Origins of Ceeb Culture

[balanbalis]

I think there was an element of Arabisation with the rise of Salafism. Even if people say it is religious based, the jalabeeb styles are Khaleeji. Also, discarding the Shafici madhab which Somalis followed for a thousand years, does seem lowkey like a kind of Arabisation. The Somali scholars don’t really have their own opinions and they even reference Albani, a modern Saudi scholar as verifying Hadith. We even ditched our own way of reciting the Quran East African style (with the exception of Abdulrashid Cali Sufi) for a similar style to Saudi/Yemen. Somali men rarely wear turbans anymore as they do in Sudan.

This used to be considered modest. Now some people say you have to wear jalabeeb at all times. View attachment 361836

Somali names are changing to sound more gulf like Rayaan, Ahlam etc. As we have discussed here already, we barely have any more girls being named Nadiifo, Cibaado, Maryama, etc, all still Arabic names with a Somali twist.

Ps. Forgot to add, putting on hijab on toddlers was something Somalis never use to practice. I don’t think even Saudis do that.

I have also noticed that hijab is absolutely mandatory in Omalia which many Arab countries don’t even enforce themselves. But I think this modern move towards Arab culture is just Somalis thinking they’re becoming ‘closer’ to Islam

 

[Rayaale]

Somalia or Somali people in general were never Arabized, Islam comes from Allah and not from Arabs

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

I think there was an element of Arabisation with the rise of Salafism. Even if people say it is religious based, the jalabeeb styles are Khaleeji. Also, discarding the Shafici madhab which Somalis followed for a thousand years, does seem lowkey like a kind of Arabisation. The Somali scholars don’t really have their own opinions and they even reference Albani, a modern Saudi scholar as verifying Hadith. We even ditched our own way of reciting the Quran East African style (with the exception of Abdulrashid Cali Sufi) for a similar style to Saudi/Yemen. Somali men rarely wear turbans anymore as they do in Sudan.

This used to be considered modest. Now some people say you have to wear jalabeeb at all times. View attachment 361836

Somali names are changing to sound more gulf like Rayaan, Ahlam etc. As we have discussed here already, we barely have any more girls being named Nadiifo, Cibaado, Maryama, etc, all still Arabic names with a Somali twist.

Ps. Forgot to add, putting on hijab on toddlers was something Somalis never use to practice. I don’t think even Saudis do that.

That abayo is stunning

 

[wonyluvr]

Somalia or Somali people in general were never Arabized, Islam comes from Allah and not from Arabs

Exactly How could we be Arabised if Arabs never came to Somali en masse people say we are arabised just to take a jab at us being Muslim without actually saying it

 

[rin]

Quite often, after a war, people become more traditional. This happened in America after World War II, Betty Friedan talks about this in The Feminine Mystique. the fact is that ceeb culture only really penalizes women, no one thinks its ceeb for a man to be khat addicted junkie, but a woman who isn't dressed in a black niqab is ceeb. It's the moralization of women's existence in society.

 

[Unicorn]

Ceeb in somali culture is misused most times. Theres lots of times tht "ceeb" keeps victims from seeking justice for rape/molestation since the victim(usually a girl/woman) is shamed. The only times ceeb is good is when it enforces treating parents,relatives, and siblings right cuz cutting off family is considered ceeb. The other thing about ceeb as u said its only for women. Ive heard so many somali men and women say "niin ceeb maleh"=a man has nothing to be ashamed of. So its fuked up lol

 

[nothingfrosty]

Religion and culture often intersect because of human interpretation. Salafiya is one school of interpretation. Somalis of old did not think it was necessary to put hijab on infants (neither did most of the Muslim world btw) until the Dawah from Sonalis students returning from Medina. So while it maybe inspired by religious zeal, these concepts are new to Somali society and introduced from Khaleej. I have also given you the fading out of turbans in favour of cimamat, garbaasaro fading out and so forth. Man are wearing Saudi Bisht for their weddings and people think there is no Arabisation.

Religions doesn’t just intersect with culture but religion creates culture.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Ya allah why do we have a large population who think like this and just say whatever is on top of their head without research or looking at history