Play like Singapore.
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Somalis need to develop proper industries. No more just shipping off whole livestock. Process and sell leather and other hide products. Get into dairy like Saudis and Almarai. Get into wool and grass-fed/free-range meat for more affluent markets. Open more tuna factories or get selling dried fish and fish farms. Textiles, mining and processing metals from our more mountainous parts... Date syrup instead of just Dates. Our economy is very immature and so much, I'm noticing during recent visits, is just imported.
The big hurdle, though, is energy. All of that is energy intensive and Somalia lacks, for now, really abundant and cheap energy. Even with investors that's a hurdle we need to conquer somehow. Smacking aside the gaalo's renewable hard-on and just getting into fossil fuel exploitation seems the likeliest bet, if you ask me.
The big hurdle, though, is energy. All of that is energy intensive and Somalia lacks, for now, really abundant and cheap energy. Even with investors that's a hurdle we need to conquer somehow. Smacking aside the gaalo's renewable hard-on and just getting into fossil fuel exploitation seems the likeliest bet, if you ask me.
All that needs capital that only few can bear it
Capital can be acquired if we make the country safe and secure. It's already relatively easy to do business here. There's a lot of interest in Somalia. What tends to hamper us is hat foreign investors don't feel safe. No strong central government, no overall proper rule of law, militants running amok... but solving this in itself requires much capital.
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I thought renewables like solar were even cheaper than coal now; we still need gas for blast furnaces and petrol for cars, but a renewable + battery storage dependent electricity grid seems more than tenable -- especially in Nations that get plenty of solar radiation.
That can be solved with Hydrogen gas, infact it is the answer for Solar and wind energy problem, where you can generate Hydrogen from using electricity from Solar power during the day and store the hydrogen and then use them in night.
Energy is absolutely critical for our development. It will help make energy intensive industries such as metals, and steel making feasible. This could in turn transform society back home (by providing quality jobs, taxes to gov, education etc etc).
If we have significant fossil fuel reserves, and we need to dig that up asap, so we can get as much $ as possible. Fossil fuel demand will probably peak within the next decade, so we need to hurry up. Imo, the biggest challenge will be getting government to use those funds wisely (education, infrastructure, healthcare etc).
If we have significant fossil fuel reserves, and we need to dig that up asap, so we can get as much $ as possible. Fossil fuel demand will probably peak within the next decade, so we need to hurry up. Imo, the biggest challenge will be getting government to use those funds wisely (education, infrastructure, healthcare etc).
The first stage should be to establish critical energy intensive industries (with reliable energy sources). As much as I love renewables, I don't think a country as poor and as undeveloped as ours can bet that renewables will power vital industries reliably (Nuclear is out of the question in the short term; it can take decades to make one plant). If we were to discover oil, we simply need to sell it and use it ASAP.
If in the future, we become a middle income country, then we can look to invest in renewables (which will almost certainly have improved in efficiency, especially in battery storage).
Battery storage is the biggest bottleneck wrt renewables. Currently, the storage capability is not good enough. The batteries rely on Lithium, which is kinda rare. The US and China are competing to control the world's supply of lithium currently as well. All these factors make renewables unrealistic for us in the short term.
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Singapore looks beautiful I will visit one day inshallah
From seawater desalination plants powered by solar power, make water and hydrogen, then hydrogen is stored and used in hydrogen engines to make power. Green win/win
Somalia has everythingCapital can be acquired if we make the country safe and secure. It's already relatively easy to do business here. There's a lot of interest in Somalia. What tends to hamper us is hat foreign investors don't feel safe. No strong central government, no overall proper rule of law, militants running amok... but solving this in itself requires much capital.
Somalia could even be richer dubai, japan and singapore
it's just we got dumb leader who are asking western for help instead doing it themselves.
we could've been dubai
but we're fighting each other
Somalia has everything
Somalia could even be richer dubai, japan and singapore
it's just we got dumb leader who are asking western for help instead doing it themselves.
we could've been dubai
Somalia lacks a strong unified government. That is its main issue, if you ask me. It needs one strong unified central military and government and to really lay down the rule of law and properly, fairly coordinate resources from both the north (Somaliland) and Koonfur and the Northeast. Purported oil reserves offshore in Koonfur and in the northeast, the fertility of the northwest and riverine south taken full advantage of, greening projects a la the loess plateau in regions like Bari and Sanaag if possible, making the country safe and easy for investment, strategic alliances with stronger countries nowadays (like the Khaleej or China or both) to develop all our ports to a world-standard, making Somalis behave and play nice with no qabiil favoritism but that takes a lot of work, lacag and wadani-ism that is hard to by, niyahow. We need a benevolent dictator who is willing to slowly transition over power once his work has been done but fat chance of that, wallahi.
He is one of many, he was talking about a breakthrough in technology of processing, but it’s true that that you can produce hydrogen gas in large number if you have a lot of energy. UAE is working to become a large producer of hydrogen gas and export that to EU.
Hydrogen gas can shipped and transferred like natural gas with little editing in the terminals.
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the problem is that somalia needs hundreds of millions to fund an army. and somalia specifically the south (and parts of somali galbeed) need an army similar to the size of egypt. because its a mixture of anarchists and traitors.Capital can be acquired if we make the country safe and secure. It's already relatively easy to do business here. There's a lot of interest in Somalia. What tends to hamper us is hat foreign investors don't feel safe. No strong central government, no overall proper rule of law, militants running amok... but solving this in itself requires much capital.
Singapore is 733.1 km2 and the strategic location of the island, just suspended in the Malacca Strait that guarantees the control on 40% of trading passes. Places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Luxembourg etc they are trading cities sitting next to massive countries. Cities are in general wealthier than the countryside. If Mumbai and Shanghai were counted as independent countries, they have a higher GDP than Singapore and Hong Kong compressed in a comparable geographic area.Somalia has everything
Somalia could even be richer dubai, japan and singapore
it's just we got dumb leader who are asking western for help instead doing it themselves.
we could've been dubai
Singapore is nominally Chinese and the Chinese are naturally smarter than any other group of humans. They were always going to be rich as long as it had stability.
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They are Chinese so they must be smart argument
They are Chinese so they must be smart argument
One place Somalia is lucky (counting Somaliland) is that our desertified areas are mostly flat, rocky or mountainous or a mix of that with usually lots of sparce shrubland. A lot of Somalia in the north just looks like a desertified Ethiopian Highlands. We'd be a lot more screwed if it was all like the Arabian Peninsula and covered in sand dunes like that one small patch of Mudug. I can see us pulling something like the case of the Loess Plateau with the right resources:
You see it fairly commonly here in Puntland that if some people buy up a patch of land and dig a well and start irrigating and fertilizing it that land becomes usable and houses a lot of trees, grasses and crops fairly easily. We just need to more sustainably water the place. Ponds, reservoirs and artificial lakes to properly harvest what little rain water we get and slowly but surely greening the whole place so that precipitation naturally increases... needs a lot of money and man-power but this place seriously has hope and can make a transformation like below more easily than Arabia can:
It would drastically change the lives of everyone in places like Bari. Larger herds, more meat and milk, more beehives, less heat, less of a need for AC, more water, more frankincense and cash crops... it must be done someday and somehow, wallahi.
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