Odayaasha Hawiye "Shabeelada Hoose Unuka Leh, Koonfur Galbeed Qeyb Libaax baan Ka rabnaa".

[Ranger1007]

A Mirifle's worst enemy is not an hawiye but infact MX. Because Mirifles live in Gedo like Luuq and Baardhere. And they are treated like Looma ooyaan. That's why I believe this ABZ guy is MX.

True, unlike HG who brought business and prosperity (international banana export companies) marehan confiscated all the farmland from eelay there. digil weren’t displaced and instead it was flourishing exporting bananas abroad and across country.Thats why gedo region is going through drought and food insecurity marehan aren’t a farmer clan. Gedo has long river and can grow enough food to feed itself and others just like lower shabelle which is prospering.

 

[abz1991]

A Mirifle's worst enemy is not an hawiye but infact MX. Because Mirifles live in Gedo like Luuq and Baardhere. And they are treated like Looma ooyaan. That's why I believe this ABZ guy is MX.

I speak for D&M rights in all places. Wether it be in Gedo, Jubooyinka, Shabeelada hoose and Xamar. Gedo is a D&M Gobol and whatever representation I am missing there it's something that I will advocate for same way I advocate for my representation in LS/Xamar.

 

[abz1991]

True, unlike HG who brought business and prosperity (international banana export companies) marehan confiscated all the farmland from eelay there. digil weren’t displaced and instead it was flourishing exporting bananas abroad and across country.Thats why gedo region is going through drought and food insecurity marehan aren’t a farmer clan. Gedo has long river and can grow enough food to feed itself and others just like lower shabelle which is prospering.

Do you know that 80% of Gedo is D&M. MX are only majority in the cities. If you look at the tuuloyin around every degmo in Gedo it is Majority Reewing. Baardheere Luuq Doolow Buurdhuubo towns are mixed but tuuloyin are majority Reewing. Even Garbahaarey and Baladxaawo.

 

[convincation]

In the last population estimation of Somalia in 2014, lower shabelle was 55-60% Digil, 30% Hawiye and 10% Biimal.
https://euaa.europa.eu/country-guidance-somalia-2022/lower-shabelle

Also many places in lower shabelle are still under al shabab like most of the sablaale and baraawe district which is easily explainable as it will never be able for a foreign force like the hawiye SNA militias to effectivly protect the area from al shabaab. If you want to destroy al shabaab, you need to recruit troops from the local area and give power back to the locals, else they will just support al shabaab.
This is not the 90's and you can't build a state with unukaleh thinking

Both the Digil and Biimaal percentages are atleast 50% if not more Bantu. Hawiye are the largest ethnically Somali group in Lowee shabelle

 

[Ranger1007]

Do you know that 80% of Gedo is D&M. MX are only majority in the cities. If you look at the tuuloyin around every degmo in Gedo it is Majority Reewing. Baardheere Luuq Doolow Buurdhuubo towns are mixed but tuuloyin are majority Reewing. Even Garbahaarey and Baladxaawo.

If that was true gedo wouldn’t be starving, D&M are farmer clan the only reason there’s starvation in bay and bakool isn’t the land it’s AS displacing and blockading the major cities/towns. This is what laftagareen has done nothing about yet he’s on your dp

 

[Leila]

Hawiye elders saying they have right to VP of Koonfur Galbeed as well as saying they dislike Laftagareen. Hawiye have excess representation in KG and should lose some representation in my opinion let alone gain more.

Which subclans are these Hawiye elders? Hawiye natives of LS such as Wacdaan and Silcis live peacefully with Digil.

 

[abz1991]

Which subclans are these Hawiye elders? Hawiye natives of LS such as Wacdaan and Silcis live peacefully with Digil.

Beesha HG

 

[Jiron]

Are you really Reewing? Or are you a Sheegad?

What do you mean the land is big enough for all of us?

So Hawiye land is for Hawiye only and Daarood land is strictly to be claimed by Hawiye, but Reewing land is shared by Somaliweyne. That makes absolutely no sense.

If we say that Somalia Somali baa leh then Hargeisa Bosaso Dhuusamareeb needs to be shared with Reewing. But I will not accept my land to be shared while other lands are strictly owned by certain Qabiils.

Jiron Withaayow , you have a lot to learn. This welcoming mentality is the mentality that has made us lose our lands. We need to know this lands are ours and they will be controlled by us.

brother the whole country should be shared equally. The division never stops, we must realize this and learn to accept each other

 

[bidenkulaha]

I think the mudulood yar yar are natives to the afgooye vicinity and they’re powerless themselves too. Why didnt abgaal militia not move into afgooye? Hg saleeban and ceyr have captured most of the LS in the 90s and run it today. Mirifle are the hardcore ones and they live in bakool and bay these ones in the LS are masaakiin.

This myth that Cayr moved in 90s isn’t true either. There’s been Cayr sub clans living in shabellaha Hoose for a very long time. But more Cayr sub clans defo came to help in the wars and have moved because of the riches in land and water

 

[Mount23]

Listen to this well-informed Digil and Mirifle man narrating what happened in South West of Somalia from 1991 to the present.

Is this guy Ethnic Somali or Bantu?? Alot these Bantus claiming they are Digi and Miirifle when they are not

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Laftagareen subclan is asal ahaan booni. And you have internalised the boon bah dil as your name kkkkk maskiin.

I don't think about you lot and I'd never even mention you if you'd stick to your own affairs.

you got caught red handed, ain't nobody wanna hear you now, don't you have an AMISOM officer you suppose to cook muufo for

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Do you know that 80% of Gedo is D&M. MX are only majority in the cities. If you look at the tuuloyin around every degmo in Gedo it is Majority Reewing. Baardheere Luuq Doolow Buurdhuubo towns are mixed but tuuloyin are majority Reewing. Even Garbahaarey and Baladxaawo.

It goes without saying that we as MX support justice and thus Raxanweyn right to rule KG all of it, and the reality is Lower Shabelle is mixed with Cadcads, Tuni, Biyomal, Gaaljecel and Raxanweyn, even some Hawiyo like Mudulood as you said, the point is the majority rule minority right.

Using that logic, you should never ever question the power share between clans in Gedo who are all MX sub clans, because even if you live there which I outright deny, you are only there as IDP, you are still a tiny minority, a welcomed minority, but don't push your luck.

The only clan that has been given position of power in Gedo is the Garre who we gave post in Ceelwaaq in exchange for support in NFD.

 

[Rationale]

you got caught red handed, ain't nobody wanna hear you now, don't you have an AMISOM officer you suppose to cook muufo for

You've been opening threads on Abgaal and even going as far as mentioning me in them, just to get a reaction. I see you as irrelevant periphery clan who keep foolishly using all their meager resources to punch way above their weight class.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

This myth that Cayr moved in 90s isn’t true either. There’s been Cayr sub clans living in shabellaha Hoose for a very long time. But more Cayr sub clans defo came to help in the wars and have moved because of the riches in land and water

Ceyr were airlifted during the 1974 droughts But the wacdaan are natives there. I would love to read if you have any sources mentioning ceyr in lower shabele from the 1800s

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

You've been opening threads on Abgaal and even going as far as mentioning me in them, just to get a reaction. I see you as irrelevant periphery clan who keep foolishly using all their meager resources to punch way above their weight class.

I did indeed sir, got a problem ?

but the difference between us is I say it with chest, I don't mention Apegaal randomly in threads that have nothing to do with you donkeys, that is below the belt.

 

[World]

Ceyr were airlifted during the 1974 droughts But the wacdaan are natives there. I would love to read if you have any sources mentioning ceyr in lower shabele from the 1800s

there was not a single HG living in Lower Shabelle in the 1932 italian census

 

[Saciid]

Hariin does not have Boon. They are split into Hoon iyo Waraasile.

He is not Ajuuraan. Every Qabiil has Ajuuraan Sheegads since when their sultanate collapsed they became Sheegads to all the local Qabiils for protection.

All D&M clans have "boon" subs, like Afar Wediye amongst Leysaan Orsi. Many "boon" clans claim Ajuraan ties, due to working under the Sultanate before being assimilated under D&M