Potential peace talk between fgs and shabaab in Doha hosted by Turkey & Norway

Pastoralist

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@Pastoralist this guy talks rubbish half of the time but in this video released 20 min ago he speaks some sense. Watch from 10:20 onwards

watched 10:00-20:00

Coming from outside Somalia too. With diplomatic passports only issued by FGS. There’s outward image FGS is trying hold up by distancing themselves from any current negotiations.

and what a strange turn of events for the ambassador, nearly getting killed by DJ in the mx owned hotel to now speaking to AS on behalf of FGS. He’s not taking second chances and learned his lesson on attempting to gather support for impeachment. Poor guy
:mjlol:


I guess now we wait for robow to make his appearance in Doha

The way this man explains what they are actually
negotiating it sounds incredibly evil. They’re not trying to work together, but simply make a deal to leave each other alone like Afghanistan and split the money with each other that countries are holding back from AS. In AS held territory it’ll still be hell on earth for Somalis living there unfortunately. If they start working together that’d be ideal. But imagine AS being legitimized and making deals with other countries on land they own.
 
watched 10:00-20:00

Coming from outside Somalia too. With diplomatic passports only issued by FGS. There’s outward image FGS is trying hold up by distancing themselves from any current negotiations.

and what a strange turn of events for the ambassador, nearly getting killed by DJ in the mx owned hotel to now speaking to AS on behalf of FGS. He’s not taking second chances and learned his lesson on attempting to gather support for impeachment. Poor guy
:mjlol:


I guess now we wait for robow to make his appearance in Doha

The way this man explains what they are actually
negotiating it sounds incredibly evil. They’re not trying to work together, but simply make a deal to leave each other alone like Afghanistan and split the money with each other that countries are holding back from AS. In AS held territory it’ll still be hell on earth for Somalis living there unfortunately. If they start working together that’d be ideal. But imagine AS being legitimized and making deals with other countries on land they own.
For Norway, Turkey etc to engage with Somalia and get access to its untapped vast resources is first to get rid of shabaab whom we all know were planted there in the early 2000s for the time being. These negotiations is just that, which is getting Shabaab to agree to take handsome payment for all their dirty work.
 
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Pastoralist

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For Norway, Turkey etc to engage with Somalia and get access to its untapped vast resources is first to get rid of shabaab whom we all know were planted there in the early 2000s for the time being. These negotiations is just that, which is getting Shabaab to agree to take handsome payment for all their dirty work.
That’s the outcome we all want. For them, to surrender not some duel country adjacent from FGS which is run by terrorists.

What some people portray it as however is some twisted arrangement where both groups will agree with each other to find peace, so they can get into shady cajnabi dealings to sell the country.

This at the moment is just fear mongering. The good outcome is what will be assumed for now.
 

Keo

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Somalia going to be like this

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Yes, in 2369
 
First, there have been intermittent talks with Al-Shabaab several times in the past. Second, Al-Shabaab finances themselves and their core activities; however, in recent years, with the Gulf partnering with the FGS and/or FMS, support has mostly ceased from the gulf. The only source of support now comes from Iran. Qatar - Saudi relations have also pretty much been normalized.

It's interesting that Al-Shabaab recently demonstrated their strength. Is this to strengthen their bargaining position?

The fact is that we are entering a more hostile multipolar world. Perpetual conflicts in the periphery of the world, like ours, are no longer tolerated as outside forces will more forcefully try to strengthen their positions.

We already see talks with the Taliban paving the road to normalize and re-embrace them on the international stage. With the situations in Israel and Ukraine, it seems that the West, which is again the main sponsor of the federal project, is willing to offer Al-Shabaab more than in the past.

In the end, we shouldnt give the rumors of talk to much credit until they provide a tangible agreement between the parties we can analyse.
 
The rumour is, Turkey is mediating a deal, to give Ethiopia Hobyo, if the Berbera deal is withdrawn.

 

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Not believing what the guy tweeted until more credible sources confirm what he said. Anyways, Kabakutukade confirms FGS attempt to hold peace talks. The man of course twists this development in his favour, spreading lies.

An effective strategy from FGS would be focusing mostly on killing the leaders and commanders of AS. Some of these guys cannot be negotiated with, they must bite the dust. Freeing territory is nice and all but qabyaalad has halted that path.

Reconciliation between clans would be much more smooth and possible after removing these vermin who exploit qabyaalad to their advantage.
 
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Not believing what the guy tweeted until more credible sources confirm what he said. Anyways, Kabakutukade confirms FGS attempt to hold peace talks. The man of course twists this development in his favour, spreading lies.

An effective strategy from FGS would be focusing mostly on killing the leaders and commanders of AS. Some of these guys cannot be negotiated with, they must bite the dust. Freeing territory is nice and all but qabyaalad has halted that path.

Reconciliation between clans would be much more smooth and possible after removing these vermin who exploit qabyaalad to their advantage.
Already 200+ fgs members are in Doha in talks with shabaab. Hamza bare went today under the pretext “visiting the Qatari Somali diaspora”

:liberaltears:
 
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Already 200+ fgs members are in Doha in talks with shabaab. Hamza bare went today under the pretext “visiting the Qatari Somali diaspora”

:liberaltears:
The war on terror is drawing down so now the US employs Qatar has mediators for terrorist groups.

Look for a BS communique from the "Somali diaspora" following the conference in which they will give a recommendation to the FGS for Al Shabaab to be brought to the negotiating table. Gurguurte will present this to the public as an idea and will put things into motion if there isn't any pushback.

Qatari intentions for Somalia are just as dubious as the UAE. I don't trust either.
 
@Pastoralist @Hilmaam


Already 200+ fgs members are in Doha in talks with shabaab. Hamza bare went today under the pretext “visiting the Qatari Somali diaspora”

:liberaltears:
As long as AS and FGS can get along, Somalia will become a much better place for Somalis. We don't need bombings; we need peace and prosperity. Hopefully, they can strike a peace deal, as long as those degenerates (AS) put their guns down
 
Why is the Qatari Prime minister speaking at a Somali diaspora conference?


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El Nino

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Why is the Qatari Prime minister speaking at a Somali diaspora conference?


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We got motion :gaasdrink:
 

Pastoralist

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@Step a side
Been saying the president is AS, it’s pretty damn obvious when you look at how many SNA colonels, lieutenants, and personnel have been killed under men he put in charge of war on AS. But if his terrorist affiliation ends all our trouble these bastards have given us, then that’s for the best. Hassan’s plan is sinister on the basis that it involves allowing foreigners to stay in Somalia for the foreseeable future, turning us into a defunct bigger version of Djibouti. He has shown 0 incentive to get rid of them, Turks will be patrolling our seas and we’ll have our own navy, even then, they still want EU ships to stay.

but this is one of the best things he’s done regardless of how I feel. War on AS ending is a dream come true. He’ll truly be deserving of the title “dal xoreeye” then.
 
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Pastoralist

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Qatar iyo UAE way isla mid yihin. emaratiga laakin Somalia baac bacees ayu markasta raba iyo Qatar dowladnimo shaqeysa bay somalia raban inay uu siiyan

they’re both two sides of the same coin with each assigned to a specific duty.

The reason I don’t fully believe this to be the case though, is that the qatari trained spy chief which Somalia had, attempted to kick UAE out of Somalia entirely. So there is some kind of real push toward Somalia having a better future spearheaded by turkey and Qatar.
 

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