Pre-Islamic beliefs

madaxweyne

madaxweyne
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We traded with Sabaeans, Persians and Indians far more than Axumites. We received cultural influence and products from them, mostly. Nothing wrong with that. What did we get from Axumites? Injere (Canjeero)? That is nothing.

Studies have shown we got religious influence from Himyarites and Romans who we used to trade with. We had Jewish population in the north, don't forget that.
If Christianity ever arrived in Somalia it would definitely had come from neighbouring axum rather then far distant places like Yemen or Rome

Look at sophisticates quote
Apparently some sites at awbarkhadle
Had Ethiopian orthodox crosses rather then Himyarite or romantic style crosses


I remember reading about this in Sada Mire's (2016) paper.
 
If Christianity ever arrived in Somalia it would definitely had come from neighbouring axum rather then far distant places like Yemen or Rome

Look at sophisticates quote
Apparently some sites at awbarkhadle
Had Ethiopian orthodox crosses rather then Himyarite or romantic style crosses
Coptic(Egyptian)/Axumite Crosses look very distinctive, since it's design is based on the Ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh:
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If Christianity ever arrived in Somalia it would definitely had come from neighbouring axum rather then far distant places like Yemen or Rome

Look at sophisticates quote
Apparently some sites at awbarkhadle
Had Ethiopian orthodox crosses rather then Himyarite or romantic style crosses
Don’t think that’s true. Travel by sea is far easier and cheaper than travel by land, so it would be more likely that northern Somalia has closer links to southern Yemen than with Axum. Even up to colonial times, southern Yemen and northern Somalia had close trade links but we didn’t really have trade links with habeshas.
 

madaxweyne

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Don’t think that’s true. Travel by sea is far easier and cheaper than travel by land, so it would be more likely that northern Somalia has closer links to southern Yemen than with Axum. Even up to colonial times, southern Yemen and northern Somalia had close trade links but we didn’t really have trade links with habeshas.
Wasn't south Arabia closer to axum rather then northern Somalia in terms of language culture etc
Axum even ruled Yemen, as for association today we might be close trade partners of Yemen but the past could have been different
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
OMG Yibir where not lying then! They really were Jewish! :kodaksmiley:


Since Isaaq originated from the coast, we could also been Jew/Christian, same goes for Darood, Gadabuursi, and Cisse. :ohhh::ohdamn:
 
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Here are some Christian burial sites located in North Somalia.
So many ruined Islamic towns in northern somalia. What do you think is the reason they became non existent up to the time of colonialism? I am talking about the inland ones. Apart from Sheikh, there were no inland towns in Somaliland.

Climate change collapse?
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
So many ruined Islamic towns in northern somalia. What do you think is the reason they became non existent up to the time of colonialism? I am talking about the inland ones. Apart from Sheikh, there were no inland towns in Somaliland.

Climate change collapse?
Adal Sultanate callapsing and Oromo migration. Oromos fuqed up Western Adal hard. Better safe then sorry!

At least that's what I believe lol.
 

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Adal Sultanate callapsing and Oromo migration. Oromos fuqed up Western Adal hard. Better safe then sorry!

At least that's what I believe lol.
I don’t think so personally. It must be something climate related. Like the region turned arid and they did not have water to irrigate their crops or something.

The Oromo invasion was only in the highland regions of Ethiopia so that makes no sense.

Plus I doubt the Adal held authority all the way east into sanaag.
 
I don’t think so personally. It must be something climate related. Like the region turned arid and they did not have water to irrigate their crops or something.

The Oromo invasion was only in the highland regions of Ethiopia so that makes no sense.

Plus I doubt the Adal held authority all the way east into sanaag.

Climate change is plausible.

Except for few towns in the middle of nowhere, most of the towns are in close proximity to seasonal rivers (wadi). An indication that they practiced some sort of agriculture. Maybe rainfed or with small dams/catchments.

Either way they were intellectually superior to the beings that currently inhabit the Somali Peninsula, that’s for sure.
 

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Climate change is plausible.

Except for few towns in the middle of nowhere, most of the towns are in close proximity to seasonal rivers (wadi). An indication that they practiced some sort of agriculture. Maybe rainfed or with small dams/catchments.

Either way they were intellectually superior to the beings that currently inhabit the Somali Peninsula, that’s for sure.
Somalis should have built qanats as well, that would have been far more reliable than small dams/catchments as the water wouldn’t be lost to evaporation. Especially the ones around northern sanaag, which would have ample water resources from the mountains.

Shame this technology did not spread there.
 
So many ruined Islamic towns in northern somalia. What do you think is the reason they became non existent up to the time of colonialism? I am talking about the inland ones. Apart from Sheikh, there were no inland towns in Somaliland.

Climate change collapse?


Not sure either.

Something also caused northern Somalis to migrate south in the 8th century.

It's probably climate-related.

I wonder what those towns looked like, we need archaeological work done on them.
 
https://europepmc.org/abstract/med/27830941

Read sada mirie she's an expert on waaq beliefs also includes yusufs adventure


Here's your link. The story you are thinking of is the Yibir origin story. This isn't about that. It's a fertility ceremony involving wagar and the herb Rotheca myricoides.

:gaasdrink:
'The child that tiire doesn't give you, God won't give you either.' The role of Rotheca myricoides in Somali fertility practices.

Still waiting for a link to Waaq and Yusuf going to Maldives.
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Here's your link. The story you are thinking of is the Yibir origin story. This isn't about that. It's a fertility ceremony involving wagar and the herb Rotheca myricoides.

:gaasdrink:
'The child that tiire doesn't give you, God won't give you either.' The role of Rotheca myricoides in Somali fertility practices.

Still waiting for a link to Waaq and Yusuf going to Maldives.
:ayaanswag:

Grant,

You are a racialist and on top of that a white supremacist!
 

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