PrimeMinister Hamze barre of Somalia makes a clear distinction between Somaliland and Puntland
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It is this kind of stupidity that leads to increased support for the treasonous idea that is Puntland secession.
Absolutely retarded thing to say, but it is to be expected from the dumbest PM ever.
Absolutely retarded thing to say, but it is to be expected from the dumbest PM ever.
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You left out the first bit of the discussion which was about the constitution of Somalia. Somaliland has nothing to do with Somalia and so obviously he is correct.
I agree this sort of rthethoric is going to destroy somali unity eventually let’s hope it doesn’t and cooler heads emerge and the country is saved
There is an distinction between PL and SL.
PL was the founder of the SYL movement by Yasin Ali Sharmarke before he nationalised it with the so called 13, he himself was a grand kid of Hobyo Sultan Keenadiid. The SYL drew it's inspiration from the Darawish movement which was an armed movement but he only refused the militant posture not the actual idealogy.
Both the political(MJ) and armed wing (Dhulbahante) of Somalinimo are founding members of PL state.
By the way not all MJS were pro union only the Hobyo sultanate territory were. The Majerteniya Kingdom of Nugaal and Bari were not interested and the king was put in house arrest in Mogadishu. He wanted his own sultanate and kingdom to become a national state once the Italian protectorate agreement completed.
He only signed a protection with Italy because the Darawish were in bed with the Ottomans trying to preserve the old ruling power who was being pressured on multiple fronts by the west in its old stomping grounds. Plus the added pressure of Keenadiid who he was afraid was going to expand Hobyo borders and swallow his territory up.
The British were in bed with Ethiopians and Kenyans and Landers and simply not in our interest plus their were worried of their missionizing crapola and changing people history and identity to suit their cooked up global image put onto books and media. The British are big enemies of all Darods possibly due to ethio, lander, Kenyans influencing them. But it's of no question, haven't seen a god damn good thing come from those people, so I urge you all to beware .
PL was the founder of the SYL movement by Yasin Ali Sharmarke before he nationalised it with the so called 13, he himself was a grand kid of Hobyo Sultan Keenadiid. The SYL drew it's inspiration from the Darawish movement which was an armed movement but he only refused the militant posture not the actual idealogy.
Both the political(MJ) and armed wing (Dhulbahante) of Somalinimo are founding members of PL state.
By the way not all MJS were pro union only the Hobyo sultanate territory were. The Majerteniya Kingdom of Nugaal and Bari were not interested and the king was put in house arrest in Mogadishu. He wanted his own sultanate and kingdom to become a national state once the Italian protectorate agreement completed.
He only signed a protection with Italy because the Darawish were in bed with the Ottomans trying to preserve the old ruling power who was being pressured on multiple fronts by the west in its old stomping grounds. Plus the added pressure of Keenadiid who he was afraid was going to expand Hobyo borders and swallow his territory up.
The British were in bed with Ethiopians and Kenyans and Landers and simply not in our interest plus their were worried of their missionizing crapola and changing people history and identity to suit their cooked up global image put onto books and media. The British are big enemies of all Darods possibly due to ethio, lander, Kenyans influencing them. But it's of no question, haven't seen a god damn good thing come from those people, so I urge you all to beware .
Time we moved past this, old MJ political class helped create Frankenstein monster
I don't get why Somali govt puts SL on such a high pedestal, is it maybe some sort of affirmative action or politics lol
PL existed as a kingdom before SL even existed and were under the British queen for god sakes. Yes they were under a British kingdom and their existence came due to accepting the queen is the monarch for those territories, this means their no was no kingdom in SL and the people were just wax qaawans or no man's land status. Either way their can't be two Kings in one territory and Queen Elizabeth was the reigning monarch for SL, while Landers were royal possessions of that queen.
While PL had its own kingdom and only signed a protection treaty with Italy due to fears of foreign powers encroaching not that it ceded it's territory or self rule like SL who would have to always get the queen approval thru it's delegated local officers which their elders would have to consult as they were not sovereign, go'aankooda London bay tiilay.
SL elders were only consulted ama talo wala waydin jiray Lakin final decision wasn't in their hands. They lost their sovereignty. It's a shame seeing this constant Durban shit from Mogadishu for SL, it really puts themselves into disrepute..
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Ur missing the point. Detoore it’s just all about your reer abti looking up to the isaaq it’s nothing more it’s not that deep that’s why they put themI don't get why Somali govt puts SL on such a high pedestal, is it maybe some sort of affirmative action or politics lol
PL existed as a kingdom before SL even existed and were under the British queen for god sakes. Yes they were under a British kingdom and their existence came due to accepting the queen is the monarch for those territories, this means their no was no kingdom in SL and the people were just wax qaawans or no man's land status. Either way their can't be two Kings in one territory and Queen Elizabeth was the reigning monarch for SL, while Landers were royal possessions of that queen.
While PL had its own kingdom and only signed a protection treaty with Italy due to fears of foreign powers encroaching not that it ceded it's territory or self rule like SL who would have to always get the queen approval thru it's delegated local officers which their elders would have to consult as they were not sovereign, go'aankooda London bay tiilay.
SL elders were only consulted ama talo wala waydin jiray Lakin final decision wasn't in their hands. They lost their sovereignty. It's a shame seeing this constant Durban shit from Mogadishu for SL, it really puts themselves into disrepute..
On a pedestal
This retard was inspecting dirty toilets at moghdhishu airport today. Words from this neef means nothing
airport managed by turkish company Favori that is pocketing all the money and not investing in facilities. HSM sold airport, port and even oceans to them. HSM probably getting kick backs and sending these fools on wild goose chase inspecting dirty toilets
Turkish firm operating Mogadishu airport shielded by President Erdogan amid controversial practices - Nordic Monitor
Abdulah Bozkurt/Stockholm
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airport managed by turkish company Favori that is pocketing all the money and not investing in facilities. HSM sold airport, port and even oceans to them. HSM probably getting kick backs and sending these fools on wild goose chase inspecting dirty toilets
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Turkish firm operating Mogadishu airport shielded by President Erdogan amid controversial practices - Nordic Monitor
Abdulah Bozkurt/Stockholm
If anything puntland is making every single thing in Xamar more complicated, every step they make you'll hear Puntland trying to drag them down
Puntland are the biggest khaayin of Somaliyeed, they still have their own constitution yet they claim they want to be part of Somalia
So called "FMS"
they want to be part of somalia on their terms , that is their right i dont see anything wrong with that Mogadishu can dictate the terms of what the fabric of the country will be Mogadishu has one stake puntland has one stake Somaliland has one stake ...If anything puntland is making every single thing in Xamar more complicated, every step they make you'll hear Puntland trying to drag them down
Puntland are the biggest khaayin of Somaliyeed, they still have their own constitution yet they claim they want to be part of Somalia
So called "FMS"
Not they dont, or it would've happened before FGS was even formed
They know FGS is weak and they're taking full advantage of it
