP the peace waryaa and progress, set an example to IRIR that you don't need to live your life 'undercutting and harming other clans and competing for nonsense' when your people are crying out for BASIC SERVICES.

Any basic service you leave on the land is a legacy for you, your name, and your clan survival. Bickering and arguing and FKD leaves no tangible services on the ground for your people and wasted they're time. This idea of FKD is supreme in Hawiye territories as I sat there wondering as 15 year old kid, why does our capital city look like it's been hit with a nuclear bomb twice lol, till I was told, it was 'abtiyasha' oo dagaal iyo muran dawladeed heerkasi magalada gaarsiiyay, from that day on, I felt some kind of 'shame' they are my 'abtiyaal' runti.

So I am protecting my last lifeline my 'adeerayaal and eedoyaal' in PL, luckily all my eggs are not in one basket or region like MOST people are in Somalispot hence they are very 'one sided towards their clan benefit' only.

We will send @PuntiteQueen @Gibiin-Udug As our Royal Princesses of PL to offer peace initiative to our enemies

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Do not worry Puntlanday, our enemies are shrinking as they all come to side with PL. The only enemy we have left is not even all Marehan, I got re-educated that REER GEDO are pro PL and Darod first after the 91. It's the reer diini clan who live in abudwaq who cut an unholy alliance with 'cayr' to undermine PL.

Even Sacad/Salebaan are more allied with PL then Cayr and Most Marehans are allied with PL over Reer diini Hawiye first agenda. So it's just Dhusomareeb and Abuudwaaq, it's not all HG nor All Sade who buy into this mind-set of 'lets cripple other clans' so we can move forward which is exactly wat the reer diini and cayr pact is. It's not about service delivery or enpowering sade or hg, it's about undermining Majerten.

Cayr made us fight twice in PL never forget this. It's historical. It can't be over-written. 92 Dahir aways made MJ split on al-itihaad and SSDF. MJ were fighting each other on two different idealogies, the body bags piled up in Bosaso, Garowe, and Galkacyo. I lost family members as my father informed me of the history. This left a sour taste in my mouth for 'cayr' and I said is this all you waste your time on? to bring down PL and not focus on CAYR empowerment? no wonder HG left these niggas. Didn't you see that nigga XAAF on TV crying and yellin to HG, he was gonna lay down 100k to build hobyo port and he wanted all HG to come together, but he said they never did. They prefer this idea of 'attacking other clans' sxb not empowering they're own people by building a deked in Hobyo.

Then these niggas came to us in 2001 with Jama ali Jama sent back Abdiqasim hassan Salat, what did it lead to? more body bags in PL. They only interfere in PL to cause war and bloodshed and remove any progress whatsoever, thankfully SACAD/SALEBAN realized this is horrendous policy by CAYR and cut they're baraxley and cadaado away from Dhusomareeb, till this day HG are divided about this matter. Some prefer self empowering HG by delivering basic services like XAAF and Cadaado are very progress orientated, but CAYR is very destructive orientated and believes success lies in 'destroying' other clan progresses.

PL is waiting for you waryaa CAYR BOY. Reer diini are no better who have been a thorn in the eyes of Kismaayo people, they believe in this destruction pact with CAYR. They believe the quickest route to success is to destroy the progress and peace of other clans. They are doing this now in JL.

Reer diini lost the support of Marehan in REAL LIFE, the only people who are pro sade are REER DIINI, they are not from other clans in Marehan as they have surrendered to PL vision of let every clan help himself first, self empower your people, deliver basic services, put your time/effort into something your kids can inherit rather then waste it in 'interfering' in other clan regions and sending them 'jambal' after 'jambal' to cause internal wars.

Saaxo Puntland below is an example of Sade saying f*ck REER DIINI VISION of destroying other clans to progress sade.


Wagardhac chose PL vision of CLANS NEED BASIC SERVICES, investment, progress, and clan building and self empowerment. We know where tit for tat and chasing each other around leads too, it leads to no asset inheritance for our next generation.
 

DR OSMAN

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I only now wish sacad and saleban bring south mudug and cadaado HOME TO PL. It's time to make the tough decision and do away with Cayr vision of 'lawlessness' and adopt PL vision of regional self empowerment. Rather then spent all your money, lives, and time on destroying other clans, spend it on building yourself up and passing something to your kids. It's a simple PL policy and it has won the hearts of all Somalis. It's called Federalism. I say Saleban/Sacad stop sitting there in this stalemate with this duli cayr, waxba idin ma soo wado. Marehanki way ka soo taageen reer diiniga sxb. The only one who holds onto this unholy alliance is reer diini and cayr noone else.
 

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I only now wish sacad and saleban bring south mudug and cadaado HOME TO PL. It's time to make the tough decision and do away with Cayr vision of 'lawlessness' and adopt PL vision of regional self empowerment. Rather then spent all your money, lives, and time on destroying other clans, spend it on building yourself up and passing something to your kids. It's a simple PL policy and it has won the hearts of all Somalis. It's called Federalism. I say Saleban/Sacad stop sitting there in this stalemate with this duli cayr, waxba idin ma soo wado. Marehanki way ka soo taageen reer diiniga sxb. The only one who holds onto this unholy alliance is reer diini and cayr noone else.
Why do do you want to unite with sacad iyo saleeban habar gidir the tribes of yajuuj and majuuj:williamswtf:
 

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Why do do you want to unite with sacad iyo saleeban habar gidir the tribes of yajuuj and majuuj:williamswtf:

We need to be level-headed and fair and not unjust. Cayr/Reer Diini have an unholy alliance called 'walalaha galgaduud'. This pact is to secure land in the south while undermining MJ in PL/JL thru many mechanism. Historically Cayr used the 'Islam' Card to divide us in PL around the 92 time perio under al-itihaad.

Cayr successfully turned two brothers and cousins on each other, one camp was Clannist idealogy SSDF vs Alitihaad the Islamist, a worldwide brotherhood idealogy. U fall into this camp waryaa wat the f*ck u talking about, your an Islamist.

This left hundreds of DEAD MJ lying on the streets of Bosaso, Garowe, Galkacyo and on the main highway as both camps fought each other. This was horrific and disgusting and a dark day in PL history. The only winner from this was Dahir Aways as he 'laffed' to the bank and said to his 'cayr' cousins 'war dhabayacadi iyaga is dilayane markan jambal yar oo caato ah hor dhigay oo quranka ah kkkk'.

This nigga then returned with Abdiqasim Hassan Salat in 2001 and sent Jama Ali Jama to oppose Abdillahi Yusuf Term extension, what did it lead too? More MJ body bags in Garowe and Bosaso. Cayr then 'laffed' again how they 'murked' out twice and got us to kill each other looooooool.

This reer diini c*nt then signed an unholy pact saying let's move south together united as a coalition. The Cayr inherited Marka/Barawe, while no matter what reer diini sell to the sade they LOST Kismaayo. Why?

Majerten hasn't lost an inch of land in history was working against the Reer diini clan, Kismayo ma aha 'merka iyo barawe' kkkkkk oo bimaal iyo waxasi joggo. It's populated and backed by literally the strongest clan in Somalia marki beel iyo beel loo eego dalka. So yes let's eliminate 'reer diini iyo cayr' but let's also be open to friendship with halal sade and halal hg who support our vision of regional self empowerment first and not conflict. Stay in your land is the rule, don't migrate to other lands and steal it and cause wars, this is the reer diini iyo cayr pact and why we will never be friends sxb untill they change this PACT or else it means we need to change our PACT of qabil walbo meeshisa ha joggo hana dhisto.
 
Are they dumar when another man instills his idealogy in them? Ma tashan karaan miyaa?ma gun baa? A man takes blame for his actions
"Boogeyman sade made me do it":snoop:
 

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Does anyone actually read this guy's essays?
:pachah1:

Only the Brave do. @Teeri-Alpha @Mckenzie @Libaaxseendheer. It's generally 'xanuun' weeye it's not suitable for all audiences ma garatay, I might have to set 'you need real balls to enter dr osman' threads ratings or go back to your 'my clan is better then your clan' argument for junkies in CAFE. This is real political talk deep between SIYASI level politicians, I am just exporting how my dad talks to his generation which is what I am applying to you guys and I am wipin the floor with you.

Plus your Abdi Isse, I count 17 to Osman Mahmoud, wat about you? I have relatives everywhere, 17 oday ayaanu abtirsada, can u imagine how many relatives will run towards the doctor in PL? just my first awoowe markan ku abtirsado ayaa 47 RAG NAHAY, ka waran markan awoowe labad sheego iyo meeqo ilmo adeero ii imanayo. LANDHEERE WAA KAA, I CAN WALK THE MIYI OF MUDUG ANIGO SANKA TAAGAYA.
 
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DR OSMAN

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My dad taught me qabiil so I am tribally fueled and prepared to defend the honor of my awooweyaal at all times waryaa, why? they gave me life, they fed me, they housed me, they gave me land, culture, religion, sultanates and big family network to survive on. It's my identity your trying to war with and I can see the GUMAYSI because I do Gumaysi so don't try to conquer a conquerer, its stupid of you and shows lack of foresight. Why would I throw all this out so I can satisfy your abdi issa ass that did nothing for me? waan is galayna waryaa waad og tahay is diyaari. @Crow

@Wiil_Facaye kkkkkk

My First Abtirsi is my father. Lets call him Ali. Markan magacisa bananka ka sheego waxaa soo cararaya keliya oo HIIL ah 2 wiil iyo hal gabar. Markan sheego abahay iyo ki dhalay second abtirsi, waxaa soo cararayo 47 Boys and 30 Eedo. U see how this gradually goes up and up in my abtirsi chain untill I cut it off at Hassan Yusuf? That is where my cut off is and responsibility. I can extend it further up untill DAROD, lakin hassan yusuf iyo beesha ayaa igu filan langaab ma ahi. I do have bah wadaag with 'sicid yusuf' though because we identified we come from the same mother, it's like habar gedir alliance kkkk.

@Wiil_Facaye I LOVE TOLKA KAMA JANO TAGI, IT'S MY INSURANCE IN LIFE. The only idiot who listens to Tribal knowledge from colonialist is 'cunts' who don't understand the purpose behind TRIBE. Sxb waxan ahay wiil la baray identitykisa, hence I will strong minded and not open for GUMAYSI LIKE MICHAEL MARIAMO. Facaye may hate the doctor on politics but he knows I am WARRIOR
 
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Thegoodshepherd

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Its true. MJ live in the least hospitable environment of the horn. Our land is the worst of any Somali clan, and yet we are the second largest subclan in numbers. This is a testament to the efficiency and resourcefulness of MJ. Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle combined have a smaller population than the dry scrubland and outright desert that are Nugaal and Bari. The main resource that MJ have at levels that other clans do not have is a level of qabyaalad that seems fanatical. This strong sense of asabiyyah is what has kept us in competition with other clans that have access to resources we could not dream of.

If we had a single gobol with a river, we would have ruled all of Somalia with an iron fist. Unfortunately we live in a desert.

:kodaksmiley::francis:
 

DR OSMAN

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Its true. MJ live in the least hospitable environment of the horn. Our land is the worst of any Somali clan, and yet we are the second largest subclan in numbers. This is a testament to the efficiency and resourcefulness of MJ. Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle combined have a smaller population than the dry scrubland and outright desert that are Nugaal and Bari. The main resource that MJ have at levels that other clans do not have is a level of qabyaalad that seems fanatical. This strong sense of asabiyyah is what has kept us in competition with other clans that have access to resources we could not dream of.

If we had a single gobol with a river, we would have ruled all of Somalia with an iron fist. Unfortunately we live in a desert.

:kodaksmiley::francis:

How having a river and farms translate to power, I am not sure. I would assume you would go thru the european phase of 'fuedal lords and peasantry' class. So it would be ISIMO at the top being land owners and then all the clans-men just farming and taking orders in return for food no real land ownership or else the land owners lose they're value in the society.

There is no real wealth generation in a fuedal society bro, it just creates 99% peasantry and 1% rich. Is this assumption of greenery environment and power even provable, I've yet to see any tangible evidence. In-fact, the poorest class of people in Somalia then to be from cities who are 'green' and they're in IDP camps.

Infact they were always poor even during the Somali union as my father said they're situation was always identical. I assume it's they're farming and river location and time wasting on unproductive occupation has ensured they're descendants do not inherit mass wealth.

The only theory that I accept for farming that is provable is civilizations tend to start from farming communities, this is very true and is observable world wide with civilizations all being close to a river. There is some proof desert areas can become civilizations like the Petra Nabatean structures but this isn't observed across the world and may have been one 'hit' wonder situation.

Why you think farming makes one rich bro? I think this idea resonated back in the 60's thru 'brand' building the south over the north for 'govt' investment. Anywhere in Somalia would've become the no 1 city in the nation if it recieved the necessary infrastructure and services and work opportunities, people would've migrated from all Somalia to get jobs and a new life. The only reason the south prospered is technically thru SOMALIA, before that, it's observable what they were without the assistance of all Somalis. It's also observable since the Somali govt left them what they turned out to be. They are literally living in our idp camps in PL thinking they can secure a better life there then they're PLUSH GREEN RIVER BRAND BUILDING NONSENSE.

I am warrior waryaa but I also concede to facts, but this south is janno because of rivers and farming isn't backed by hard evidence.
 

DR OSMAN

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Its true. MJ live in the least hospitable environment of the horn. Our land is the worst of any Somali clan, and yet we are the second largest subclan in numbers. This is a testament to the efficiency and resourcefulness of MJ. Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle combined have a smaller population than the dry scrubland and outright desert that are Nugaal and Bari. The main resource that MJ have at levels that other clans do not have is a level of qabyaalad that seems fanatical. This strong sense of asabiyyah is what has kept us in competition with other clans that have access to resources we could not dream of.

If we had a single gobol with a river, we would have ruled all of Somalia with an iron fist. Unfortunately we live in a desert.

:kodaksmiley::francis:

You are right Puntites are tribally fanatic but some are 'tamed' by reason/intellect/cooperation while others can be quite 'unhinged' tribalism. I am definitely not among the type that is just wildly tribal but I also am not of the type that I will disregard my whole identity and ancestors to satisfy you or your 'new brainwashing scheme of Somalinimo'. I know who helped me survive and get me to the point I am now and it surely wasn't you or your Somalinimo idealogy. Plus I have deep love for my ancestors, I have sense of duty that I carry they're name on and ensure it prospers not dies out like so many societies have become. I don't want to become like Hamar where they sing turkish songs in turkish schools in mogadishu, where in the world have u seen aussies singing somali songs at schools in australia, wallahi GOBTA australianka way ujeedan waxad soo wadiid waa dhaqan ka badelid. How do aussies know this? they preserve they're history that's why, southerners tend to disregard they're own history as they join the new wave conquerer societies. Arabs first, that's why u see them speaking arabic in ibn batuta book, then it was ITALY, that's why u see old hamaris still love italian ways. Then it was DAROD ERA thru SAYIDKA IYO SYL IYO SIYAD BARRE, they hated this the most the SOMALI IDENTITY and now they're back to singing amisom, unsom, turkish, waxayna sheegayeen in eritrea hada la keenayo in dhaqan kale lagu beero.

U want me to become like that bro? what stops that is my abtirsi and when i enquire about it with my father, when I go to garowe and raise my camels with my relatives who teach me my history ayaa iga dhigayo niin magac iyo sumcad leh oo equal ah in aduunka.
 
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