PL VS SL VS MOG Universities

DR OSMAN

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In all realities guys no rankings or any biased shit is needed, I just want EVIDENCE. Nothing else. I know PL university suck big time and the evidence I use is the following;

1. I never hear of Somalis(hargeisa or mogadishu) coming to PL to study in our university, that's usually a big indicator you got a shit university and the paper u earn there is basically worthless. Infact I hear of PL going to 'awdal' institute and Sheikh university. So this clearly demonstrates to me that PL see 'benefits' in SL higher learning institutions then they would in PL.

2. Mogadishu is a total joke, my mother was there for a year and told me their just 'privately' run and called 'universities' in name but not in knowledge space. I don't see PL/SL running to Mogadishu to Study.

So I will leave my opinion out of this but I think PL universities sit between Mogadishu and SL with SL being the more dominant and more respected locally in the nation. There is no other way to explain why would our ppl go there to study if their universities are bad?

See I am Osman Mahmoud, See how I drop my emotions and cadifaad if I feel someone is better then me in somewhere. Why do I do that? it's called DAMN REASONING SKILLS. You don't fix anything by not rejecting the piling evidences of a situation.

Untill I see someone show me clear proofs that PL has better universities then SL especially AWDAL one and the Sheikh one, I am not going to take any of their rambling and cadifaad, where-as when you do this with Hawiye or Isaaq they will just keep rambling and denying, that's like 'dark age europe' mentality shit there.
 
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Kezira

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Somaliland hasn't contributed anything to Awdal universities. These were built by people itself. Eydoor Jeegaan dirtbags know nothing about education. Abaarso is run by American and other Jeegaan Hargeisa school were set up with Awdal professors. Awdal universities are open for Somaliweyn and student from Somalia all go there.
 

DR OSMAN

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Somaliland hasn't contributed anything to Awdal universities. These were built by people itself. Eydoor Jeegaan dirtbags know nothing about education. Abaarso is run by American and other Jeegaan Hargeisa school were set up with Awdal professors. Awdal universities are open for Somaliweyn and student from Somalia all go there.

Yes I give Awdal props as the best university standard in Somalia. How else can I explain why my students flock there to learn, it's not reasonable to say they go there and at the same time say awdal university is bad. I don't see awdal guys flocking to anywhere in Somalia for studying since maybe they might have the best universities that's why.

I would like to send a PL university caucus out to to learn what made awdal university so damn goooooooooooooooooood and quality. Is it the professors, the investment and equipments, the way you teach material, the recognition your university has locally and abroad? we need to figure out what makes a good university so we can start competing not sit there in cadifaad and play the DENIAL GAME.
 

DR OSMAN

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Somaliland hasn't contributed anything to Awdal universities. These were built by people itself. Eydoor Jeegaan dirtbags know nothing about education. Abaarso is run by American and other Jeegaan Hargeisa school were set up with Awdal professors. Awdal universities are open for Somaliweyn and student from Somalia all go there.

The only time I see awdal/hargeisa folks in PL their usually left for 'economic' reason like seeking work in PL such as restaurant work and stuff. I don't see them coming for reasons of using our hospital system or education sector which is a big indicator that something is WRONG in PL why noone flocks to our universities or hospitals? maybe the reason is THEIR SHIT. We have a long way to go in PL, but we need to start also acknowledging where our weak points are. We are fine in the business space cuz clearly ppl come for better life. But not in the SERVICES SPACE like higher education and hospitals. We lag terribly behind. Infact most puntlanders are rushed to hargeisa hospitals, which proves again hargeisa is beating us in hospitals and awdal in universities.
 

DR OSMAN

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Somaliland hasn't contributed anything to Awdal universities. These were built by people itself. Eydoor Jeegaan dirtbags know nothing about education. Abaarso is run by American and other Jeegaan Hargeisa school were set up with Awdal professors. Awdal universities are open for Somaliweyn and student from Somalia all go there.

Sxb in all honesty, ninka ragga ah meesha looga roon yahay waa sheega si uu kibrad uu ka qaato inu isagu isbadelo, the jahiil is the only who denies and lives in fantasy world. I think Hargeisa has better hospitals then PL, I know lots of our ppl are sent there for hospital services because we lack the capacity or expertise outside of general health. I think Awdal has better universities then PL.

I just want my PPL to improve our universities and hospitals which are totally crap and I never conceal this and let it be known constantly, if you have good hospitals and education, your people wouldn't flee it to go to malaysia, india, sudan, ethiopia and even you guessed it AWDAL. This needs to be addressed by the cooler head puntlanders and keep the cadifaad ones away.
 

Kezira

disneylanders
Sxb in all honesty, ninka ragga ah meesha looga roon yahay waa sheega si uu kibrad uu ka qaato inu isagu isbadelo, the jahiil is the only who denies and lives in fantasy world. I think Hargeisa has better hospitals then PL, I know lots of our ppl are sent there for hospital services because we lack the capacity or expertise outside of general health. I think Awdal has better universities then PL.

I just want my PPL to improve our universities and hospitals which are totally crap and I never conceal this and let it be known constantly, if you have good hospitals and education, your people wouldn't flee it to go to malaysia, india, sudan, ethiopia and even you guessed it AWDAL. This needs to be addressed by the cooler head puntlanders and keep the cadifaad ones away.
That is the only way change will come, you are right. Universities are great but I don't see point of them when there is not much work. Did you know most move out to find work in Mogadishu or PL or other places.
 

DR OSMAN

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That is the only way change will come, you are right. Universities are great but I don't see point of them when there is not much work. Did you know most move out to find work in Mogadishu or PL or other places.

That's why I love federalism. U can bounce ideas of each other where your state is better at something and send cross based teams to learn from each other where your state is better. You can't do this under unitarian system where there is only way of doing things like the past since we got nothing to judge against in the nation like this damn @Dues Ex Machete want.

Federalism vs Centralism is an ongoing war right now that is tearing qabiils apart politically in Somalia as the more HAG orientated clans follow the centralized model and the darods the federal approach.
 

FBIsomalia

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In health PL is moving to higher level. Recently GMC mudug did some surgeries that haven't been made on PL. Check on the below video.


Makhiir University will be Awdal to PL. PL education ministry did mention PL need to improve better.
 

DR OSMAN

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In health PL is moving to higher level. Recently GMC mudug did some surgeries that haven't been made on PL. Check on the below video.


Makhiir University will be Awdal to PL. PL education ministry did mention PL need to improve better.

We will see with Makhir, it sures has the facilities and equipments. Will the curriculum, professors, and learning model and reputation of the university become like Awdal? time will tell, it's to early to call but they have a GREAT opportunity to mark Makhir area as the higher education hub of PL. But as for Hospitals, sxb besides general medicine, they lack specialized medicine fields in PL or lack of expertise plus the equipment and facilities are not up to modern standard.

I had hope for the East Africa university hospital in Bosaso when it first opened up back in 2010 I think, I thought they would deliver students who specialize in health fields that PL is lacking, I've yet to see that come to fruitution and that hospital was built a long time ago. So I am not that optimistic for Makhir university either. They look like they had the equipment/ facilities/universities hall to study a range of health fields that are in shortage, but NOPE we still bring in egyptians for god sakes to do 'indho fiiq' lol so you can't imagine a Somali who cannot perform such a basic procedure in the western world to go anywhere near heart surgery or complicated surgeries like brain, muscle, eyes, nose etc.
 
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Reer-Bari

COMMANDER OF THE PUNTLAND DEFENCE TEAM
In all realities guys no rankings or any biased shit is needed, I just want EVIDENCE. Nothing else. I know PL university suck big time and the evidence I use is the following;

1. I never hear of Somalis(hargeisa or mogadishu) coming to PL to study in our university, that's usually a big indicator you got a shit university and the paper u earn there is basically worthless. Infact I hear of PL going to 'awdal' institute and Sheikh university. So this clearly demonstrates to me that PL see 'benefits' in SL higher learning institutions then they would in PL.

2. Mogadishu is a total joke, my mother was there for a year and told me their just 'privately' run and called 'universities' in name but not in knowledge space. I don't see PL/SL running to Mogadishu to Study.

So I will leave my opinion out of this but I think PL universities sit between Mogadishu and SL with SL being the more dominant and more respected locally in the nation. There is no other way to explain why would our ppl go there to study if their universities are bad?

See I am Osman Mahmoud, See how I drop my emotions and cadifaad if I feel someone is better then me in somewhere. Why do I do that? it's called DAMN REASONING SKILLS. You don't fix anything by not rejecting the piling evidences of a situation.

Untill I see someone show me clear proofs that PL has better universities then SL especially AWDAL one and the Sheikh one, I am not going to take any of their rambling and cadifaad, where-as when you do this with Hawiye or Isaaq they will just keep rambling and denying, that's like 'dark age europe' mentality shit there.

Walahi your so wrong. Bosaso is either first or second after borama. In bosaso an garowe there is students from xamar jubbaland somaliland and diaspora countries like canada America Britain that flock there in the hundreds if not thousands.
 

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