Puntites 2021 Election Strategem

[DR OSMAN]

Puntites we need to discuss our strategem which means we need to know the 'outcome' based on 'pure strategy' and where it will finish before the election even happens. I suggest we should agree in principle that this 4.5 clan communism is not working in our favor nor is it a legitimate govt where 'elbur ppl' has 7 mps and Majerten has 12 MPs. Yet Majerten is 3.5 million bare minimum when you take into consideration our land, settlements, nomads and it's provable using garissa as 'template' for all to see what they get for that portion of 'goof'.

But the liklihood this clan communism is going to end is unlikely this election, but we must not participate in any more elections that are unrealistic about Somalia nation. Wiil Murusade inu 7 MP helo waa ayaan daro ku tusinayso clan shuuci is just going to keep the nation hostile at all times cause a clan got more then he deserves while another clan didn't get what he deserves, that's all it leads too, waa sal balaarsi loo sameeye langaabka iyago is-leh inu dalka uu fican tahay. Which it's not, the nation just want what is rightfully theirs not more not less. Garissa template is enough evidence for them to go back to their land, measure their goof against garissa and work out their population with confidence while also giving us confidence that they got their fair share and this leads to no more 'anomosity'. War anigu somalinimo uma arki salbalaarsi loo sameeyo dad langaab ah, iyo somalinimo uma arki in salbalaarsi loo sameeyo landheer, I believe u get what u deserve using the same 'system' of powersharing.

I will even tanasul on the fact not all gobols n district are even the 'same' for example I will accept that Galdogob and Harardheere get their 3 MPS. When I know in reality gooftooda wuxu ka yar yahay tuulo kamid ah PL oo aan haysan 'degmo' lakin for the sake of 91 filibuster rule and no census, I will accept if u had a degmo assigned to u by siyad for whatever fucked up reason he did it for cause it surely wasn't following the rule of law when u see harardheere-galdogob which are literally tuulos getting district allocation. I don't know where siyad got the idea hamar to galkacyo gets 4 states but PL gets 2.

The uneveness in how he allocated this shit shows it was pure kanagaroo shit based on no sort of rule of law or best practises in district or region zoning. It was pure mickey mouse stuff that's why it's s un-even nation wide. Are u telling Badhan which is massive goof is the same as 'galdogob or harardheere'? wat sort of mechanism did u follow when u came to that conclusion 'afwayne' kkkk. Odaygu 'cadifad' ayuu wax ku bixin jirey not the rule of law at all. But with a Majerten leader rule of law will return and the institution of langaab and landheer will be installed as it works for all.

But back to our strategem for Somalia casino parliament kkkk and yes it's a damn casino that u play 'gambling' while the quran and culuma are 'praying' it's a dens' of hell niyahow but we must work with what we have. These ppl have no shame whatsoever. But I say we need to field a range of abgaals not just one 'sided' that is pro pl like 'geedi' kkkk they already know that and we all know the outcome will be 'strong pl first pm like farole' while we got the 'hag' we wanted in presidency. The reason the PM role is desired the most is, you don't need to 'risk' your worst candidate being selected for presidency, you 'kalumaysi' on the other clan and select who u think is best for them, while u call his ass to PL and u tell him 'u demand a strong man majerten' as PM. The other reason we like abgaal is they are 'easy' to work with barr 'wacaysle who is 'nacas' reer mudug and has 'cuqdad' of the 'large' omar mahmoud 'goof 50,000 SQ KM' compared to his little 9000 SQ km kkkk.

But anyways lets at all times beware that we do not want HSM in power and I don't think he want 'power' watsoever he just wants to 'add agendas and xaa cuna' on the 'candidate' that is pushed which most likely will be 'geedi' from what I am seeing. He can pull in JL/PL no doubt about it, it's done deal. The question is how he pulls in 'abgaal/hg' and within abgaal he is going to struggle as his not popular at all but this man is 'shrewd' he knows how to 'appeal' to their 'xaa cuna' mindset and will guarantee them 'contracts and positions' that are lucrative to them, he needs to appeal to abgaal business ppl in hamar and tell em of 'contracts' that will come if selected. He will deal with their 'xaa cuna' mind cause he knows them, he is one of them.

The question comes down to rahanwayn, that is large voting bloc that we never get, we need to extend our coalition deep there and use their 'trade' benefits in PL as 'string' to pull on them, but they are very much from what I seen in the past only 'swing' their votes to whoever is leading candidate in darod-hawiye, they prefer this strategy of 'sharif saakin' to wait it out and when they agree hag/darod they just 'take thier bribe' from the leading candidate, i think they fear starting off on a bad foot with the govt especially if you supported against them which cud mean problems in govt for their clan.

As for the 'abgaal' we gotta get them to use the 'chimp out' threat and tell the international community 'niin aan abgaal ahayn kama talin karo' hamar but they may respond well 'why didnt u do that in the last 8 years' so that may have been 'milked' to much for it to be believable anymore.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

How many seats do MJ have? I feel sick whenever I think about the fact that Abdulahi Yusuf asked us and Absame to give 2 seats each to Marehan. Which halyeey will get our seats back?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

How many seats do MJ have? I feel sick whenever I think about the fact that Abdulahi Yusuf asked us and Absame to give 2 seats each to Marehan. Which halyeey will get our seats back?

Absame gave 3 seats, from 15 to 12, Mj gave 2 seats, from 14 to 12

marehan went from 9 seats to 14 seats because cabdullahi yusuf knew they will go towards hawiye, in fact they threatened to give their votes to hawiye unless it was increased for them, Ogaden and Majerteen being the idiots they are relented and gave to their black mail only to be stabbed in the back by buuns thinking a buun can be reformed



Absame has and lives in 13 districts in jibaland and 3 in South-west satte- bakool to be exact where Cawlyahan Ogaden get 3 out of the 6 degmos in bakool, calwyahan has 12 regional Mps in south west state

buun only get 3 degmos out of 6 in gedo and couple, degmos in galgaduud

we should aim to get back the seast we lost sicne buuns broke the original deal of not voting for hawiye leaders,

they broke it in letter and spirit of the agreement

we did this agreement when cabdullahi came to Ogaden in nairobi and begged Ogaden to give their seats

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

How many seats do MJ have? I feel sick whenever I think about the fact that Abdulahi Yusuf asked us and Absame to give 2 seats each to Marehan. Which halyeey will get our seats back?

I've never heard of majerteen and ogaden giving Marehan any seats, it's actually a nonsensical claim if you think about it.

Why give anyone else your representation if you could keep it yourself?

I am curious though since this obviously seems to affect you to the extent that it makes you 'sick' to think about it as you said.

Do you have a single source for this ridiculous claim? I don't want two sources, just one will suffice.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Absame gave 3 seats, from 15 to 12, Mj gave 2 seats, from 14 to 12

marehan went from 9 seats to 14 seats because cabdullahi yusuf knew they will go towards hawiye, in fact they threatened to give their votes to hawiye unless it was increased for them, Ogaden and Majerteen being the idiots they are relented and gave to their black mail only to be stabbed in the back by buuns thinking a buun can be reformed



Absame has and lives in 13 districts in jibaland and 3 in South-west satte- bakool to be exact where Cawlyahan Ogaden get 3 out of the 6 degmos in bakool, calwyahan has 12 regional Mps in south west state

buun only get 3 degmos out of 6 in gedo and couple, degmos in galgaduud

we should aim to get back the seast we lost sicne buuns broke the original deal of not voting for hawiye leaders,

they broke it in letter and spirit of the agreement

we did this agreement when cabdullahi came to Ogaden in nairobi and begged Ogaden to give their seats

Thank god that MJs + Absame are already 24 plus Carab Salax, Dashishe and others that can be trusted. Those traitors are no threat to us as subclans let alone if we continue to stand together.

Btw, how much of Gedo belongs to Absame?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

just before 2004 elections,

I do not see why Ogaden had to respect cabdullahi yusuf, they should have told him to get lost, why did we give 3 seat and Mj only gave 2 seats ?

this is the problem with Ogaden always pleasing shishey fucking idiots,

they should have demanded more seats for themselves,

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

just before 2004 elections,

I do not see why Ogaden had to respect cabdullahi yusuf, they should have told him to get lost, why did we give 3 seat and Mj only gave 2 seats ?

this is the problem with Ogaden always pleasing shishey fucking idiots,

they should have demanded more seats for themselves,

I heard MJs away another seat to a Harti clan?

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I heard MJs away another seat to a Harti clan?

i dont concern neither know harti affairs, its possible but Absame has 12 today thanks to trying to please yusuf and buuns and Mj have 12

this is wrong, Absame has 16 degmos in somalia, its very wrong

 

[DR OSMAN]

i dont concern neither know harti affairs, its possible but Absame has 12 today thanks to trying to please yusuf and buuns and Mj have 12

this is wrong, Absame has 16 degmos in somalia, its very wrong

Now now absame calm down and don't get carried away, we know your a staunch federalist and 'district' power sharing 'advocate' and not this clan communism of 4.5 which was 'architectured' by you know who? abdirahman shakuur kkkkk, it actually says that on his twitter profile that was his positive 'legacy' on the nation that he created this horrendous gentleman agreement on 'clan communism' and yes it's what i call it, as communism is about equalizing the people not on merit or class since it rejects class whatsoever kkkk it suits 'republican type' nation, it simply can't work in class based aristocratic sultanates since 'class' is above all else not so much 'ethnicity, race'. Ethnicity n race develop from a class-less society, waa peasants is racay and they begin to discriminate each other on identity like u see in america.

The reason for it is, it's class-less society due to their revolt on queen lizzy crown territories, they started in 'looting' and i suspect they will fall to 'looting' also as they didn't work with the aristocrats and monarchy to forge a 'new state' based in principle like australia-canada respecting the monarchy in england and their founding of the nation but asking for a govt that 'serves' the people not 'eliminate the queen' like happened in america which was one off thing in history it wasn't common pattern world wide at all. They then called themselve the 'ppl' kkk by the 'ppl' for the 'ppl'. Why use that term? they clearly wanted no 'class' but 'citizen' system kkk when they knew full well they were 'peasants' and didn't want to be reminded of the old world 'class system' and u see the same in Somalia who hate talking about own class system developed thru clan identity that reports to isimo(aristocrats) that represents the monarchy(sultans, boqor, ugaases, etc)

I argue and all monarchist do 'people are classes' like merchants, aristocrats, farmers, nomads, teachers, religious class, there is always 'class' system involved and this idea there is no 'class' but just the 'ppl' was quite a new idea that has worked for america but hasn't worked for any other society whatsoever who are still coming to grips with this idea of 'equality' thru citizenship and not thru previous historical institutions such as sultanates. It's a horrendous idea for Somalis and they should not follow in the footsteps of americans but in the footstep of 'australia' a constituional monarchy where the state is representive of the queen and aristocrats, a system like that is far more realistic in somalia then the 'republic' they have now which their still struggling to come to terms with that there is no borders, no class, no history, no aristocracy and all power is based on the people 'classless' of course like the american system kkkk

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Thank god that MJs + Absame are already 24 plus Carab Salax, Dashishe and others that can be trusted. Those traitors are no threat to us as subclans let alone if we continue to stand together.

Btw, how much of Gedo belongs to Absame?

Cawlyahan Ogaden get Mps from 3 out of 6 degmos in gedo and have always done so since 1960

even though siad barre robbed calwyahan bardere and gave it to buuns, cawlyahan refused to fight back like mohamed zubeer when they fought the buuns in kismayo and afmadow between 1987-1991

the UN even demanded from ahmed madoobe that bardere only goes to cawlyahan an OG sub clan since siad barre robbed it from them and then used the river to flood the cawlyahan side of bardere to even make sure they leave

out of the 6 districts in gedo, uuns only used to get Mps for 3 of them, because cawlyahan are not like Mohamed zubeer, they are more maskiin like and keep quite , buuns have propgated this fake thing they own whole of gedo

heck, even gadson, eley and garre gets seats and used to get seats from marehan half of gedo in the 1960s/70s till siad barre killed them or pushed them towards libaan region in DDS

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad u don't see me as a 'citizen sxb based on republicanism' the problem is if I come to badhaadhe and settle down u will say 'excuse me' did u forget your 'status and clan' u will disregard the 'somali republic and citizenship' and revert to aristocracy immediately hence you hold onto this aristocrat culture that preserves the institution of sultans and their aristocrats, u will clash with the nationalist and somali crowd saying this isn't goof somaliyeed and they will argue 'constitution' says it is and u see the problem? they drafted a very foreign constitution that doesn't sit well with it's people nor it's history, waa dastur meel kale ka timi oo la rabo in lagu dhaqo

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad however watch this 'twist' if I send my bah dubays aristocrat(oday dhaqan) to meet the absame oday dhaqan and we cut a deal and ask our sultan and boqor to 'endorse' it, u won't see a problem now. So it's not a clannism purely for the sake of 'clan' like aborigines-hg-isaaq, it's u want us to go thru the 'protocols of sultanates' at all time not thru 'govt by peasasts for peasants in mogadishu' dictating what happens in badhaadhe.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad our clannism is there purely based on preserving our sultans and oday dhaqameed(aristocrats), it's not existing in a vacuum space preserving nothing but 'clan' which is meaningless then, due to our sophisticated culture niyahow it developed a class system, that is one of the indicators of a sophisticated society when there is heirachy-class-kingdom-noble-ignoble and so forth, where-as u won't see this level of sophistication in aborigines whatsoever since it wasn't an 'advanced' culture whatsoever. Why u think we criticise HG, there is no heirachy-class system-noble-ignoble, they all exist like a pack of animals, there is no sophistication in their clannism it's pure neaderthal type

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad

A republic (Latin: res publica, meaning "public affair") is a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter", not the private concern or property of the rulers. ... It has become the opposing form of government to a monarchy and has therefore no monarch as head of state

That means bro your absame sultan has no say whatsoever now, he has been dethroned and his jurisdiction isn't legally bounding and some 'nacas' like sade has jurisdiction over u, surely u see the problem in republic and our old world system which by the way is still in all our 'hearts' if it wasn't then it wouldn't be difficult to 'ignore' it but it's there and still very powerful institution on the land yet this shitty ass constitution tries to 'ignore' that lol. Wa dad raba inay awooda uu wareejiyan shacabka which is fine to do that with the 'royal decree' of the aristocrats and monarchies at all times, not outside their control hence this govt needs to declare that on the constitution that they are not here on their own 'will' but here due to 'ancient sultanates' passing royal decree to create a govt that 'serves' the people only and the head of state is the 'sultanates' not this naflacari in villa somalia. Naflacars having full unrestricted power is not wise choice in my opinion

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad

A republic (Latin: res publica, meaning "public affair") is a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter", not the private concern or property of the rulers. ... It has become the opposing form of government to a monarchy and has therefore no monarch as head of state

That means bro your absame sultan has no say whatsoever now, he has been dethroned and his jurisdiction isn't legally bounding and some 'nacas' like sade has jurisdiction over u, surely u see the problem in republic and our old world system which by the way is still in all our 'hearts' if it wasn't then it wouldn't be difficult to 'ignore' it but it's there and still very powerful institution on the land yet this shitty ass constitution tries to 'ignore' that lol. Wa dad raba inay awooda uu wareejiyan shacabka which is fine to do that with the 'royal decree' of the aristocrats and monarchies at all times, not outside their control hence this govt needs to declare that on the constitution that they are not here on their own 'will' but here due to 'ancient sultanates' passing royal decree to create a govt that 'serves' the people only and the head of state is the 'sultanates' not this naflacari in villa somalia. Naflacars having full unrestricted power is not wise choice in my opinion

i know bro, it feels like the greatest and most dangerous ideas every brought by communists/socialist is to hate on monarchies like Jubaland Kingdom and King Wiil Waal Kingdom -first official darood kingdom created and, Sultan Ahmed Magan and Sultan Magan Yusuf and Ugaas Nuur cubudiye Ugaasdom - these old kings of ours are repsobsle for creating eh biggest land owned by own ethnic group- the Absame Kumade ethnic group in the whole of africa, we even have more land than the oromo or yuroba of nigeria, we conquered so much land as other somalis slept on the when and it was done under kings, not bloody presidents or fake so called republics

the langabs, m1dgaans, moryaans, small peasants hate royal rulership for they are owned, so they created this anti royal agenda

notice how i even call the Absame race an ethnic group, heck i dont even want to be associated with daroods let alone somalis, because when Allah has made yuo a great power superior house/nation, you do not need lanagbs for you develop the mindset of kingdoms/kings, royalty,

No wonder, why the British offered the Sayid to become the king of the somalis, of course he was going to be a superior Ogaden/Absame man, what other langab would they pick?


This is me in xamar, heck forget Hawo Tako,a female who showed the hawiye how to rise up and fight against the italins, look at King wiil waal, Raage ugaas, father of somali shakespeare/peoms, he was a prince, grandson of Ugaas Xirsi, 1750s was his heyday

Qamaan bulxaan, ciigaal shidad, mataan ciided, somalia made statues for them in the 1960s or named them after raods, schools, highays

one single ethnic group, the Absame, dominates somali hisotry, even the MJ/hawiye in charge in 1960 could not get a single Mj/hawiye for hisotry and created the satues for 100% of them being Absame

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I am Somali history, what is somali history but a Jidwaq/Ogaden -Absame history

we are like the Greeks/Romans to the Somalis, the grandfathers,

the MJ/ and maybe Abgal are like the recent Europeans/French, very recent but their entire foundation is geek/roman, jut like Mj can say we are the fathers, well they forget who the grandfather is

cigaal shidaad - an Cawlyahan Ogaden was writing history about his travels, the somali Gulliver in 1600s

behold, the man who gave us the story of Carawiilo the evil queen in 1670s story and many others used today as children stories

King wiil waal,

 

[DR OSMAN]

I am Somali history, what is somali history but a Jidwaq/Ogaden -Absame history

we are like the Greeks/Romans to the Somalis, the grandfathers,

the MJ/ and maybe Abgal are like the recent Europeans/French, very recent but their entire foundation is geek/roman, jut like Mj can say we are the fathers, well they forget who the grandfather is

cigaal shidaad - an Cawlyahan Ogaden was writing history about his travels, the somali Gulliver in 1600s

behold, the man who gave us the story of Carawiilo the evil queen in 1670s story and many others used today as children stories

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King wiil waal,



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We need to store all this in museums as of immediate so we can demonstrate we had literature and culture and were far removed from 'uncivilized'. We must preserve our theater with our sultanates achievements in war like habash one and the european scramble and show how we inherited new dominions in GM n JL. We must present shows thru theater were we can visit a reliving of those 'stories' of our ancestors for what is a people without a past is very relevant because you are now in the present and u can't talk about a future because it's still hasn't arrived so for people to work out what u r, they will look at your past and unfortunately we are not doing that outside the 'republican somali nationalism' and disregarding everything before then following in the footsteps of 'republicans' they got u in their trap sxb as you can not 'declare' your 'separate' history as they want u to start on 'sayidka' only kkk so u contribute to their idealogy that somali are all equal citizens ha coynin marka badhaadhe uu HG yimado oo yirahdo 'warheedhe dhulka somali ba leh' and u start crying 'oh my ancestor and sultanates' for i honor u and reject this republican asshole that has dethroned u for 'nationalism'

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Farjano-Walad they don't want you to speak of any history prior to 'somalinimo' which is the fascist-quasi project of 'republicans' to over-throw the 'long-cherished' sultanates, they used the 'somali-diid' card on them if they 'spoke out' and said you lack 'jurisdiction' over this territory that falls under my dominion based on history, sometimes they wud lock them up or exile them. Republican means the public and land is all under the 'naflacari' who is in power which means u go up n down with their cycle and u have no check n balance against it since all power is with the 'villa' kkkkkk. I urge u to speak about 'separate ogaden' history and honor your ancestors and watch the somali nationalist start to 'walk away' from u meaning they want u to 'spread the somali gospel' and 'deny' your history at it's expense. If u r willing to do that it's great and many darods did 'trade' off their history to 'protect and enforce' somalinimo for it to backfire on us only.

Now the monarchist 'flavor' i believe is gaining 'rapid' support and good time to get together as one coalition promoting the monarch as head of state and the villa as his representative god. We just want a representative god and power vested in the monarchs, they can run the country but they won't over-ride the monarch jurisdictions kkkkk

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Farjano-Walad they don't want you to speak of any history prior to 'somalinimo' which is the fascist-quasi project of 'republicans' to over-throw the 'long-cherished' sultanates, they used the 'somali-diid' card on them if they 'spoke out' and said you lack 'jurisdiction' over this territory that falls under my dominion based on history, sometimes they wud lock them up or exile them. Republican means the public and land is all under the 'naflacari' who is in power which means u go up n down with their cycle and u have no check n balance against it since all power is with the 'villa' kkkkkk. I urge u to speak about 'separate ogaden' history and honor your ancestors and watch the somali nationalist start to 'walk away' from u meaning they want u to 'spread the somali gospel' and 'deny' your history at it's expense. If u r willing to do that it's great and many darods did 'trade' off their history to 'protect and enforce' somalinimo for it to backfire on us only.

Now the monarchist 'flavor' i believe is gaining 'rapid' support and good time to get together as one coalition promoting the monarch as head of state and the villa as his representative god. We just want a representative god and power vested in the monarchs, they can run the country but they won't over-ride the monarch jurisdictions kkkkk

this is why deep down i want this fake somalia to die, I need my kingdom back, the kingdom of Jubaland created by Ogaden kings

we need Majertenia back, dhulbahante, etc, about from harti and Absame, other somalis do not have a history to be honest, it begins in 1960 or 1991

we have been at civil war for over 30 years , why are we wasting time with this fake republic?

dude get your kingdom back in puntland, make her a country insha Allah, we will get back the kingdom of South Ogaden Kingdom of Jubaland,

 

[DR OSMAN]

this is why deep down i want this fake somalia to die, I need my kingdom back, the kingdom of Jubaland created by Ogaden kings

we need Majertenia back, dhulbahante, etc, about from harti and Absame, other somalis do not have a history to be honest, it begins in 1960 or 1991

we have been at civil war for over 30 years , why are we wasting time with this fake republic?

dude get your kingdom back in puntland, make her a country insha Allah, we will get back the kingdom of South Ogaden Kingdom of Jubaland,

Ogaden has a rich history when colonials came they called it 'ogadeniya' meaning it was at the same status as majerteniya and makhir in their eyes not 'italian somaliland or british somaliland' meaning they had nothing. Hence these clans will not support u if u speak anything about your separate past except the idealogy u brought them and they want u inside of that and starting your history from that also so when ur kids and descendants look at history they will think u were all the same kkkkkk and had the same start kkkkk their will be no class system and everything is pure somali citizenship including 'your land' kkkkk.

Mark my words if u dont believe this notice how they 'cried' when u said 'ogadeniya' kkkk wax ka muuqdo tarikhda lama ogolo kkk xitaa magacasi lama ogolo ama wax ka baxsan 'somali' since they want u to join their naked futo in this republican movement and will u call blue blood aristocrat and land barron or all the evil names peasants called the royals of england in order to overthrow a society based on history/heritage/status/class/lineage/culture for a society merely based on 'citizenship' on 'land' go figure your worth is determined by being simply born on the land not your history under republican idealogy so this helps them create classless society eventually since citizenship is simply given based on somali or based on were u born in the nation under this villa somalia boqortoyo who will automatically upgrade your status under somalinimo while the old aristocracy slowly is mocked as ancient.backward/qabiil and all sorts of shit such 'kabo qabiil' is what hawiye called them under italians kkkk relegating their ass due to italians saying im 'your royal' kkkkk where as we said we equally royal in majerteniya and got a street named after us