No Xishood having Xalimo holds a burping contest with her racially ambiguous ajnabi boyfriend

[Gooney112]

Besides me getting cheated on.

I just see multiple debates going on.

Idk why.

How tf y’all go from burping to killing daughters.

But anyways this been a rough morning.
Might rope

Pussy has driven greater man than you mad....My friend chased a car cause the girl he liked went in a car with a guy and something in his mind told him she was kidnapped and tried to save her. Sadly the car was much faster than him

 

[Gooney112]

What if he suddenly kills and she's no more?!! His punishment is non existent. He's the custodian the legal guardian and he will go free without answering a single question.

No he will not...you cant just kill your kid and say Im the legal custodian

 

[sigmund]

What if he suddenly kills and she's no more?!! His punishment is non existent. He's the custodian the legal guardian and he will go free without answering a single question.

he should repent and i don't know much about this because I'm not THAT knowledgeable when it comes to this

 

[Abdalla]

We're specifically talking about the punishment/Hadood if the action had taken place already.

HalimaJohnson thinks hudud laws apply to stealing and zinaa lool

 

[HalimaJ]

I feel like you guys are not listening to each other. Killing someone is last resort and has to be real major. There are other type of

What if he suddenly kills and she's no more?!! His punishment is non existent. He's the custodian the legal guardian and he will go free without answering a single question.

You are sick sick. Do you think he will be free in the hereafter?

If you lie about Allah and his prophet, hudud laws apply.

Not wearing hijab and intermixing can be classified as spreading corruption on earth and those that spread corruption on earth can have their hands and feet cut on opposite side.

If yoh really think that hudud laws only applg to adultry and stealing then that proves your lack of knowledge.

You have reading comprehension problems. When did i say that hadood punisment is only for adultery?

A couple of minutes ago you didn't even know what hadood is. Laughable.

 

[Jake from State Farm]

Damn y’all niggas really contemplating killing y’alls daughters just cause she hoeing

That’s wild

 

[HalimaJ]

We're specifically talking about the punishment/Hadood if the action had taken place already.

No we are talking about permissabilty.
Just because a father might not be punished in the Dunya does that mean he will be allowed?

Thats my point and its a point you and your friend are trying to skirt around.

Is it allowed islamically for a father to kill his child?

Not if he will be punished by the islamic ruler.

 

[HalimaJ]

killing your own daughter is unlawful bro unless she is an apostate, adulterers or a spy seeking mishcief towards muslim than that is permissible. there are other ways in taming females without resulting in death..

Even then it will be unlawful for the father to take the law into his own hands.

Only the state can issue hadood.

 

[HalimaJ]

HalimaJohnson thinks hudud laws apply to stealing and zinaa lool

You have reading comprehension problems. When did i say that hadood punisment is only for adultery and stealing?

A couple of minutes ago you didn't even know what hadood is. Laughable.

 

[Abdalla]

No he will not...you cant just kill your kid and say Im the legal custodian

If you kill someone, you will face consequence such as paying bloodmoney. If you kill your adult child, you wont face any consrquences. What does that tell you? Same deed, two different rulings.

 

[The alchemist]

You fail to grasp my stance. That’s all well and good. Let’s cut the bullshit and skip to the part where we agree to disagree.

Yooo We may disagree, but you disagree with fax. I mean, how can you dismiss that? You should respond with arguments next time. And i don't understand how u qashin against logic? I may not know you in real life, but i have this image in my head of you, and your response gives me more and more assurance in my ability to accurately evaluate people.

 

[TekNiKo]

A had her son molested by an Ex-

Very interesting angle mudane.


She thought she was educated and underestimated our knowledge. You can see her false sense of superiority and how frustrated she became when she was outmatched. Never ever underestimate others. She thought just because we have laughter here and there that we are ignorant about important aspects of life. She doesnt know that before we choose this lifestyle, we spent years studying the fundamentals of the religion on the hard floors of the masajid. Unlike her we do not need 10+ minutes to consult google, we do it from the top of our heads. Wa lilahil hamd

You totally pwned this chick who is literally copy and pasting articles. I have another tidbit to add, there was a unwritten rule in islam called Kaf'aah or equality (suitablity) in Islam in regards to marriage

The Shāfi'i Position[edit]
According to the Shāfi'i school of thought, kafa'ah concerns the factors of lineage, religiousness, profession, and being free of defects that permit annulling the marriage contract (nikah).[8] It must not be misunderstood as a recommendation of whom to marry. Rather, it should be taken as a legal restriction to protect a woman's interest in her marriage.[8] If a woman wishes to marry someone who is seemingly incompatible based these factors, there is nothing wrong in her doing so.[8] Accordingly, an Arab woman should not marry a non-Arab man; similarly, a virtuous woman should not marry a corrupt man, (though it is sufficient should the husband give up his wrongdoing).[8] A daughter of someone with a higher profession should not marry a man of a lowly profession.[8] The wealth of either parties is not a factor to be considered, as it is merely temporary and "those with self-respect and intelligence do not take pride in it."[8]

This is Imam Shaafici's position, so if a non Arab man should not marry and Arab woman a non Somali man should not marry a Somali woman.

 

[HalimaJ]

If you kill someone, you will face consequence such as paying bloodmoney. If you kill your adult child, you wont face any consrquences. What does that tell you? Same deed, two different rulings.

Why are you using your own interpretation. Please qoute a reputable scholars that says its permissable.

Throughout this whole exchange you have added your own views with regards to that hadith, when i have provided with you scholarly opinion on the matter.

 

[Gooney112]

If you kill someone, you will face consequence such as paying bloodmoney. If you kill your adult child, you wont face any consrquences. What does that tell you? Same deed, two different rulings.

You pay blood money only if the victims family accept to go that route. And you do face consequences of killing your adult child. You cant take a life in islam without a just cause.

 

[Jake from State Farm]

Dawg if my child ting

Then imma give her a stern talking too

“Stop sucking all that penis Elizabeth or I’ll take your car keys away”

Y’all euro niggas are wild af man.

 

[HalimaJ]

Those that are accusing me of copying and pasting. Yes I am and why? Because my mere opinion is not valid. The opinion of scholars and muftis on the issue is more important which is what you lot should be focusing on.

Scholar Abdallah here thinks he can offer fatwas using his own understanding of a hadith. He is using deduction which is not allowed for a layman.

'If that is the case than that means...'

It is not your place to tell people what this means or that means. Leave it to the scholars. Which is why i've repeatedly asked you for scholarly opinion and you have provided me with none. Only a hadith which you preceed to add your own opinion to the meaning.

 

[The alchemist]

If you kill someone, you will face consequence such as paying bloodmoney. If you kill your adult child, you wont face any consrquences. What does that tell you? Same deed, two different rulings.

Wait... what are you advocating? I think you are ignoring one important factor, namely intent. In your argument, if an old man kills his daughter and say he did it because she was a hoe, but in reality was killing her for his own urges like a Dexter thing. How would this scenario play out? Your argument is ignoring complex human psychology.

 

[Gooney112]

Those that are accusing me of copying and pasting. Yes I am and why? Because my mere opinion is not valid. The opinion of scholars and muftis on the issue is more important which is what you lot should be focusing on.

Scholar Abdallah here thinks he can offer fatwas using his own understanding of a hadith. He is using deduction which is not allowed for a layman.

'If that is the case than that means...'

It is not your place to tell people what this means or that means. Leave it to the scholars. Which is why i've repeatedly asked you for scholarly opinion and you have provided me with none. Only a hadith which you preceed to add your own opinion to the meaning.

Who are these scholars? Whats their background?

 

[Abdalla]

Wait... what are you advocating? I think you are ignoring one important factor, namely intent. In your argument, if an old man kills his daughter and say he did it because she was a hoe, but in reality was killing her for his own urges like a Dexter thing. How would this scenario play out? Your argument is ignoring complex human psychology.

Intent? That is for Allah to judge.

 

[HalimaJ]

Who are these scholars? Whats their background?

Mostly from Islamqa which is more hanbali
And islamqa.org which is hanafi.
Both reputable sites.

This is the hanafi opinion:

From the aforementioned ahadith we can derive that if a father killed his son intentionally then the sin the father will receive will be very grave and the consequences in the Hereafter will be severe.

Here is the link:
islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/88162

If you read this fatwa. The scholar is of the opinion the father must pay diya.

But my argument is that every fatwa i have read on the issue all highlighted that killing your child for whatever reason is considered morally reprehensible regardless of the whether the father has to pay diyaa or not.

I think anyone who has a holistic knowledge of Islam can see that murdering your child is despicable.