Prophet Musa (Moses) عليه صلاة سلام as black-skinned and kinky-haired.

techsamatar

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@Garaad Awal Since you keep running away from every thread I ask you in the same question of whether you reject or accept Sahih Hadiths and narrations of the Prophet, I want to expose your hidden Kufr and sick heart due to your white worship and mockery and slandering the deen as hotep which can only mean you reject the Prophets Of Allah Due to their Blackness.

You either Accept it to which ends up to you accepting defeat and admitting you spoke without knowledge that the original Arabs who are from same lineage and cousins of Musa/Israelites where also Shades/Levels of Black.

Or You reject the Below Sahih Hadiths which only means you reject the saying of the prophet and accusing him of being Liar and Hotep, to which Your plain Kafir.

Pick one.

Last time asking this Do you Garaad Awal Reject or Accept these descriptions of Musa Ibn Imran a Pure semite and Cousin of the Original Arabs.


Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal related in his musnad (3365) the following description that the Messenger ﷺ gave of Musa’s colour:

وَرَأَيْتُ مُوسَى أَسْحَمَ آدَمَ

“Musa was jet-black skinned.”

Muslim relates in his Sahih (239 and 243) that Ibn Abbas said that the Messenger ﷺ described Musa’s appearance as follows:

َأَمَّا مُوسَى فَرَجُلٌ آدَمُ جَعْدٌ

As for Musa, he was black-skinned and kinky-haired. (hadith 243)

قَالَ ذَكَرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حِينَ أُسْرِيَ بِهِ فَقَالَ مُوسَى آدَمُ طُوَالٌ كَأَنَّهُ مِنْ رِجَالِ شَنُوءَةَ

He (Ibn Abbas) said that the prophet (ﷺ) mentioned the time he was ascended to the Heavens and he said that Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and tall as if he was from the tribe of Shanua. (hadith 239)

If anyone has the anthropological history of the Shauna tribe, they are a historic Yemeni tribe of the original stock Arabs, and they are undoubtedly black Arabs.

Regarding the ayah of Allah who said in suratul-‘Araf:

وَنَزَعَ يَدَهُ فَإِذَا هِيَ بَيْضَاء لِلنَّاظِرِينَ

And he drew forth his hand (from his bosom): and lo! it was white for the beholders. [al-‘Araf- verse 108]

al-Qurtubi says in his tafsir of the verse:

وكان موسى أسمر شديد السمرة

Musa (Moses) was black-skinned.

at-Tabari says about this ayah

وكان موسى، فيما ذكر لنا، آدم، فجعل الله تحول يده بيضاء من غير برص، له آية

According to what we were told, Musa (Moses) was black-skinned and Allah made Musa’s hand turning white, without being affected by leprosy, a sign for him.

al-Baydawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

روي : أنه عليه السلام كان آدم شديد الأدمة ، فأدخل يده في جيبه أو تحت إبطه ثم نزعها فإذا هي بيضاء نورانية غلب شعاعها شعاع الشمس

It is related that Musa (alayhi salam) was jet-black-skinned. He put his hand in his pocket or under his armpit and took it out and it was white.

al-Baghawi says in his tafsir of the verse:

وكان موسى آدم ، ثم أدخلها جيبه فصارت كما كانت

Musa was black-skinned. Then (after withdrawing his hand from his pocket white) he put his hand back in his pocket and it turned back to the color that it was.

Tafseer Al Baydhaawy Chapter 3 page 29

Verily (Musa) alayhi Asalaam was Adaam shadeed Al Udmah jet black.

تفسير البيضاوي ج 3 ص 27

روي: انه علي السلام كان ادم شديد الادمة.
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techsamatar

I put Books to the Test of Life
What are you trying to prove waryaa?
Some prophets were black. Moses we know for sure, there are also many others.
This Jahil has been dodging this, He slanders and ridiculous description of prophets as hotep even when shown sheikhs who aren't even black admitting Ubaid ibn Samit Pure Arab companion was black skinned.

Will this period of white worship result in people inadvertently committing kufr? Will they reject all Israelite prophets, including Musa ibn Imran, because they were shades of black? How can you reasonably accept Musa being described as black while rejecting the narrations and descriptions of the original arabs as well as members of the prophet's family?

What Different are they to Iblees who refused to Prostrate due to his pride to Adam who was made from extremely dark-brown Mud.

"And surely We created man of sounding clay, of black mud fashioned into shape. And the jinn, We created before of intensely hot fire. And when thy Lord said to the angels: I am going to create a mortal of sounding clay, of black mud fashioned into shape. So when I have made him complete and breathed into him of My spirit, fall down making obeisance to him."�Holy Qur�an, Surah 15, verses 26-29
 
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techsamatar

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@CurrentlyOnline, when pursuing knowledge, be cautious not to emulate those who let their desires or treat the Deen as a secondary or last resort. They prioritize Kafir Guesswork over our preserved narrations and historical facts, spanning the history of people and races to our collective origins.

Consider Kafir guesses as a secondary source, with added merit if it aligns with Islamic historical narrations, lending it greater credibility. Disregard your feelings and your opinions, The truth is all that matters.
 
This Jahil has been dodging this, He slanders and ridiculous description of prophets as hotep even when shown sheikhs who aren't even black admitting Ubaid ibn Samit Pure Arab companion was black skinned.

Will this period of white worship result in people inadvertently committing kufr? Will they reject all Israelite prophets, including Musa ibn Imran, because they were shades of black? How can you reasonably accept Musa being described as black while rejecting the narrations and descriptions of the original arabs as well as members of the prophet's family?

What Different are they to Iblees who refused to Prostrate due to his pride to Adam who was made from extremely dark-brown Mud.

"And surely We created man of sounding clay, of black mud fashioned into shape. And the jinn, We created before of intensely hot fire. And when thy Lord said to the angels: I am going to create a mortal of sounding clay, of black mud fashioned into shape. So when I have made him complete and breathed into him of My spirit, fall down making obeisance to him."�Holy Qur�an, Surah 15, verses 26-29
He believes no black prophets existed? What an ignorant belief to hold!
 
@CurrentlyOnline, when pursuing knowledge, be cautious not to emulate those who let their desires or treat the Deen as a secondary or last resort. They prioritize Kafir Guesswork over our preserved narrations and historical facts, spanning the history of people and races to our collective origins.

Consider Kafir guesses as a secondary source, with added merit if it aligns with Islamic historical narrations, lending it greater credibility. Disregard your feelings and your opinions, The truth is all that matters.
Not sure why you chose to directly tag me, but I appreciate this wisdom, brother :it0tdo8:
 
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this a British man 10,000 years ago and his descendant,
 

techsamatar

I put Books to the Test of Life
Musa was Semitic he was not Congo Bantu

May I inquire, without resorting to derogatory language, why the association between being black-skinned and having kinky hair is often linked to Bantus or Congolese people? Consider taking a journey to the Horn of Africa, specifically Somalia, where you'll find many intensely dark-skinned and kinky-haired ethnic Somalis. It's worth noting that such physical traits aren't exclusive to a particular group. I, for instance, have a brother who is dark-brown and has kinky hair.
 

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It doesn’t matter if Moses or Muhammad or Jesus (Peace be upon them) was black or not.

We can revere and respect religious figures without having to have some identity crisis about whether they looked like us or not.

Just be content with who you are and what your people did. Be glad you are a Muslim Somali.

:samwelcome:
 

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