Nabad iyo Nolol guul 2021 
guul jaale Farmaajo.
wa billahi towfiiq
guul jaale Farmaajo.wa billahi towfiiq
President Farmaajo is on the right path in reviving the nation
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Tukraq
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Reviving? We were never really good at any point in reality, peaceful maybe but not good, and he hasn’t even took a single step forward from the previous admin, day one should have been reconciliation and constitution, right now were in a worse position than we’ve been in a decade, far major had a chance but fumbled it big time
Somalia was definitely good and had pride around the world. World wide acknowledgement of the stability and power/influence. Two American President wouldn't partake in a documentary showcasing Somalia's power if we weren't relevant or as you put it "good".
As for Farmaajo he'll deliver on all of his promises by the end of his 2nd term. Ask about his track record in 2024.
Guul Nabad iyo Nolol
As for Farmaajo he'll deliver on all of his promises by the end of his 2nd term. Ask about his track record in 2024.
Guul Nabad iyo Nolol
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Tukraq
VIP
No such thing as delivering in a second term should have done it already, heck our issues as a nation can be easily solved within one year let alone 4 if I were president I’d retire after the first year setting us up for success structurally, as for the past we were the Russia lite of Africa not really a good place to be in, I don’t envy Russia one bit, military power is overrated when your bad economically and even worse governmentally representing your people, under barre we were at the level of all these strong man African dictators which is not a favorable position(I even prefer the mess now over that), and before him yes a more admiral democratic gov with the sly but just like under barre was weak economically and really focused on 1 city in Mogadishu when we had 31 equally important cities needing development, investment, and political representation basically they were closed minded and couldn’t see the countries potential, and like wise were no representative systems of government destined to fail by design
Tukraq
VIP
Expectation below ground level
“Hero” as a label for the man supposedly in charge of this dysfunction
Yes you prefer, shabaab, Amisom, secessionist groups, piracy, humiliation of lack of governement for many years, Ethiopian invasion, Kenyans invasion. Over the kacaan? Well that shows me we have irreconcilable differences in fundamental viewpoints. We won't be able to understand each other might as well end our discussion right here.
Instead of AMISOM coming in to save Somalia or even the AU/EU. Somalia went to stop two nations from engaging in war and many others in their independence efforts. Hence having prestige which is not there at this time. Can you imagine a Somali chairman in the UN now or
UN Under Secretary General with eloquence like this man, who was our Ambassador to the UN?
Chairman, Ambassador Farah of Somalia speaking in United Nations 1971, Abdulrahim Abby Farah, Former UN Under Secretary General with Responsibilities for Africa. Wuxuu kahadlayaa dawlada englishka Oo hub ka iibisay south africa
Tukraq
VIP
Anarchy it’s technically better than a strongman African military non representative dictatorship yes, civil war was caused by this gov for a reason, unbelievable marginalization of groups and regions caused the carnage due to this form of governance, the quote of his presidency would be “The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth” a repeat of that would be the same civil war cycle is like I said a worse form of representative government then even today, and was neither well thought out nor future seeing
You believe anarchy is good due to the reasoning that it's better than a strongman leading the country. Putin is a strong man whom I fully respect. The way he has gone about representing Russian interests in the world stage and bringing them into the fold of geopolitical power brokers once again, due to playing realpolitik wouldn't be attainable with the 4-year democratic deal they got in the west. The same thing could be said with Erdogan (both are strongmen).
I believe anarchy is inherently bad no matter the context or narrative people would like to associate with situations. That's a fundamental disagreement between us that is irreconcilable forget the rest of your post. So I wonder what are your aims in continuing this meaningless back and forth you want to engage in?
Furthermore the carnage of lawlessness and the breakdown of institutions caused much more damage to the social fabric of the country in far more ways than you can comprehend.
The way in which they raised arms with no alternative is what started the never ending chaos (anarchy). Thus allowing for islamists to gain a foothold in the country. Before 1991 there were zero islamists that in itself along with overall security/stability is the nucleus of progress. Not piracy and 5 different governors of regions believing themselves to be presidents and wanting to conduct foreign policy on their own terms. That is called a circus.
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Tukraq
VIP
I’m from the mindset that the rebel groups did what was necessary as they were led down that path by the strongman as I stated in the quote “The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth” yes the caydiids of the world were horrible but let’s be honest they were a caused reaction by poor governance, as for the strongmen you mentioned where will Russia be without Putin? Or turkey without erdogan? Truth is those tyrannical ruthless and suppressive regimes aren’t going to be all so pretty in a few years infact if you take. Down the covers you can already see it’s horrible now, the way I see it currently the worst is behind us with a chance to be better than we’ve ever been if the fgs ever uses simple diplomacy/swallows there ego and eventually moves towards a long lasting(200 year range) representative constitution
Tukraq
VIP
If we switched our political situation now to 1991 2.0 we’d be heading back into a civil war
From what I saw of the past govt, they only had 21 years and produced excellence in military and academics worldwide, not bad ratio per year rate, considering where we began from. The growth is quite high, since growth is measurable on beginning point and end points. Not 400 years like europe or america, the growth has been minimal in comparison. They're just civilized doesn't mean there is REAL GROWTH.
I can't believe a country has that track record for 21 years of siyad barre. Cuz the first 9 years of SYL they were finding they're feet as a nation, Siyad power stormed us thru, even tho the governance model and political system was totally incompatible, he worked with what he inherited and ensured it continued, it was not a strong state internally so to speak, it was strong man policy like africa/mid east is TOP DOWN STRENGTH, NOT BOTTOM UP LIKE I AM TRYING TO DO.
Farmajo doesnt have power, he cant arrest me if i do something wrong, he is symbolic or at best waa riyo outside of mogadishu and even then sometimes its not applicable due to clan matters. Your not full power in this country, deal with it, noone is except ISIMO soo jireenka. Even business men have more strength and they come under ISIMO rule or they wud be kicked out by they're ISIM. Even religious scholars can be arrested if the ISIM orders it.
Farmajo doesn't know his power is limited to federal structures and then it's limited even further to ISIMO, so why deny it, just let the isimo soo jireen cut a deal with no siyasi and loser involved, they have more to lose then you will ever lose as a shaksi
I can't believe a country has that track record for 21 years of siyad barre. Cuz the first 9 years of SYL they were finding they're feet as a nation, Siyad power stormed us thru, even tho the governance model and political system was totally incompatible, he worked with what he inherited and ensured it continued, it was not a strong state internally so to speak, it was strong man policy like africa/mid east is TOP DOWN STRENGTH, NOT BOTTOM UP LIKE I AM TRYING TO DO.
Farmajo doesnt have power, he cant arrest me if i do something wrong, he is symbolic or at best waa riyo outside of mogadishu and even then sometimes its not applicable due to clan matters. Your not full power in this country, deal with it, noone is except ISIMO soo jireenka. Even business men have more strength and they come under ISIMO rule or they wud be kicked out by they're ISIM. Even religious scholars can be arrested if the ISIM orders it.
Farmajo doesn't know his power is limited to federal structures and then it's limited even further to ISIMO, so why deny it, just let the isimo soo jireen cut a deal with no siyasi and loser involved, they have more to lose then you will ever lose as a shaksi
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That's not the point laakiin
Anarchy is the worst case scenario for any country. It's near impossible for Somalia to have a dictator again those days are long gone
Can you show me the growth rate change from 5 years in America? nothing looks different niyahow except innovation and even then it's not innovation but 'upgrades' like samsung 5 to 6 loooooool. Innovation is going from old block cell phones to IPHONES, there is key measurable feature difference and even then it's small, it's not invention like 'telephone' looooooool. They are in 'maintainance' mode of they're civilizations not so much GROWTH, the people are just too comfortable and the brain dies beyond what they're told to read and no culture to look back on to find themselves, I can see the problem.
Tukraq
VIP
America wrote the first constitution worldwide its barley been amended, what isn’t broke doesn’t need to be fixed, from a political system viewpoint they don’t need to change much outside lobbying and overturning citizens united
What does warsangeli have to do with my thread? Why do you majererteens flood my threads with nonsense and qabil talk? It's really quite pathetic.
Your qabiil motivated topic of your Abo Farmaajo is full of lies and we will respond.
Go create an Abo Farmaajo fan blog if our comments hurt your feelings.
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