Patriarchy is the norm

[Mujahid2002]

Allah made men the protectors and leaders of communities and therefore patriarchy is the norm in this world. There is no such as toxic masculinity these word created by feminists and the plan was to destroy the nuclear family structure and they won in the west. The west is heading towards society collapse because without patriarchy no society will survive.

 

[Omar del Sur]

even the act of... what it is married people do... even this act- the act itself is something patriarchal. and women tend to desire- what? a man who is bigger, stronger, makes more money- or a man who is weaker, smaller and makes less money? patriarchy is something innate and built into the structure of things. feminism is a rebellion against nature- and in a sort of implicit way therefore a rebellion against the Creator who created nature.

and then when you look at what Islam teaches... Islam very clearly is inherently patriarchal. as are Christianity and Judaism, it is not something particular to Islam.

if you really wanted to eliminate patriarchy, you would need to eliminate religion and this is why feminism inherently is opposed to religion. observe feminists and you will see they are either campaigning for open apostasy from religion or working to water-down, weaken and undermine religion. the ones who aren't opting for the open apostasy route are just the ones who haven't gone all the way.

for all this reason, any attempt to fuse Islam with feminism ends up leading in a wrong direction. and when people try to do it, it is sort of implicitly admitting that they are at odds with Islam. if they were really on the same page with Islam, they could go from a purely Islamic perspective without trying to bring in any outside ideology.

 

[Mujahid2002]

even the act of... what it is married people do... even this act- the act itself is something patriarchal. and women tend to desire- what? a man who is bigger, stronger, makes more money- or a man who is weaker, smaller and makes less money? patriarchy is something innate and built into the structure of things. feminism is a rebellion against nature- and in a sort of implicit way therefore a rebellion against the Creator who created nature.

and then when you look at what Islam teaches... Islam very clearly is inherently patriarchal. as are Christianity and Judaism, it is not something particular to Islam.

if you really wanted to eliminate patriarchy, you would need to eliminate religion and this is why feminism inherently is opposed to religion. observe feminists and you will see they are either campaigning for open apostasy from religion or working to water-down, weaken and undermine religion. the ones who aren't opting for the open apostasy route are just the ones who haven't gone all the way.

for all this reason, any attempt to fuse Islam with feminism ends up leading in a wrong direction. and when people try to do it, it is sort of implicitly admitting that they are at odds with Islam. if they were really on the same page with Islam, they could go from a purely Islamic perspective without trying to bring in any outside ideology.

These fiminists created the metoo movement and this movement made a lot of man lose their job and life just for allegations and when it turns to be wrong his life still fucked any women can accuse you and everyone will believe her. Imagine how many innocent men in jail cause his girlfriend got emotional anger because of break up.

 

[JohnCena]

and then when you look at what Islam teaches... Islam very clearly is inherently patriarchal. as are Christianity and Judaism, it is not something particular to Islam.

if you really wanted to eliminate patriarchy, you would need to eliminate religion and this is why feminism inherently is opposed to religion. observe feminists and you will see they are either campaigning for open apostasy from religion or working to water-down, weaken and undermine religion. the ones who aren't opting for the open apostasy route are just the ones who haven't gone all the way.

for all this reason, any attempt to fuse Islam with feminism ends up leading in a wrong direction. and when people try to do it, it is sort of implicitly admitting that they are at odds with Islam. if they were really on the same page with Islam, they could go from a purely Islamic perspective without trying to bring in any outside ideology.

Bro, thank you.

I've explained this concept to so many people like countless of times but they disagree and continue to argue against this.

If you're Muslim, you can't claim to be a feminist. It's the equivalent of being apart of the LGBTQ and claiming you're muslim when both are polar opposites in terms of ideology

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

"When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 7099).

 

[Omar del Sur]

These fiminists created the metoo movement and this movement made a lot of man lose their job and life just for allegations and when it turns to be wrong his life still fucked any women can accuse you and everyone will believe her. Imagine how many innocent men in jail cause his girlfriend got emotional anger because of break up.

I can't comment on the metoo movement as I don't know much about it. But in the workplace, we men definitely need to abide by the sharia and insha'Allah we'll be safe from any alllegations of inappropriate behavior when it comes to women. I do think it's weird though how that phrase "believe all women" was promoted and then it was ignored when it came to allegations against Biden. And I'm sure many people have seen those pictures of Biden acting very inappropriately with girls and women.

also, though- from the sharia standpoint, with certain crimes there have to be witnesses. so if the conviction would require witnesses, it's definitely wrong if they persecute the person without the necessary proof being established against them. there are reasons what is in the sharia is in the sharia. it's silly to think no woman would ever lie, just as it would be silly to think no man would ever lie. of there are good and evil men and women.

 

[Amber]

"When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 7099).

I don't know how I feel about that...

 

[induction]

I don't know how I feel about that...

some people say that hadith only applied to Persia specifically.

 

[induction]

even the act of... what it is married people do... even this act- the act itself is something patriarchal. and women tend to desire- what? a man who is bigger, stronger, makes more money- or a man who is weaker, smaller and makes less money? patriarchy is something innate and built into the structure of things. feminism is a rebellion against nature- and in a sort of implicit way therefore a rebellion against the Creator who created nature.

and then when you look at what Islam teaches... Islam very clearly is inherently patriarchal. as are Christianity and Judaism, it is not something particular to Islam.

if you really wanted to eliminate patriarchy, you would need to eliminate religion and this is why feminism inherently is opposed to religion. observe feminists and you will see they are either campaigning for open apostasy from religion or working to water-down, weaken and undermine religion. the ones who aren't opting for the open apostasy route are just the ones who haven't gone all the way.

for all this reason, any attempt to fuse Islam with feminism ends up leading in a wrong direction. and when people try to do it, it is sort of implicitly admitting that they are at odds with Islam. if they were really on the same page with Islam, they could go from a purely Islamic perspective without trying to bring in any outside ideology.

don't really agree with the bolded part. Like, patriarchy exists outside of religion, i think it's more of an evolution thing. the fittest used to survive and since men are physically stronger than women, they ruled over them. But now, physical ability doesn't matter as much so we might be seeing a change in the future (like 1000s of years into the future). would be interesting to see how islam is affected by that

 

[Amber]

some people say that hadith only applied to Persia specifically.

thx for explaining, my heart almost broke

 

[Erythrean]

thx for explaining, my heart almost broke

Yup turns of the Queen Persia brought in was a greedy vindictive little witch. So when the Prophet said, “When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." It was only in this specific instance. Women can go into high positions in government etc. Just check some hadiths.