Onlf 38 anniversary party in Puntland

[DR OSMAN]

No Yusuf is right. Puntland should only be for Harti and Darood yaryar and all foreiners should be kept away. That way you stay safe and peaceful

Insha Allah this is what I advocate for Jubbaland. All non Absame should be deported one day and told to get the hell out since Absame conquered the land from gaalo madow and was the first

you lot doing that in puntland would give us the excuse we need to do that in Jubbaland. I know cynical.

I want each clan to keep to her native domain where their 10th ancestors or more are buried so hopefully we can do a quick balkanisation and make the 6 regions go their own separate ways.

I am not like @DR OSMAN who eBay’s around the bush and wants a stealth balkanisation but uses fancy words like 25 years independent state and 99 year independence then we talk blah blah. Just be a man and say you want out of this hell hole failed white made colonial useless project with a 40 civil war

I don't like '1 sided extreme solutions' and I prefer 'pilot solutions or interim solutions' so we don't rock or shake the somali psyche with a massive change that is to quick they can't handle. That's why I prefer a pilot or interim solution so they get used to it.

A 99 year 'treaty' of independence will be sufficient for us in Puntland with 25 year 'federal union reviews'. I chose 25 year time-line becuz it can be seen as a 'once in a generation' somalinimo 'shout out' and if noone responds well we go back to 99 year treaty and come back in another 25 years.

I say this model is best becuz we have unionists n secessionist among our population and we need a model to satisfy both. Plus the international community prefer 'pilot solutions' first before drastic policy changes.

The other thing is, if Somalia does get it's act together and PL is some-what failing, we can always re-join due to our treaty stating we are still federalist. In politics u need plan A and B

 

[DR OSMAN]

@peacemaker you are a 'radical' and 'radicals' don't win politics but 'strategists' do. PL treaty of independence is best becuz 1. There is no federalism. 2. The instability is on-going in south. These are constitutional conditions can allow us to sit down and discuss our plan B option which is 'independence'.

The only question is what type of 'model' will we agree on since their is die hard unionists among us. The model I proposed can satisfy both unionist n secessionist for at least 100 years. It can satisfy the international community our 'indepedence is an interim solution' untill the south gets it's act together. It can keep SL isolated since their not on-board for 'federation' and PL independence status and Somaliland will be clearly 'different'.

All I want is a model that can give us peace n stability for 100 years(5 generations) and develop our international profile and if such time comes where the south is where it is in 100 years, we would've developed our state profile in the international stage and can completely cut the cord, extend the treaty, or re-join somalia. So even our descendants will have '3' options to execute at the end of the treaty.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@peacemaker PL can discuss 5 models of independence.

1. Confederation model which will mean all regional states have the same status
2. PL own unique 99 independence treaty model and 25 year federal union reviews
3. Begging recognition around the world like SL and being isolated becuz we not following proper procedures.
4. Two systems one Nation model like China and Hong Kong where 'hong kong' status can be applied to all the regions or just PL
5. Full balkanization

Out of all those models, which one do u think looks 'realistic' to achieving our objective? Take note u need to satisfy unionists/secessionist internally in your region n nation wide plus u need to satisfy international stakeholders.

 

[peacemaker]

@peacemaker PL can discuss 5 models of independence.

1. Confederation model which will mean all regional states have the same status
2. PL own unique 99 independence treaty model and 25 year federal union reviews
3. Begging recognition around the world like SL and being isolated becuz we not following proper procedures.
4. Two systems one Nation model like China and Hong Kong where 'hong kong' status can be applied to all the regions or just PL
5. Full balkanization

Out of all those models, which one do u think looks 'realistic' to achieving our objective? Take note u need to satisfy unionists/secessionist internally in your region n nation wide plus u need to satisfy international stakeholders.

kkkkk you should read some news. China violated the two system which was meant to last till 2047 50 years and they placed a puppet as executive as well as their own army and banned free media

anyways your over thinking this and you ironically call Somalis simply people who should not be confused with radical stuff but your confusing the simple folks with so many options and strategies.

your great strategic person with your so many options and loopholes. Carry on my Sun Tzu strategic friend kkkkkk

 

[peacemaker]

@peacemaker Somalia is indivisible and Jubaland is very diverse clan wise, Ogaden are only maximum 40% in JL I predict

Did your mother give you those figures langabyahow?

regadless Ogaden conquered the land first from gaalo madow when your primitive clan was niko dancing in Hiraan and we ruled it and fought off the British empire

how about you focus on you little clans tiny tuulo rather than get your mouth into lands that do not concern you?

 

[DR OSMAN]

kkkkk you should read some news. China violated the two system which was meant to last till 2047 50 years and they placed a puppet as executive as well as their own army and banned free media

anyways your over thinking this and you ironically call Somalis simply people who should not be confused with radical stuff but your confusing the simple folks with so many options and strategies.

your great strategic person with your so many options and loopholes. Carry on my Sun Tzu strategic friend kkkkkk

Maybe we can call it the Punjub treaty and apply it to both PL/JL who will enjoy 99 years independence and every 25 years will do federal union review.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@peacemaker whether u like it or not we need 'pilot or interim independence solution' to satisfy the I.C and Somalis across the board, radical solutions won't be taken serious untill we 'transition' into independence or federalism whatever it may be. It's like u want a job but won't do the probation period, it's not logical your views.

 

[peacemaker]

@peacemaker PL can discuss 5 models of independence.

1. Confederation model which will mean all regional states have the same status
2. PL own unique 99 independence treaty model and 25 year federal union reviews
3. Begging recognition around the world like SL and being isolated becuz we not following proper procedures.
4. Two systems one Nation model like China and Hong Kong where 'hong kong' status can be applied to all the regions or just PL
5. Full balkanization

Out of all those models, which one do u think looks 'realistic' to achieving our objective? Take note u need to satisfy unionists/secessionist internally in your region n nation wide plus u need to satisfy international stakeholders.

i hope someone like you never leads puntland. Your a curse to them. It’s because your mixed race with inferior hooto blood reer abti. You father should have cancelled that wedding

we need a pure blood MJ who cares about puntland and the future of all the natives and I hope one day he will say enough with this failed 60 year old colonial project and we are going back to what we used to be Majerteeniya

by the way stop being embarrassed calling it Majerteeniya. Be like Ogaden and call it it what it was and force the langabs to kiss the ring

I know Ogadeniya was conquered by Absame and all non Absame are guests and other harti and Darood yaryar are natives to puntland but so what. Who dies for the land ? Who defends it ? Who spends his treasure ?

or atleast call the MJ areas Majerteeniya. Why is me a foreign ajanabi shisheye cares more about your country Puntland than you ? Because your mixed mud shark with low quality blood

If you were pure asli halal full blooded MJ you would have been like the halal MJ in here and you would have said proudly PIM let’s leave this failed project we could not share a land with these who2 creatures whoSe only invention is sparoo. Violence. Looting and other things one cannot mention online

lick my cagdheer feet. I hope they arrest you for being mixed race mud shark since your a traitor to the interest of Puntland

I hate traitors of any nation or race. Did your reer abti whisper “somalinimo” crap in your ear ? Your reer abti won’t matter in 100 years. Place MJ interest first.

 

[Dima&Damo]

i hope someone like you never leads puntland. Your a curse to them. It’s because your mixed race with inferior hooto blood reer abti. You father should have cancelled that wedding

we need a pure blood MJ who cares about puntland and the future of all the natives and I hope one day he will say enough with this failed 60 year old colonial project and we are going back to what we used to be Majerteeniya

by the way stop being embarrassed calling it Majerteeniya. Be like Ogaden and call it it what it was and force the langabs to kiss the ring

I know Ogadeniya was conquered by Absame and all non Absame are guests and other harti and Darood yaryar are natives to puntland but so what. Who dies for the land ? Who defends it ? Who spends his treasure ?

or atleast call the MJ areas Majerteeniya. Why is me a foreign ajanabi shisheye cares more about your country Puntland than you ? Because your mixed mud shark with low quality blood

If you were pure asli halal full blooded MJ you would have been like the halal MJ in here and you would have said proudly PIM let’s leave this failed project we could not share a land with these who2 creatures whoSe only invention is sparoo. Violence. Looting and other things one cannot mention online

lick my cagdheer feet. I hope they arrest you for being mixed race mud shark since your a traitor to the interest of Puntland

I hate traitors of any nation or race. Did your reer abti whisper “somalinimo” crap in your ear ? Your reer abti won’t matter in 100 years. Place MJ interest first.

 

[peacemaker]

Maybe we can call it the Punjub treaty and apply it to both PL/JL who will enjoy 99 years independence and every 25 years will do federal union review.

No Thanks. To hell with your Punjub. Even if it was JubPunt I would not accept it.

I am happy to trade as I believe in the free market capitalism and you can trade with your neighbour Ogadeniya

but if I was in charge of Jubbaland Insha Allah all non Absame would be offered to be executed or leave the land with in 4 hours of me taking over Insha Allah.

I do not want foreiners to breath the oxygen of the lands our Absame forefathers conquered. Madoobe is mixed race mud shark like you. Both are weak and betray the ideals of the ethnicities they belong to and are obsessed with somalinimo

when madoobe leaves Insha Allah and we get a neo nazi Marehan and all other foreigners in Waamo will cry for his return

I want you to do the same for puntland mud shark mixed race dr osman and clear all non natives and prepare to depart with PIM. Even the few Absame in puntland send them to Ogadeniya or Jubbalnd.

in fact I would have sent planes to take them immediately to Waamo.

once every clan is in the confines of their ancestral domain which will be where their 10th awow or higher is buried we will do a big fake referendum and kill this fake nation

insha Allah that is the plan. We need strong ruthless swift leadership who do not waste time with 99 and 25 year crap. Who even has time tom remember all your silly rules. As if moryaans from central Somalis will actually have the mental capacity to respect it or even understand

when your dealing with an animal you think like an animal. Should be easy for you. Half of your blood is them. You danced their niko and ate their cambulo

there is zero benefit to being part of Somalia. As soon as alshabab is defeated and moryaan from west gedo are dealt with who siad barre brought into west gedo from babile Ethiopia. We need to declare we are o ur of somalia. Insha Allah the sooner the better

 

[peacemaker]

@peacemaker whether u like it or not we need 'pilot or interim independence solution' to satisfy the I.C and Somalis across the board, radical solutions won't be taken serious untill we 'transition' into independence or federalism whatever it may be. It's like u want a job but won't do the probation period, it's not logical your views.

since your being cordial and not insulting me as usually I will come back to being a gentleman

my apologise for being a bit strong with my language

I think these things you call strategies live in your head very nicely. But get the opinions of others

one thing I am counting on is soon Insha Allah next 10-20 years puntland will be lead by people who never saw a stable Somalia like our parents thus no nostalgia to be part of Somalia

then I hope they will do a PIM and leave this shythole failed project you want your pieple to be part of yet benefit absolutely nothing from

name me 10 things puntland gets from villa somalia puntland does not do for her self ?

or make it just 5. That Puntland benefits by being part of Somalia.

Puntland has absolutely zero benefits being part of Somalia. Zero. Villa Somalia farmajo stole every penny for 5 years. Zero benefits

 

[DR OSMAN]

@peacemaker in all fairness to my abtis, they spend their local revenues on payin somalis in the federal govt, but in return for that they got Turkey rebuilding their city(ironically none of them see this) and that's enough of a trade-off.

What their doing now is they want to loot international aid for Somalia which I am totally against. We should go to Nairobi u dummy and meet with I.C embassies or development banks and tell them that Somalia is mismanaging aid money and we want 'direct' access. We should never of handed international aid money to Mogadishu untill the rule of law is enforced and constitution is complete.

 

[peacemaker]

@peacemaker in all fairness to my abtis, they spend their local revenues on payin somalis in the federal govt, but in return for that they got Turkey rebuilding their city(ironically none of them see this) and that's enough of a trade-off.

What their doing now is they want to loot international aid for Somalia which I am totally against. We should go to Nairobi u dummy and meet with I.C embassies or development banks and tell them that Somalia is mismanaging aid money and we want 'direct' access.

in all fairness your reer abti looted Somalia. Sold her planes and ships and played drugs and raped the narion for 40 years and then they keep 100% of all the Somalia loans and grants and they shoot anyone who starts a business in xamar who is not them

and they also charge Somalia with a bill called loans every year where they borrow billions in our name which our great grandchildren will still be paying if we do not leave

 

[DR OSMAN]

@peacemaker im not sure why the I.C keeps dropping money into the central bank of Somalia, it should argue any funds mis-used or not allocated to the PL/JL will see no more funds coming. We should presssure the I.C embassies n development banks in my opinion to hand funds directly to the region untill somalia constitution is complete and the rule of law is established. Till then we must show them their no way we can just trust the good-will of the SFG.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

@peacemaker im not sure why the I.C keeps dropping money into the central bank of Somalia, it should argue any funds mis-used or not allocated to the PL/JL will see no more funds coming. We should presssure the I.C embassies n development banks in my opinion to hand funds directly to the region untill somalia constitution is complete and the rule of law is established. Till then we must show them their no way we can just trust the good-will of the SFG.

Warya ditore @DR OSMAN leave mj jubbaland affair to mj jubbalander xaryo xarku dhaleey

 

[InaShaqalle]

Did your mother give you those figures langabyahow?

regadless Ogaden conquered the land first from gaalo madow when your primitive clan was niko dancing in Hiraan and we ruled it and fought off the British empire

how about you focus on you little clans tiny tuulo rather than get your mouth into lands that do not concern you?

No need to get angry my long foot pet, Blackie only rules just TWO districts Kismayo and Afmadow as @TekNiKo reminds us consistently only because of fufu colonialist KDF. Don't worry though once SNA liberates Middle Juba, HSM will set up a parallel new JL government that is under his control and will allow HSM to govern both Gedo and Middle Juba

 

[Oday-yar]

No need to get angry my long foot pet, Blackie only rules just TWO districts Kismayo and Afmadow as @TekNiKo reminds us consistently only because of fufu colonialist KDF. Don't worry though once SNA liberates Middle Juba, HSM will set up a parallel new JL government that is under his control and will allow HSM to govern both Gedo and Middle Juba

when the fufus leave next year, we'll see who has the most guns in somalia.
you better come and fight since you make 60% of JL, should be easy win for you.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

when the fufus leave next year, we'll see who has the most guns in somalia.
you better come and fight since you make 60% of JL, should be easy win for you.

Jubbaland xinyaheygan ku joga boowe inshallah Majerteeen dirty south should mobilize 50k territory defender who will die in honor to protect thier land and people

 

[peacemaker]

No need to get angry my long foot pet, Blackie only rules just TWO districts Kismayo and Afmadow as @TekNiKo reminds us consistently only because of fufu colonialist KDF. Don't worry though once SNA liberates Middle Juba, HSM will set up a parallel new JL government that is under his control and will allow HSM to govern both Gedo and Middle Juba

Shut up my short semi jarer hooto langab Pet

why don you set up a parallel government for the huutos against alshabab?

garac nijas ah, obsessed with other mans lands when his own people are dying of starvation

hasan sheikh kulaha, horta go and free the 7 nations that escort hassan shiekh to the toilet, why dont the magic powerful huuuto guard hassan sheikh in villa somalia instead of 7 nations ?

 

[InaShaqalle]

Shut up my short semi jarer hooto langab Pet

why don you set up a parallel government for the huutos against alshabab?

garac nijas ah, obsessed with other mans lands when his own people are dying of starvation

hasan sheikh kulaha, horta go and free the 7 nations that escort hassan shiekh to the toilet, why dont the magic powerful huuuto guard hassan sheikh in villa somalia instead of 7 nations ?

Well does Kenya help Hamza go to the toilet in Villa Somalia? You don't control Middle Juba nor Gedo so don't get emotional with me boy