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Christmas is a national holiday here so why are you surprised?
Prophet Mohamed's Scw birthday today. Mowliid.
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Its not the same and I'm not surprised. Just saying.
Even the goverment declared a mowliid day. Nothing shirk about it.
Yeah they do. The goverment anounced the mowlid celebration on nation scale. This resistance towards it is alien concept to us somalis, we have always celebrated mowliid.
MAY ALLAH BLESS OUR BELOVED PROPHED MOHAMED SCW.
Merchant of Mogadishu
From Pella to Pattala, then back to Babylon
Praise be to Allaah.
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).
Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.
Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.
Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]
The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).
We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad SAW.
There is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate the Mawlid or birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet himself (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told them not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus (upon whom be peace). He said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so say, ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). What has been reported is that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made the day of his birth a day of worship, which is different to celebration. He was asked about fasting on Mondays, and he said: “That is the day on which I was born and the day on which I was entrusted with the Mission or when I was first given Revelation.” (Reported by Muslim, al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawood).
Moreover, we know that the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) were the people who loved the Prophet most. Was it reported that Abu Bakr, who was the closest of people to him and the one who loved him the most, celebrated the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Was it reported that ‘Umar, who ruled for twelve years, or ‘Uthmaan, did this? Was it reported that ‘Ali, his relative and foster son, did this? Was it reported that any of the Sahaabah did this? No, by Allaah! Is it because they were not aware of its importance, or did they not truly love the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? No one would say such a thing except one who has gone astray and is leading others astray.
Did any of the imaams – Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafi’i, Ahmad, al-Hasan al-Basri, Ibn Seereen – do this or command others to do it or say that it was good? By Allaah, no! It was not even mentioned during the first and best three centuries. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a saheeh hadeeth: “The best of mankind are my generation (or my century), then those who come after them, then those who come after them. Then there will come a people who will not care if their testimony comes before their oath or vice versa (i.e., they will not take such matter seriously).” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and al-Tirmidhi). The celebration of the Prophet’s birthday appeared many centuries later, when many of the features of true religion had vanished and bid’ah had become widespread.
Thus this celebration became a sign of one’s love for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? But can it be possible that the Sahaabah, the imaams and the people of the best three centuries were unaware of it, and it was only those who came later who were aware of its importance?! What the Qur’aan tells us is that love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is demonstrated by following the guidance he brought. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say (O Muhammad): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Say: ‘Obey Allaah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away, then Allaah does not like the disbelievers.” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:31-32]
The first aayah explains that love is just a claim, but the proof of sincerity is following what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought. The second aayah reaffirms the importance and necessity of obeying Allaah and His Messenger. Hence Allaah ended the aayah with a very stern warning in which those who refuse to obey are described as kaafirs, and Allah does not love the disbelievers. We ask Allaah to keep us safe from that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us of the danger of not obeying him, and the danger of adding to what he brought. The celebration of Mawlid or his birthday is indeed an addition to what he brought – as all the scholars agree. He said: “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The most evil of things are those which are newly-invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa’i).
We ask Allaah to protect us from bid’ah and to bless us by helping us to follow. Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad SAW.
Shaikh ul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) stated:
“As for taking up a festive season – other than the festive seasons that are legislated, such as some of the nights of the month of Rabee’ al-Awwal regarding which it is said that: it is the night of the birth, or some of the nights of (the month of) Rajab. Or the eighteenth of Dhil-Hijjah and the first Jumu’ah of Rajab, or the eighth of Shawwaal which the ignoramuses refer to as: ‘Eidul Abraar, then they are from the innovations which the Salaf did not deem agreeable, nor did they carry them out, and Allaah, The Glorified, and Most High, knows best.”[1]
What are Such Innovated Practices Based Upon?
Shaikh Muhammad bin Ibraheem aal-ash-Shaikh (rahimahullaah) said:
“There is no doubt that the celebrating of the day of birth of the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) is from the newly concocted innovations subsequent to the spread of ignorance in the Islamic world. Hence it became a domain for a means of leading astray and for misguiding and for erroneous notion and delusion by way of which the visions became blinded, whilst within it the reign of blind following became stronger.
Indeed, they then refer back to that which was stated by so and so and that which pleases so and so. So for this reprehensible innovation there is not to be found a report which has been mentioned upon the companions of the Messenger of Allaah, nor upon the Taabi’een and those who followed them.”[2]
“As for taking up a festive season – other than the festive seasons that are legislated, such as some of the nights of the month of Rabee’ al-Awwal regarding which it is said that: it is the night of the birth, or some of the nights of (the month of) Rajab. Or the eighteenth of Dhil-Hijjah and the first Jumu’ah of Rajab, or the eighth of Shawwaal which the ignoramuses refer to as: ‘Eidul Abraar, then they are from the innovations which the Salaf did not deem agreeable, nor did they carry them out, and Allaah, The Glorified, and Most High, knows best.”[1]
What are Such Innovated Practices Based Upon?
Shaikh Muhammad bin Ibraheem aal-ash-Shaikh (rahimahullaah) said:
“There is no doubt that the celebrating of the day of birth of the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam) is from the newly concocted innovations subsequent to the spread of ignorance in the Islamic world. Hence it became a domain for a means of leading astray and for misguiding and for erroneous notion and delusion by way of which the visions became blinded, whilst within it the reign of blind following became stronger.
Indeed, they then refer back to that which was stated by so and so and that which pleases so and so. So for this reprehensible innovation there is not to be found a report which has been mentioned upon the companions of the Messenger of Allaah, nor upon the Taabi’een and those who followed them.”[2]
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Yareey dhagayso, it was never done during his time and couple hundred years after his death.
Are u sayin that we know better now or luv him more?
I remember my macaalin said the prophet is a first amongst equals among the other messengers sent by god. Regardless of the fact we are of the ummah of prophet Muhammad. If we celebrate him then why not the other messengers birthdays be included as well.
From a logical point of view that would be impossible. There are more messengers then days and the act of celebrating his birthday is similar to elavating his status. The best way too appreciate him is to follow his guidance and to best act as the most capable muslim one can be. Shirk regardless is the greatest sin a muslim can committ, i believe this is true because how subtle it is. Shirk can be as small as asking a dead relative to look over you or to ask the prophets for assistance in this life. All our celebrations and worship must be directed to the most great and the most merciful Allah.
Regardless of the achievement of prophet and his ability to establish islam. He is still a man and without the assistance of allah, the prophet would have never succeeded. Mawlid should be used to reminds us of are need to worship our master and lord, Allah.
From a logical point of view that would be impossible. There are more messengers then days and the act of celebrating his birthday is similar to elavating his status. The best way too appreciate him is to follow his guidance and to best act as the most capable muslim one can be. Shirk regardless is the greatest sin a muslim can committ, i believe this is true because how subtle it is. Shirk can be as small as asking a dead relative to look over you or to ask the prophets for assistance in this life. All our celebrations and worship must be directed to the most great and the most merciful Allah.
Regardless of the achievement of prophet and his ability to establish islam. He is still a man and without the assistance of allah, the prophet would have never succeeded. Mawlid should be used to reminds us of are need to worship our master and lord, Allah.
First of all I ask Allah to send peace and blessings upon our beloved,
Secondly, I do not want to turn this topic into a discussion, we can leave for another thread in shaa Allah. I just want you to look up the Burdah that is one of the central themes of the mawliids, the somalis in particular. So much shirk (saying that the knowledge of the Lawxul-maxfuudh is just a part of his knowledge, that no-one except him can save you on the day of judgement, that he is the one who have bestowed upon the people the blessings of this world and the next! etc...) in a single poem is astounding! Let us do as Allah ordered us in the Qur'aan: show our love to the Prophet
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When did you become religious?
mrlog
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Eedo how bout u state ur reasons instead of attacking Wahhabism which I also don't relate to.
Matter of fact Logically u shouldnt relate to Sunnism or Shiasm.
Reason being they never existed during the prophet's pbu time.
The Deen was completed and any new additions will just allow shirk to creep in.
In my honest opinion doing mawliid is like pretending u know more than the Sahaba some who were promised Paradise whilst they were still alive.
I am not saying Mawliid is Shirk but it's something that was never done back then.
Some might argue that Starbucks and Jeans never existed back then.
The counter argument is that nobody thinks Starbucks is a way of earning good deeds.
I rest my case
I don’t care about your opinion. Plenty of classical scholars have stated that mawlid is a good deed. But salafis don’t believe in ikhtilaf, everybody must follow their opinion or it’s a bidah. I don’t follow mawlid, but I believe that there is a difference of opinion and those performing mawlid are following a valid fiqh position.
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Sxb its fine not caring bout my opinion but why do u care bout so called classical scholars?
How bout u state ur opinions and reasons for those opinions.
No need to talk bout Salafis and Wahhabism and Habar-kuuleey.
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