No, Somalia Is Not Poised for Economic Success

General Asad

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On January 12, Ali Sharif Ahmed, Somalia’s ambassador to the United States, penned an article suggesting Somalia had turned the corner and is poised for success, so long as American taxpayers grant it $1 billion in debt relief.

Alas, many of his declarations appear completely disconnected from reality.

There is no conspiracy against Somalia to deny its rightful place; but the problems Somalia faces—corruption, insecurity, and increasingly dictatorship—are of its own making.

Ambassador Ahmed targets Dr. Michael Rubin for pointing out that the Republic of Somaliland is more peaceful, secure, and democratic than areas controlled by the Somali government in Mogadishu. It is a truism that officials opt for ad hominem attacks when they are unable to win a debate on its merits. Alas, the ambassador must have missed other prominent news outlets that agree with Rubin’s grim assessment of Somalia’s progress against terror. Let me cite only a few of the dozens of such analysis:

1. Somali Terror Group Al Shabab Remains Resilient Despite Setbacks

2. The Somali government’s attention is not focused on defeating al Shabaab

3. 2019 saw record U.S. airstrikes in Somalia. Why is al-Shabab surging?

It is disingenuous at best to claim that the Federal Government of Somalia under President Mohamed Farmajo’s leadership has made any considerable gains against Al-Shabaab who not only have frequently slaughtered scores of civilians but has brazenly killed even government officials in their heavily guarded offices.

Some of the most devastating attacks by Al Shabab under the watch of current the government included the October 14, 2017 massive bombing at the Zobe junction in the heart of capital that left 587 dead and 316 injured and the latest suicide bombing on December 28, 2019 which killed at least 79 people and injured 149 at the Ex-Agoi Junction on the southern outskirts of the beleaguered city. As proof of its infiltration of the government institutions, the terrorist group used a government employee suicide bomber to kill the mayor of the capital and a score of his executives in July 2019 during a meeting in their well-protected office building.

Under Farmajo and Prime Minister Khaire’s leadership, the Federal Government of Somalia (FGS) has managed to alienate and sought to destabilize every member state by trying to install its own handpicked puppets, using US taxpayer funds intended for development or combating terrorism. Thankfully, in many cases, their destabilizing efforts have backfired spectacularly as Jubbaland and Puntland have both shunned the FGS efforts and carried on with their own elections contrary to the South West State where the FGS installed its own henchman and scores of citizens who protested were killed by government forces. It also prompted the government to expel the UN’s top envoy Nicholas Haysom who cited the killing of citizens exercising their right to peaceful protest.

President Farmajo has also proved to be the most hostile leader to Somaliland since Somaliland exited its union with Somalia 30 years ago, choosing low-intensity war over real Somaliland-Somalia talks started by his predecessors.

On countering terrorism, the reality is that Farmajo has embraced the very thing he was supposed to destroy by handing the state intelligence apparatus to people with known ties to Al Shabab terror groups.

Far from being defeated and on the run, Al Shabab seems to be running a more effective government in Mogadishu as the Finance Minister openly admitted that Al Shabab is more effective in collecting taxes than the government and in the same article Mogadishu resident recount their fear of being murdered if they do not pay taxes.

Al Shabab is now attacking neighboring Kenya with alarming frequency; the cancer that Somalia’s Federal Government has failed to excise is menacing the peace of others in the region.

One of the areas Somalia has succeeded is its uncanny ability to hoodwink hapless diplomats in Nairobi to go along with their grand lie that they are making considerable progress in defeating terror. Ambassador Yamamoto would have hard time explaining to Congress how U.S. persons were killed by Al Shabab in Neighboring Kenya in a joint military base.

On the issue of debt relief, let’s get clear on a few things that everyone seems to forget. The Somali government led by the deposed dictator Siad Barre did not borrow to make the lives of average Somali citizen better by building infrastructure and providing education, but he borrowed it to build one of the bloodiest armed forces in Africa. The debt was used to purchase the weapons he used in the massacre of the people of Somaliland. This is why, the people of Somaliland see the issue of debt relief from an entirely different perspective; they believe that the world must pay reparations to the people of Somaliland for funding Siad Barre’s genocide.

Contrary to the ambassador’s wishful assertion, debt relief will have no effect on defeating Al Shabab, because frankly Villa Somalia—Somalia’s equivalent of the White House—has shown no interest in defeating terrorism but as experience has shown us the debt relief for Somalia will only serve to create a new source of funding for Farmajo and his cronies to pillage and continue to be a destabilizing force in the federal member states. To provide $1 billion in debt relief to Somalia would not only be an insult to American taxpayers, but would further rather than resolve conflict in the Horn of Africa.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/no-somalia-not-poised-economic-success-115666
 

DR OSMAN

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General asad, finally a rationalist among a sea of 'jahils'. U can see what's happening in Somalia is creating 'investments' into hotels and flashy malls, it's not intended to lift people out of poverty. It's an economy intended to support me and u and diaspora somalis in Somalia, not the locals. This creates millions of peasants with a few thousand diaspora elites, we can't compete with the world when our nation bulk are peasants, this will then create the 'ghetto economy' and bad things happen to your locals then. What increses is prostitution first for women to go to wealthy areas, crime increases from poverty areas like south african soweto areas against whites. Westerners come and enjoy themselves with the small elite diaspora while 'laffing' at the peasants who will be sold as maids to saudi arabia, what can increase is organ harvesting as people start cutting deals with families to sell their sons kidney.

Everything done in mogadishu is designed for rich people or diaspora yet we cant support the govt with much taxes ma garatay? he will be dependent on loans the govt since the economy is following the nairobi model
 

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General watch the world face 'change in fear' if you say stop creating a somalia to suit wealthy and diaspora we are only a few, invest into our locals so they can enjoy the same same living standards as us. They will run from u and say YOUR NOT INTENDED FOR THIS.

The reason for this is to ensure the economy is designed for investors, diaspora, etc only maybe 1000 people to enjoy themselves in a nation of peasants. This ensures your economy isnt self sufficient, u wont collect taxes to self fund your govt, hence niin aan dawladisa iska bixin karin, xor ma aha. All due to your silly diaspora wanting to create a somalia for a few thousand people, but a few thousand ppl cant support a nation, u will always be treated like aid basket.

That's why PL shud not join mogadishu and explain we have differrent history, this can work in colonial areas like nairobi, hargeisa but not independent kingdoms who know how to govern and want a china system here where its ONE COUNTRY BUT TWO SYSTEMS. COLONIAL FOR SOUTH FOLLOWING NAIROBI MODEL. PL FOLLOWING ITS OMANI MODEL
 
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Somalia has internal and external woes.

Though somalis have been always united facing an enemy but there was no united Somalia states historically.
The current Somalia which comprise of British and Italian Somaliland was created by the Western colonialists and when they joined the two to form a union still they didn't solve the rest of the other issue as more than a third of Somali lands were under occupation.

Somalis are clanists and the West has used tgis to bring the worst of of it.By pitting us against each other using proxies like Arabs,Ethiopians,Kenyans.

Then we have AS created by the West which was to appear to claim to be Muslim while act the very opposite of Islam so that it would lead the Somali masses to disbelief.
 

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Somalia has internal and external woes.

Though somalis have been always united facing an enemy but there was no united Somalia states historically.
The current Somalia which comprise of British and Italian Somaliland was created by the Western colonialists and when they joined the two to form a union still they didn't solve the rest of the other issue as more than a third of Somali lands were under occupation.

Somalis are clanists and the West has used tgis to bring the worst of of it.By pitting us against each other using proxies like Arabs,Ethiopians,Kenyans.

Then we have AS created by the West which was to appear to claim to be Muslim while act the very opposite of Islam so that it would lead the Somali masses to disbelief.

It comes down to pure 'fear' in the west. They prefer to see 100 ogadens rich and leave millions behind. The last thing they want is millions of ogaden empowered. They need to then ensure your dependent since when u collect taxes, the bulk of your ppl live on 1 dollar a day, u r not a threat then to the world. They will even fool u to create nice city all owned by diaspora and foreigners not your locals, they then ensure ur locals are given 1 dollar to ensure they never pay taxes and your clan remains weak. This can work in the south, its the colonial system but not for independent puntland who knows the omani system. So we need one somalia two systems like china and hong kong. Let koonfur be the peasant bulk economy south and hong kong for PL since we are that type of people before, we lived with omani and followed their policies for centuries being independent. We didnt live like the south so we need to stop culturally assasinating each other to become ONE, we can have two systems one nation and treaties for UNGOVERNED AREAS WHO PRIMITIVE TRIBES MAN AND MAKE THEM INTO RESERVES FOR TOURISM
 

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Written by

Saeed S. Ibrahim
Saeed S. Ibrahim is editor of Somaliland Chronicle.

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Dude the south is losing because your conflict driven and opposition, the white man wants to hear solution not more conflict ideas, by continuing opposing we can use this as evidence you have no solution and therefore the solution of PL has to be selected. Get your clans-men together AARLIBAX and say yaysan puntland naga fa'idaysan and lets stop allowing them to provide solutions while our people just sit and oppose as the western world will be forced to follow the solution model cause opposing just leads to civil war model lol don't u get it? sit ur clans down and say cayaartu ma aha 'wax iska diid' the western world is sick of hearing opposition and no solution, cuz it means their investment dies.
 
Dude the south is losing because your conflict driven and opposition, the white man wants to hear solution not more conflict ideas, by continuing opposing we can use this as evidence you have no solution and therefore the solution of PL has to be selected. Get your clans-men together AARLIBAX and say yaysan puntland naga fa'idaysan and lets stop allowing them to provide solutions while our people just sit and oppose as the western world will be forced to follow the solution model cause opposing just leads to civil war model lol don't u get it? sit ur clans down and say cayaartu ma aha 'wax iska diid' the western world is sick of hearing opposition and no solution, cuz it means their investment dies.

You are right Doc
I was only pointing that the article was written by a disgruntled Jegaan
 

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You are right Doc
I was only pointing that the article was written by a disgruntled Jegaan

Sxb in all honesty Somalia was designed to keep the majority in the south peasants and empower the north to move there and own everything, their attempting a similar model again where I am saying it's going to similar outcomes. Now their using diaspora to begin investment who are all Somalis to take advantage of the 'locals' and make money for themselves. Then watch how they empower puntland locals economically who then start shifting south and taking advantage of them also. It will lead to more cuqdad. The idea is to keep peasants down and make the economic driver diaspora, puntites, foreigners as the TOP ELITES. This is what the boqortoyo was told to do wallahi when going to the SOUTH back in the old days, the colonial wanted to pass it back to LANDHEERE CLANS while keeping the peasants poor and this meant we got DUPED, we got a nation that wasn't self sufficient to support itself and hence IMF dependent and dependent to the world.

The south was never intended to be OWNED BY LOCALS or else they feared this could lead to nation that is all empowered
 

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General Asad my solution to Somalis is lets not take advantage of each other we know the colonial model, we got experience, these foreigners are applying the same models. We are better 'separate' from each other wallahi or else they will see it's ripe for competition. The second they see one somalia, thats it CAYAARTU bay nagu bilabayan colonialka. marka respect the world, they dont think your useful together, stop going against the world always. We must ask ourlseves 'sidee aanu kala aman helna oo kala noolana somaliyay' si aysan cadowga naga fa'idaysan ama malintan hal meel wada joggo WALLAHI WE ARE FINISHED, WUU OG YAHAY CAYAARTI AYAA LA BILABAYA
 
Sxb in all honesty Somalia was designed to keep the majority in the south peasants and empower the north to move there and own everything, their attempting a similar model again where I am saying it's going to similar outcomes. Now their using diaspora to begin investment who are all Somalis to take advantage of the 'locals' and make money for themselves. Then watch how they empower puntland locals economically who then start shifting south and taking advantage of them also. It will lead to more cuqdad. The idea is to keep peasants down and make the economic driver diaspora, puntites, foreigners as the TOP ELITES. This is what the boqortoyo was told to do wallahi when going to the SOUTH back in the old days, the colonial wanted to pass it back to LANDHEERE CLANS while keeping the peasants poor and this meant we got DUPED, we got a nation that wasn't self sufficient to support itself and hence IMF dependent and dependent to the world.

The south was never intended to be OWNED BY LOCALS or else they feared this could lead to nation that is all empowered

It doesn't matter if a northerner makes in the south or vice versa. Each one of us has predetermined Risq. You should definitly head south. We will welcome you
 

General Asad

And What Is Not There Is Always More Than There.
General Asad my solution to Somalis is lets not take advantage of each other we know the colonial model, we got experience, these foreigners are applying the same models. We are better 'separate' from each other wallahi or else they will see it's ripe for competition. The second they see one somalia, thats it CAYAARTU bay nagu bilabayan colonialka. marka respect the world, they dont think your useful together, stop going against the world always. We must ask ourlseves 'sidee aanu kala aman helna oo kala noolana somaliyay' si aysan cadowga naga fa'idaysan ama malintan hal meel wada joggo WALLAHI WE ARE FINISHED, WUU OG YAHAY CAYAARTI AYAA LA BILABAYA

We don't need to ruin our environment and look for oil (we'll end up like the arabs in 100+200 years, oilless and environment destroyed).

Renewable energy would bring us billions and rejuvenate our economy. Cheap, simple and using god given land to our advantage. No more droughts, shortage of food, exploration of the sea etc. This is what we need to allocate our attention and resources too. Not oil.
 

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We don't need to ruin our environment and look for oil (we'll end up like the arabs in 100+200 years, oilless and environment destroyed).

Renewable energy would bring us billions and rejuvenate our economy. Cheap, simple and using god given land to our advantage. No more droughts, shortage of food, exploration of the sea etc. This is what we need to allocate our attention and resources too. Not oil.

General Asad, the first thing I learned that Somalis do wrong and hasn't worked for 30 years, they waste their time arguing with different tribes? u will get the same result of stalemate, the only time I talk to other tribes is to prove they don't want solution models and I want PL to gather those statistic to demonstrate evidence to the world, u let them collapse sister he will listen to someone in the end trust me which is his funder. The solution model that I propose is 'focus on your tribe' and forget him, he will never listen to you. Then use this as evidence to the world against 'him' and when the whole world turns on him, he will need to get in-line ASAP. That is my model, I am not tribal at all siste r, wa been, I just know talking to another Somali is pointless. Isku qabil manahin, civil war ba naga dhex dhacay, isku tarikh manahin, isku development process and culture ma marin, we just like to 'deny' our differences in Somalia, it hurts them to see a 'different level somali' but the world will tell them once u show the evidence and that can only come by focusing on first, YOURSELF AND PPL in a solution focused environment. This hurts me when I see PL joining the conflict model in the south, it can 'tarnish' our state maturity as we will be seen as no 'different' to the peasants down the south and our policies 'rejected' as conflict driven.
 

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General Asad when your economy relies on foreign investment(diaspora, foreigners) the money they made never came from your country, their injecting it into your capital so they create 'hotels' kkkk so they can 'service' only 'top elites and business ppl' of all tribes and foreigners. Just look at how they ensure they target their investment in hamar to develop income from not the 'peasant' he isn't empowered at all, he isn't intended to be, the worst outcome weeye taas as this can lead to self sufficient mogadishu. Cayaarta ku socodo hamar ha uu sheegin, let them follow their colonial model, but only ask that PL doesn't have to follow the same colonial policy and our region is respected to decide it's own economical model. This isn't conflict driven idea, this is an idea I respect you are hamar and have your agenda, but let it stay for mogadishu folks only, let them be their old plantation workers while 1000 diaspora, foreigners use them as 'slave labor' like they did in the past. Now they will be used as construction workers paid pennies, waiters, prostitutes, why? they are not the one who gets the investment, waana arin fican, hawiye oo dhisan khayr kama soo baxo sister, iyago 10 taajir leh ku roon taking advantage of their own hawiye locals. Hargeisa model is identical, waa good. The world has decided this is the MODEL for them
 

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@General Asad I will be real with u, this economy in hamar is money circulating between 'diaspora, foreigners' it's not his money localka, but his 'adoon' mind wuxu mooda inu lee yahay because 'hamar' he is majority, the adoon weeye haka badelin fekerkisa, u don't disturb their ancient mentality. Puntites will join those 'elites in hamar when we pick up our locals, mar walbo cayaartu isagay ku socota dhinaca economics, siyasad, diin. I feel so sorry for them mana haystan dad uu joggo oo wax uu joggo except 'conflict driven model' bay ku ciyaaran sida 'opposition of other qabilo' ama 'shabab gal' ama 'ikhwanka gal' lakin cayaartu meel kasto uu galo way ku soconaysa to ensure the economy only circulates thru 'diaspora investors and foreigners'. I am saying let PL see this as good opportunity to create an economic model in PL where our locals can then go to hamar and join 'ciyaarta' on hawiye. They the saddest people i met wallahi but the only way to defeat him is not to entertain his conflict model as his 'ideas' will be dismissed worldwide. Haba la hahdlin 'waa loo tashda' dee.

we must ensure puntite investors know this rule about hamar, noon invest into hawiye locals, only invest in areas thaat generate activity between diaspora, puntites, foreigner. malintu lacag haysto maskinkasi oo bililiqo ku nool he will do same bililiqo on u again because u using the same model.

Keep investing into our locals, the IDP come to PL and own two properties, make the locals do the same thru banking sister for puntites so they march to hamar and be ELITE CLASS, while hawiye xafadaha ay bilqaysteen ku nool yihin, we create new diaspora suburbs NO HAWIYE ALLOWED EXCEPT HADU LACAG HAYSTO, ONLY A FEW DO, NO THREAT WEEYE
 

Samaalic Era

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General asad, finally a rationalist among a sea of 'jahils'. U can see what's happening in Somalia is creating 'investments' into hotels and flashy malls, it's not intended to lift people out of poverty. It's an economy intended to support me and u and diaspora somalis in Somalia, not the locals. This creates millions of peasants with a few thousand diaspora elites, we can't compete with the world when our nation bulk are peasants, this will then create the 'ghetto economy' and bad things happen to your locals then. What increses is prostitution first for women to go to wealthy areas, crime increases from poverty areas like south african soweto areas against whites. Westerners come and enjoy themselves with the small elite diaspora while 'laffing' at the peasants who will be sold as maids to saudi arabia, what can increase is organ harvesting as people start cutting deals with families to sell their sons kidney.

Everything done in mogadishu is designed for rich people or diaspora yet we cant support the govt with much taxes ma garatay? he will be dependent on loans the govt since the economy is following the nairobi model
I actually agree with what you said
 

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@General Asad U know why I focus on HG the most, he is responsible for my somali shame, he left this legacy, I hate them niggas with a passion. I admire aideed but despise HG, 30 year impact on my life u son of is all you fault, AND I B ELIEVE IN REVENGE. I am naturalist)cawaan idealogy dee if the animals do I DO IT
 

General Asad

And What Is Not There Is Always More Than There.
@General Asad I will be real with u, this economy in hamar is money circulating between 'diaspora, foreigners' it's not his money localka, but his 'adoon' mind wuxu mooda inu lee yahay because 'hamar' he is majority, the adoon weeye haka badelin fekerkisa, u don't disturb their ancient mentality. Puntites will join those 'elites in hamar when we pick up our locals, mar walbo cayaartu isagay ku socota dhinaca economics, siyasad, diin. I feel so sorry for them mana haystan dad uu joggo oo wax uu joggo except 'conflict driven model' bay ku ciyaaran sida 'opposition of other qabilo' ama 'shabab gal' ama 'ikhwanka gal' lakin cayaartu meel kasto uu galo way ku soconaysa to ensure the economy only circulates thru 'diaspora investors and foreigners'. I am saying let PL see this as good opportunity to create an economic model in PL where our locals can then go to hamar and join 'ciyaarta' on hawiye. They the saddest people i met wallahi but the only way to defeat him is not to entertain his conflict model as his 'ideas' will be dismissed worldwide. Haba la hahdlin 'waa loo tashda' dee.

we must ensure puntite investors know this rule about hamar, noon invest into hawiye locals, only invest in areas thaat generate activity between diaspora, puntites, foreigner. malintu lacag haysto maskinkasi oo bililiqo ku nool he will do same bililiqo on u again because u using the same model.

Keep investing into our locals, the IDP come to PL and own two properties, make the locals do the same thru banking sister for puntites so they march to hamar and be ELITE CLASS, while hawiye xafadaha ay bilqaysteen ku nool yihin, we create new diaspora suburbs NO HAWIYE ALLOWED EXCEPT HADU LACAG HAYSTO, ONLY A FEW DO, NO THREAT WEEYE
Western countries are on the brink of collapse, basically rome 2.0 and somalis will he forced to either a. Follow the white man and live in his country till the end of time because 'somalis are too violent and dysfunctional or b. Face the music and realize they are n****** and they need to go back (donald trumps voice).

We puntites seperate from the rest of a and we make our billions from oil and renewable energy, minerals etc and teach the younger generation about our ancient culture and customs, our 'xeer'. Tuusno inaan waxaano qabsan karno oo inaan oo bahnayn caawimaad. Anaga isku filnaan waanu isku filnaan doonaa

Independent and critical thinking will be stressed in classrooms also because they are too many sheeps and not enough leaders. Xoolo baay dadkii noqdayn. Caano niido maa saa uu gashay? Kkkkk
 

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