type shitOur smoke should be with these people not ourselves I would say take them to xabsi and rough them up then deport but if they come back 7.62s will too
And we keeping the women
Oromo invasion has become a reality
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Blame remittances! These kids are getting their next pay from a relative back home who’s working 50+ hours a week and charging their kid rent to pay for their lazy asses
An important Oromo Sheikh who fled the tyranny of Haile Selassie’s regime in the late 1970s and later died in Somalia in 1980 is proof of the Oromo struggle against oppression, not of any imagined “takeover.”
This @moosaid account was made recently with the clear aim of provoking people and spreading targeted misinformation. I strongly suspect it is yet another disgruntled user behind a series of burner accounts, since the pattern is consistent: constant doom posting or recycling of bad opinion pieces and hysteria found online.
Distorting the actual realities on the ground by vommitting posts on the internet doesn't actually make them come true. It doesn't alter whats actually happening.
That friend fed you xenophobic exaggerations. Most Oromo migrants in Somaliland and Somalia do petty work like car washing, shoe shining, or other menial tasks, and many survive through begging. The so called “housemaid” jobs are not ones Somalis usually take unless absolutely necessary. In fact, Somalis often employ them out of kindness, but there is no “takeover” happening.
They are also subject to routine deportations and evictions, often unannounced police round them up and return them in caged vehicles on a monthly or even weekly basis. The numbers are not large; at most a few thousand are in Somalia, with only a few hundred youth crossing at any given time. They often cite security reasons for deportations
In Djibouti, the numbers appear higher, but many of those counted as “Ethiopian” are actually Afar or Gadabursi/Issa who live on both sides of the border. Others who cross into Djibouti often move inland temporarily to escape the summer heat and later return.
The main reason Oromos pass through Djibouti, Somaliland, and Puntland is to use them as transit routes toward Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
Somali territories are not their end destination mostly just a stopover. They are fleeing economic hardship, not pursuing any invasive agenda.
If anything, the risks they endure on the journey, including abuse and death, make it clear they are escaping desperation, not seeking dominance.
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Could never be me.
I told you the truth and what people are talking about on Somali social media
This is the same man who was in hargeyasa saying
Hargeisa was my ancestors land
and Everyone is talking about foreigners controlling the job market in Somaliland.
They are not deported, but the corrupt immigration police take some money from them and release them.
Oromos don't work in small businesses now. No construction work, houses, hotels, roads, even government work is being done by them now.
There is popular anger in Somaliland. Arabs and Indians have taken control of crafts and medicine. The Oromo have taken control of simple businesses and construction. The Chinese have taken control of mining, and none of them pay taxes. The people do not benefit from them at all, and unemployment is on the rise.
Wax faham nio!?
And all of them don't respect the people. You see what the Oromo are doing, and the Yemeni who was in Somaliland and described us as slaves, and what the Indians and the Pakistani and Arab doing with our women If you had dhiig and love for your country, you would want these people deported or strict laws imposed on them.
This doesn’t support your position. If anything, it should be prevented so that countless young Oromos don’t embark on a journey that could end up costing them their lives. This is from the article you shared:
“It’s a hazardous ordeal: 558 deaths were recorded last year, mostly caused by drownings. Overcrowded and unseaworthy vessels capsized on at least six occasions in 2024, and smugglers have also been known to throw people into the sea.”
There is clearly a moral imperative to stop these crossings. The only reason Somaliland is now the route of choice is because the authorities in Djibouti and Yemen tightened controls. Same article again:
“In 2023, about three quarters of the crossings into Yemen occurred via Djibouti. But owing to tightened security and increased patrols by Djibouti and Yemeni coast guard vessels, an increasing share of migrants had switched by the end of that year to crossing from the port of Bosaso, in the Puntland region of Somalia.”
Nothing to do with kindness, businesses will do anything to pay workers even less than they already do. This is objectively not a good thing for citizens. They’re laying off workers in Europe/America and hiring Indians who will work for as low as 1/10th of the going rate. Should we just accept a race to the bottom because other people are more desperate than you?
I don't blame the orom or the Ethiopian government. I blame the people in control of Somalia in all corners I don't care what you call it. These are the one who will sale the child organ for money and I think they would sale themselves for enslavement how they are currently doing to the public. Once stop blaming the oroms and start looking at who is in control of your region or why these people in control of regions are beefing. You'd laugh and be surprised in why they are beefing once the truth comes to light.
Listen to the man being interviewed in the first video if you understand Somali:
"Guri walbe dad ba garacaya, olle keena, lacag iyo rashiin keena"
("They are knocking on every door, asking for food, money, and provisions.")
He is also talking about women working as maids and earning money from households. They are not really “taking over” jobs; rather, they are placing an economic burden on local people, because many Somalilanders don’t have the means to support them in addition to themselves. This can often feel almost exploitative of Somali kindness.
As a result, many Oromos end up living in poverty, becoming street beggars, and sometimes committing theft or other crimes out of desperation.
In places like Puntland, before the deportation and security crackdowns, authorities implemented bans on such activities:
A number of them would even employ youth beggar gangs that roamed throughout markets:
Ethiopian child beggars in Somalia are at risk of exploitation – Puntland Post
Ethiopia child beggars in Somalia go in pairs to elicit sympathy from potential helpers. Garowe (PP News Desk) — People… Sii akhri
puntlandpost.net
Yes, they continue to cross the border hoping to reach Saudi Arabia and are sometimes deported in caged trucks, which is inhumane:
However, there is no easy way to stop them from coming because the state lacks the resources to turn them back more humanely and in an organized way. Just as they lack the resources to take them in through a humanitarian process registration and settlement.
Oromo/Ethiopian situation similar to what is going on in North Africa with West African's using it as a transit to reach Europe. So in away you can call it a migrant crisis.
96% of people in Somalia/Somaliland don’t rely on remittances at all; they either earn through wage labor or run their own businesses.
Households mostly relied on wage labor or small businesses.
Overall only 8% of rural and urban population counted on remittances as their main source of income.
26% of rural households rely on agriculture and fishing and 16% rely on small businesses.
There is no Oromo “takeover” or displacement of jobs. Car washing, shoe shining, and domestic/housemaid work are not roles that Somali youth aspire to, and the youth are already supported by their families and relatives within Somaliland.
What actually happens is that Oromos push themselves onto Somalis to do these jobs and then expect to be paid.
This really highlights the desperation they face, as they lack the support systems that Somali families provide.
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They have done the same in Puntland earlier this year , they have tightened the security and cracked down also on undocumented foreigners andd others who used to smuggle them across.
Puntland security forces arrest and deport Ethiopian migrants
Garowe (HOL) – Puntland security forces arrested a group of Ethiopian migrants on Tuesday after they illegally crossed the border into Somalia, regional authorities confirmed. The detained individuals were immediately deported back to Ethiopia.
I am guessing because the Djibouti and Bosaso transit has become more difficult to get through they are opting to utilize Somaliland as a transit to reach Saudi.
It is kindness to give them a means to support themselves, even if it is through menial work like car washing or shoe shining, and to pay them for it.
As for the unrelated claim about Indians, the reality is that they employ Somalis while also bringing in skilled foreign laborers who transfer specialized skills. I have already clarified this before:
In fact, Somalis are doing the jobs just alongside some foreigners brought in to support specific technical tasks or help transfer knowledge.
We’re seeing the same pattern in Garowe. One local company director summed it up well:
"Iftin currently employs 17 foreigners and 10 locals on permanent contracts. When a project is under construction they hire more locals on daily wages"
They are not laying off workers from Europe/America either , no idea what fantasy Island you live in.
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Exactly, so it’s quite clear there are perfectly legitimate reasons as to why someone could be opposed Oromo migration into Hargeisa and beyond for reasons other than xenophobia as you initially claimed.
This is just wishful thinking - ‘we’re giving them paid employment not because they’re willing to do it for cheaper, but because we’re being kind to them’. There is no way of proving this, but let’s just assume is it kindness: Ask yourself, is it really kind to overlook hiring locals and deprive them of employment opportunities and give these roles to foreign nationals instead? What is the effect of doing this at scale? More young people undertaking tahriib. How is that kind? You could make the argument that locals aren’t willing to do these roles anyway, but imo those are dated attitudes which need to die off so actively reinforcing this isn’t a good idea
I have no problem with hiring specialized labour where it doesn’t exist locally. This is obviously a good thing but these workers are entering the country more formally. The issue was with unchecked/informal movements of labour in this thread. The point about Indian workers was to draw a parallel about what happens when you flood a labour market with masses of people that are willing to do a job for cheaper than the locals will do it for, it’s been happening in the tech industry more since the pandemic, I wasn’t referring to Hargeisa/Somaliland ofc
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wage suppression via mass indian migration is a fact. i live in canada and see it first hand. low level jobs and entry level jobs are completely saturated and cornered by international workers. unemployment rates amongst the youth is at a all time high despite them bringing in mass immigration
I agree that we should prevent illegal migration flows. It is important to repatriate people in a safe, secure, and humane way. Allowing this situation to continue only harms both them and Somalis, so I hope Somaliland authorities take it seriously.
But the idea of them “taking over” is pure xenophobia and fear-mongering. That narrative is far removed from reality and people need to ease up on it.
They are not filling a genuine employment gap. These are small scale activities like shoe shining or car washing on the roadside, where passersby give a few coins out of pocket. It is not work that displaces locals or deprives them of jobs.
That really isn’t happening. Most construction work, easily 99% of it along with other wage labor is done by locals. I can’t stress this enough. There is no displacement of Somali workers by Indians or anyone else.
If you look through the websites, media catalogues, and team profiles of most construction and engineering companies, you will see they are staffed almost entirely by Somalis.
I’ve already shared many examples in different threads:
Somalis have built an entire domestic construction industry from the ground up with complete supply chains producing cement, concrete, tiles, building aggregates, batching, pvc manufacturing etc.
This video goes through every step of that process, even showing their line up of Somali Engineers, Technical team and Laborers and caps it off by showing how building roads is their job
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Somali construction companies like Buruj and Hadiid etc on the other hand are world class. They win international awards and lead the continent. It's because they are community and private sector driven so they strive hard to ensure quality.
Buruuj: Modernizing Somalia’s Infrastructure - Five Magazine
As usual, the economic infrastructure of any country has a positive or negative effect on the economic growth of that country. Buruj Construction Company which was established in 2009 has focused on taking a leading role in developing the economic infrastructure of Somalia that has been severely...fivemagazine.so
Here is another example:
Project Photos – Calmadow Construction and Contractor Company
calmadowcompany.com
Some companies even state this directly on their websites. And this one is based in Garowe.
The demand is so broad and high that there are many competing firms, and only a few bring in foreigners and even then it is for very specialized tasks. The purpose is to transfer technical skills to the local workforce while working alongside skilled Somali laborers. The same thing happens when diaspora professionals return, or when Somali graduates from local universities and technical schools are hired: they are integrated into these companies and contribute to skill transfer.
Most major firms are also registered with the Ministry, at least according to their own websites.
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I will destroy this shrine next time I go to Hargeisa
wage suppression via mass indian migration is a fact. i live in canada and see it first hand. low level jobs and entry level jobs are completely saturated and cornered by international workers. unemployment rates amongst the youth is at a all time high despite them bringing in mass immigration
Neither South Asians, Chinese, nor others are being recruited for low level jobs, and their overall numbers are very small. Claims to the contrary are exaggerations taken out of context.
Do you really think Somali companies would import Indians for low level work when youth unemployment and a displacement pop already exist?
In fact, far fewer foreign workers are needed now that vocational and technical schools have been rolled out nationwide to equip Somali youth with the skills required by a growing market.
The situation in Canada is completely different. The government admits large numbers of Indian students without providing stipends or proper support, forcing them into retail and other entry level jobs. In America you need to have your financial support and accomodation sorted out before being admitted. So that is a policy failure specific to Canada, not a parallel to Somaliland.
We went over this already it's an important Oromo Sheikh who created the modern Oromo Latin language script fled from Haile Selassies persecution in Ethiopia in 1978 and died in Hargeisa in 1980.
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I don’t know the Oromo language so took the tweet at face value. Regardless it’s still an issue, Oromos will view that as confirmation that Somali lands belong to them. I’m not sure why you are playing down this crisis.
Do you not see a problem with the influx of a group people that can speak the language, look somewhat similar, outnumber you, commit brazen banditry and willing to work for shit pay? Just because they’re working menial jobs now doesn’t mean that will always be the case, they have bigger plans in mind. Btw all those deportation videos are just for show, they come back with even more.
Then you correct them about it , simple. If he wants to tell the story of the Sheikh whom i assume was an important figure in their story he is welcome to talk about it and there is nothing wrong with visiting his grave either.
I am not playing anything down. There is a migrant crisis, but the reality is that most Oromos use northern Somali territories as a transit point to Saudi Arabia, not as a final destination. It is similar to how North Africa is a transit route to Europe. The idea that they have some plot to take over Somaliland or Djibouti is baseless; there are multiple studies and news reports that document this clearly.
Very few actually remain, and those who do face constant hardships, deportations, and evictions. It is unfair to inflate this into xenophobic exaggerations when, at its core, it is about people escaping economic hardship.
I emphasize menial jobs to highlight those economic struggles. They are welcome to work in regular jobs alongside Somalis. After all, there are many Somalis working abroad, and it would be hypocritical to condemn others for seeking opportunities in our country.
