Opinions on Sayyid Qutb?

Kun_Ciil

Kun_Ciil

The truth of the matter is that Qutb along with Maududi is one of the most influential and prominent Islamic thinkers and writers in the last century. I’m not saying he is perfect or without mistakes(will highlight the issues a bit more later), but looking at his time and his ideas he was indeed a man who loved Islam and wanted the law of Allah to be established amongst the Muslim nations once again. May God have mercy on him and forgive him for any mistakes.

One has to remember that during his time, the Muslims for the first time in history came under a long period of colonization. This colonization brought about the demolition of Islamic systems and Shariah Law whilst replacing them with western thinking, modernity, system of governances. Many Muslims in turn due to the military, economic superiority of the west, became enamored with the western system and viewed it as the best system for worldly advancement and governance. When the colonizers left, they may have left physically but their intellectual colonization was still present in the Muslim lands and the political elite they left behind, just as in Qutb day, it is still the same today.


Qutb sought to highlight this mental slavery, instill the lofty values of Islam amongst the Muslims and show them that they have been given a blessed system called Islam and that the sovereignty of legislation only belongs to Allah and not man. His work mainly focuses around this, that all systems in the Muslim lands are remnants of colonization and a transgression against the original Muslim position that the Law/legislation only belongs to Allah.

Also it should be noted that him and many of the Muslim brotherhood members were tortured, killed and imprisoned. For what? Calling to the establishment of Islamic system and leaving these western inventions. Therefore in his writing, he views the Egyptian state as a hostile state against Islam and a suppressor of the will of the Muslims(and if you think he was lying, look at what happened to Morsi and the ikhwan after being elected democratically and peacefully.)


Now I will try to point out the main two issues that people have with his writings. There are other Islamic mistakes, even in his Tafsiir work, but a lot of scholars(even salafi) ones excuse him of this because Qutb was not an Islamic scholar with deep understanding of Islamic fiqh or usuul tafsiir. If anything, Qutub was a great writer, a man writing about contemporary issues and a caller to the revival of the Islamic system.

Anyways, the three main issues in his work that have become a fuel for people with takfiiri thinking are

1)His concept of labelling all Muslim societies and governments as Jahiliya societies(pre-Islamic societies)

2)Tawxiid Hakamiyah( The Sovereignty of Legislation- Ruling by what Allah has revealed)

3)His different stance to early Hassan Al Bana thinking, and more non-violence members of the Muslim brotherhood. A lot of Muslim brotherhood believed in the idea that that an Islamic system could be brought about by peaceful means. By giving dacwa, teaching people about the importance of following an Islamic system, and working within the system and current society until naturally the government became an Islamic government. However, Qutb although he believed in a similar path, he also held the view that most Muslim governments were hostile forces against Islam and so believed that if the Islamic movement was threatened by force then they could use force as a deterrent to preserve the Islamic movement.


Now the two main points, I separated them but they are two converging points that are the premise of his whole work and his way of thinking.
1)He refers to Muslim lands, societies, governments as jahiliyah societies(pre-Islamic ones). Why?
2)Because they don’t rule by what Allah has revealed and instead their governments and societies are ruled by man made laws. For Qutb it is clear that he believes that the Muslims have became ignorant of their faith and that this ignorance is in regards to إن الحكم إلا الله . And that one does not have truth faith unless he also believes that the legislation only belongs to Allah. That the Muslims must be reeducated and reminded that the testimony of faith also means that you accept and believe that the legislation belongs to Allah and not man made systems . In his view Islamic governments and societies ceased to be Islamic once they abandoned the Shariah and instead followed western and eastern man made laws.


His work has been interpreted by many Islamic groups after him that the Muslim governments in our times are kuffar, systems of Kufur and for the very far takfiris that even the Muslims under such kufur rule are gaalo. This in turn means everything is fair game, the blood of the government and its citizens is fair game.
That is the interpretation of those who went full to the right.

And then you have many of the Muslim brotherhood, moderates and others who try to say that isn’t what Qutb intended. Rather that is solely the interpretation of those groups and their own understanding of his writings. They say that Qutb didn’t do takfir of any individual Muslims or communities. Rather by Jahiliyah he was talking about the system, values, concepts in place, and not individuals or communities. For example, Qutb says

A jahili society is a society in which Islam is not applied and is not governed by its doctrine, concepts, values, standards, behavior, system, and laws..."
" In the Shade of the Qur'an, Vol. 2, p. 37.”

Elsewhere, he defines his intention by it: "It declares secularism as an approach to legislation, and even to all of life. Some of them have established laws of their own accord that contradict God's law, and they say about them: 'This is God's law.'"

The supporters of Qutb say, the use of the word Jahiliyah by Qutb isn’t one that relates to disbelief but it is rather similar to the Hadith of Abu Dharr. Did the Prophet s.a.w mean that Abu Dharr disbelieved or did he mean that he has a characteristic of pre Islamic jahiliya still in his behavior that needs to be changed?

Abu Dharr said: There was an altercation between me and one of the persons among my brothers. His mother was a non-Arab. I reproached him for his mother. He complained against me to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ). As I met Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) he said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (in him the remnants) of the days (of Ignorance).

And they use as evidence that he didn’t believe in takfir of all Muslims due to His tafsiir of this verse

"And do not say to one who offers you peace, 'You are not a believer'" (An-Nisa': 94), Qutub says:"Islam here is satisfied with verbally uttering the word, for there is no evidence to contradict it."


However, intended or unintended, misinterpreted or not, some of the statements of Qutb and sayings are clear inspirations for all takfiiri groups for example

Sayyid Qutb said: “Time has turned back to the way it was when this religion came to humanity with ‘There is no god but God’! Humanity has reverted to the worship of servants, to the injustice of religions, and has turned away from ‘There is no god but God,’ even though a group of them continues to repeat from the minarets: ‘There is no god but God!’ without understanding its meaning, without meaning this meaning while repeating it, and without rejecting the legitimacy of the sovereignty that servants claim for themselves, which is synonymous with divinity, whether they claim it as individuals, or as legislative formations, or as peoples. Individuals, like formations, like peoples, are not gods, so they do not have the right to sovereignty... However, humanity has returned to ignorance and has turned away from ‘There is no god but God,’ so it has given these servants the characteristics of divinity, and has no longer unified God, and has no loyalty to Him... Humanity as a whole, including those who repeat from the minarets in the East and West the words ‘There is no god but God,’ without meaning or reality...


How else could one interpret this? Other than that real Islam doesn’t exist, the Muslims have disbelieved on mass due their ignorance of hakamiyyah and that without the belief and application of إن الحكم إلا الله that the Muslims, their leaders and governments are all outside the faith of Islam?
 
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@Kun_Ciil stop trying to sanitize his ideology. feeling bad about muslim weakness gives no justification to his ideology. what "thinking" is he doing? oh yes takfir humanity. he was not a scholar. he was not a student of knowledge. he spoke on major sensitives issues like takfir with ignorance. he was an eloquent layman who was great in arabic language.



Let’s take Moses; he is an example of an impulsive leader with a volatile temper....
https://archive.org/details/nmt_670/page/n199/mode/2up

....Muawiyah's victory was the greatest catastrophe that struck the spirit of Islam, which has not yet been overcome by the souls of the people......
https://archive.org/details/qaisalkanas_gmail/page/n243/mode/2up

.....Muslims are not waging jihad today! This is because Muslims do not exist today! The issue of the existence of Islam and the existence of Muslims is what needs to be addressed today....
https://archive.org/details/ThilalQuran/delalquraan3/page/134/mode/2up
 
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from his book. his blasphemous statements in his book called "in the shade of the Quran" are disgusting.

https://quran-tafsir.net/qotb/sura53-aya1.html

Surah An-Najm is Meccan, and it contains sixty-two verses.

This Surah, in its entirety, is like a celestial musical composition, melodious and harmonious. The modulation flows through its verbal structure just as it flows in the rhythm of its measured and rhymed verses. This modulation can be observed throughout the Surah in general, and its intent becomes particularly clear in certain places. A word may have been added or a rhyme carefully chosen to ensure the smoothness of the modulation and the precision of its rhythm—alongside the intended meaning it conveys in the context, as is typical in Quranic expression.

For example, consider the verse: "Have you seen Al-Lat and Al-Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other?" If it had said "and Manat, the other," the rhythm would have been disrupted. If it had said "and Manat, the third," the rhyme would have been compromised. Every word has its value in the meaning of the phrase. But attention to the rhythm and rhyme is also noticeable here. Similarly, the word "إذن" (then) in the rhyme of the two following verses: "Do you prefer the male and reject the female?" "That is an unfair division!" The word "إذن" is necessary for the meter, even though it also serves a functional purpose in the expression.

And so it goes.

سورة النجم مكية وآياتها ثنتان وستون
هذه السورة في عمومها كأنها منظومة موسيقية علوية ، منغمة ، يسري التنغيم في بنائها اللفظي كما يسري في إيقاع فواصلها الموزونة المقفاة . ويلحظ هذا التنغيم في السورة بصفة عامة ؛ ويبدو القصد فيه واضحا في بعض المواضع ؛ وقد زيدت لفظة أو اختيرت قافية ، لتضمن سلامة التنغيم ودقة إيقاعه - إلى جانب المعنى المقصود الذي تؤديه في السياق كما هي عادة التعبير القرآني - مثل ذلك قوله : ( أفرأيتم اللات والعزى . ومناة الثالثة الأخرى ) . . فلو قال ومناة الأخرى ينكسر الوزن . ولو قال : ومناة الثالثة فقط يتعطل إيقاع القافية ولكل كلمة قيمتها في معنى العبارة . ولكن مراعاة الوزن والقافية كذلك ملحوظة . ومثلها كلمة( إذن )في وزن الآيتين بعدها : ألكم الذكر وله الأنثى ? تلك إذا قسمة ضيزى ! وكلمة( إذن )ضرورية للوزن . وإن كانت - مع هذا - تؤدي غرضا فنيا في العبارة . . . وهكذا .
 
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Kun_Ciil said:
The truth of the matter is that Qutb along with Maududi is one of the most influential and prominent Islamic thinkers and writers in the last century. I’m not saying he is perfect or without mistakes(will highlight the issues a bit more later), but looking at his time and his ideas he was indeed a man who loved Islam and wanted the law of Allah to be established amongst the Muslim nations once again. May God have mercy on him and forgive him for any mistakes.

One has to remember that during his time, the Muslims for the first time in history came under a long period of colonization. This colonization brought about the demolition of Islamic systems and Shariah Law whilst replacing them with western thinking, modernity, system of governances. Many Muslims in turn due to the military, economic superiority of the west, became enamored with the western system and viewed it as the best system for worldly advancement and governance. When the colonizers left, they may have left physically but their intellectual colonization was still present in the Muslim lands and the political elite they left behind, just as in Qutb day, it is still the same today.


Qutb sought to highlight this mental slavery, instill the lofty values of Islam amongst the Muslims and show them that they have been given a blessed system called Islam and that the sovereignty of legislation only belongs to Allah and not man. His work mainly focuses around this, that all systems in the Muslim lands are remnants of colonization and a transgression against the original Muslim position that the Law/legislation only belongs to Allah.

Also it should be noted that him and many of the Muslim brotherhood members were tortured, killed and imprisoned. For what? Calling to the establishment of Islamic system and leaving these western inventions. Therefore in his writing, he views the Egyptian state as a hostile state against Islam and a suppressor of the will of the Muslims(and if you think he was lying, look at what happened to Morsi and the ikhwan after being elected democratically and peacefully.)


Now I will try to point out the main two issues that people have with his writings. There are other Islamic mistakes, even in his Tafsiir work, but a lot of scholars(even salafi) ones excuse him of this because Qutb was not an Islamic scholar with deep understanding of Islamic fiqh or usuul tafsiir. If anything, Qutub was a great writer, a man writing about contemporary issues and a caller to the revival of the Islamic system.

Anyways, the three main issues in his work that have become a fuel for people with takfiiri thinking are

1)His concept of labelling all Muslim societies and governments as Jahiliya societies(pre-Islamic societies)

2)Tawxiid Hakamiyah( The Sovereignty of Legislation- Ruling by what Allah has revealed)

3)His different stance to early Hassan Al Bana thinking, and more non-violence members of the Muslim brotherhood. A lot of Muslim brotherhood believed in the idea that that an Islamic system could be brought about by peaceful means. By giving dacwa, teaching people about the importance of following an Islamic system, and working within the system and current society until naturally the government became an Islamic government. However, Qutb although he believed in a similar path, he also held the view that most Muslim governments were hostile forces against Islam and so believed that if the Islamic movement was threatened by force then they could use force as a deterrent to preserve the Islamic movement.


Now the two main points, I separated them but they are two converging points that are the premise of his whole work and his way of thinking.
1)He refers to Muslim lands, societies, governments as jahiliyah societies(pre-Islamic ones). Why?
2)Because they don’t rule by what Allah has revealed and instead their governments and societies are ruled by man made laws. For Qutb it is clear that he believes that the Muslims have became ignorant of their faith and that this ignorance is in regards to إن الحكم إلا الله . And that one does not have truth faith unless he also believes that the legislation only belongs to Allah. That the Muslims must be reeducated and reminded that the testimony of faith also means that you accept and believe that the legislation belongs to Allah and not man made systems . In his view Islamic governments and societies ceased to be Islamic once they abandoned the Shariah and instead followed western and eastern man made laws.


His work has been interpreted by many Islamic groups after him that the Muslim governments in our times are kuffar, systems of Kufur and for the very far takfiris that even the Muslims under such kufur rule are gaalo. This in turn means everything is fair game, the blood of the government and its citizens is fair game.
That is the interpretation of those who went full to the right.

And then you have many of the Muslim brotherhood, moderates and others who try to say that isn’t what Qutb intended. Rather that is solely the interpretation of those groups and their own understanding of his writings. They say that Qutb didn’t do takfir of any individual Muslims or communities. Rather by Jahiliyah he was talking about the system, values, concepts in place, and not individuals or communities. For example, Qutb says

A jahili society is a society in which Islam is not applied and is not governed by its doctrine, concepts, values, standards, behavior, system, and laws..."
" In the Shade of the Qur'an, Vol. 2, p. 37.”

Elsewhere, he defines his intention by it: "It declares secularism as an approach to legislation, and even to all of life. Some of them have established laws of their own accord that contradict God's law, and they say about them: 'This is God's law.'"

The supporters of Qutb say, the use of the word Jahiliyah by Qutb isn’t one that relates to disbelief but it is rather similar to the Hadith of Abu Dharr. Did the Prophet s.a.w mean that Abu Dharr disbelieved or did he mean that he has a characteristic of pre Islamic jahiliya still in his behavior that needs to be changed?

Abu Dharr said: There was an altercation between me and one of the persons among my brothers. His mother was a non-Arab. I reproached him for his mother. He complained against me to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ). As I met Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) he said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (in him the remnants) of the days (of Ignorance).

And they use as evidence that he didn’t believe in takfir of all Muslims due to His tafsiir of this verse

"And do not say to one who offers you peace, 'You are not a believer'" (An-Nisa': 94), Qutub says:"Islam here is satisfied with verbally uttering the word, for there is no evidence to contradict it."


However, intended or unintended, misinterpreted or not, some of the statements of Qutb and sayings are clear inspirations for all takfiiri groups for example

Sayyid Qutb said: “Time has turned back to the way it was when this religion came to humanity with ‘There is no god but God’! Humanity has reverted to the worship of servants, to the injustice of religions, and has turned away from ‘There is no god but God,’ even though a group of them continues to repeat from the minarets: ‘There is no god but God!’ without understanding its meaning, without meaning this meaning while repeating it, and without rejecting the legitimacy of the sovereignty that servants claim for themselves, which is synonymous with divinity, whether they claim it as individuals, or as legislative formations, or as peoples. Individuals, like formations, like peoples, are not gods, so they do not have the right to sovereignty... However, humanity has returned to ignorance and has turned away from ‘There is no god but God,’ so it has given these servants the characteristics of divinity, and has no longer unified God, and has no loyalty to Him... Humanity as a whole, including those who repeat from the minarets in the East and West the words ‘There is no god but God,’ without meaning or reality...


How else could one interpret this? Other than that real Islam doesn’t exist, the Muslims have disbelieved on mass due their ignorance of hakamiyyah and that without the belief and application of إن الحكم إلا الله that the Muslims, their leaders and governments are all outside the faith of Islam?
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The one who doesn't rule what Allah swt revealed isn't a kaffir unless he makes istahala
 
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