"No more Somalia, I am Somaliland" lol

[Gibiin-Udug]

@Hugo and @Reign don't disrespect Cumar mohamuds! They're the beauty in Puntland!

 

[horumar]

It's sad walahi, they've been brainwashed horribly, the only solution is thru a Vietnam style reeducation campsView attachment 16134 :siilaanyolaugh:

This is the second time you've posted something to do with these vietnamese camps, on a serious note, there is no need for "re-education", There is a need for general education. Education on the suffering and pain reer somaliland had to go through to get their independence, and the legacy after.

I don't know what's funny about tens of thousands of people dying.

Or whats funny about this:

A few other somaliland haters on this forum are motivated especially by qabiil, the same hatred that fuelled this.

I'm sure you or others like you won't bother to read the source, or claim it's fake, then it's completely up to you.

At the end of the day, you saying Somaliland doesn't exist, is not going to make any difference? By saying Somaliland doesn't exist, you're acknowledging the fact that it is there, without saying some stupid stuff like a 'one clan enclave' or 'idoorland'

 

[xisaabiye]

^ They stole peoples hidden valuables and replaced them with mines

 

[Prince Abubu]

^ They stool people hidden valuables and replaced them with mines

Some sick bastards. They're paying everyday with alshababs bombings and attacks though.

 

[XamarCade]

This is the second time you've posted something to do with these vietnamese camps, on a serious note, there is no need for "re-education", There is a need for general education. Education on the suffering and pain reer somaliland had to go through to get their independence, and the legacy after.

I don't know what's funny about tens of thousands of people dying.

Or whats funny about this:

A few other somaliland haters on this forum are motivated especially by qabiil, the same hatred that fuelled this.

I'm sure you or others like you won't bother to read the source, or claim it's fake, then it's completely up to you.

At the end of the day, you saying Somaliland doesn't exist, is not going to make any difference? By saying Somaliland doesn't exist, you're acknowledging the fact that it is there, without saying some stupid stuff like a 'one clan enclave' or 'idoorland'

It ain't reer unukaa leh who placed those mines sxb,

 

[KULTA]

Our ictiraaf officers came just in time before these dirty unionists got the chance to corrupt our youth :siilaanyosmile:

Thanks waryaa i laughed too hard my calool hurts

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Some sick bastards. They're paying everyday with alshababs bombings and attacks though.

Siad Barre butchered over 10,000 innocents in Beledweyne, and you are saying that they are paying for what they've done to you through Al Shabab bombings? Fucking morons, the only difference between you and everybody else is that you revolted because he banned khaat, whilst Hawiye revolted because of the massacres they faced.

 

[XamarCade]

Siad Barre butchered over 10,000 innocents in Beledweyne, and you are saying that they are paying for what they've done to you? f*ck off you c*nt.

Istaqfurallah bro, I had to re-read it again. Subxanallah they're sick ppl walahi

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Istaqfurallah bro, I had to re-read it again. Subxanallah they're sick ppl walahi

Most of them support Al Shabab and see Godane as a mujaahid for butchering innocent Hawiyes.

 

[XamarCade]

Some sick bastards. They're paying everyday with alshababs bombings and attacks though.

Bro if ur really gonna celebrate AS killings of innocent ppl I can go to ur level and post some sick inhumane shit to really make u cry while laughing at ur suffering but then again I know my limits.

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Most of them support Al Shabab and see Godane as a mujaahid for butchering innocent Hawiyes.

Godane was a qabillist he never allowed bombings in SL there are detailed testimonies from Al amriki and other high profile al shabab leaders before they where killed

 

[xisaabiye]

Your doofaar clans have since then become slaves. From beggarbahaante being Isaaq slaves to marisxaar being abducted by Hutu
One day i was shukaansi with this girl who got my number from a friend, and she knew I was reer waqooyi by my accent so I said I'm dhulo, you ever heard of them, she said "you mean isaaqs es" Wallahi waanba suuxi gaadhay

 

[horumar]

Most of them support Al Shabab and see Godane as a mujaahid for butchering innocent Hawiyes.

Siad Barre butchered over 10,000 innocents in Beledweyne, and you are saying that they are paying for what they've done to you through Al Shabab bombings? Fucking morons, the only difference between you and everybody else is that you revolted because he banned khaat, whilst Hawiye revolted because of the massacres they faced.

That same argument has been used many times: "Oh but afweyne killed all clans so therefore it wasn't just @ isaaq'

I'm not sure how well you know the history of marginalisation against isaaq, lakiin then again i'm not suprised if you don't, you're so blinded by your hatred, it's shocking.

Yes, many people died, from all clans, AUN.

But to use that as an excuse to undermine deaths or try to brush it off like it wasn't a big deal, is just sick.

In January 1986, Barre's son-in-law and viceroy in the north General Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan, who was Barre's bodyguard before he married his daughter[75] reportedly told Isaaq nomads at a waterhole "if you Isaaqs resist, we will destroy your towns, and you will inherit only ashes."[76]

Other aims of the policy included arming other clans in the region[87] and encouraging them to fight the dominant Isaaq:

"Since it has become evident that the Isaaq were, by act and intent, with the SNM; and since we could not see them giving up the line they have pursued so deceptively for some time; and in order to forestall them; we arranged for the other inhabitants of the North continuous meetings and a mobilization campaign designed to rouse them to action and to raise their level of awareness. This was intended to strengthen their unity and to surround Somali unity with a defensive wall. Among those inhabitants are: the Awdal people, the various sections of Western Somalis [including Ogaden refugees], the Las Qorey people, and the Daami people, etc. There is no doubt that the unity of these people will restore the balance of the scales which are now tipped in favour of the Isaaq. If they attack their tasks energetically, their unity will also undoubtedly humble those who arrogantly maintain that they own the North when the reality is otherwise."[88]

Instead of folding, the desperate SNM launched a full-scale attack on Barre's forces in northern Somalia in May, hoping to liberate enough territory to create a permanent foothold inside Somalia. It succeeded in pushing into the city of Burao and temporarily capturing most of the principal city of Hargeisa. Government forces responded with "appalling savagery", targeting the entire Isaaq civilian population with arrests, rape, mass executions, and insdiscriminant shooting and bombing, Hundred of thousands of Isaaq refugees fled for their lives across the Ethiopian border; government warplanes strafed them as they fled. As many as fifty thousand Somalis died and the city of Hargeisa was virtually levelled in what outside analysts depicted as a "genocidal" campaign by Bthe Barre regime against the Isaaq.

— Bruce W. Jentleson, Opportunities Missed, Opportunities Seized: Preventive Diplomacy in the Post-Cold War World

General Mohammed Said 'Morgan', one of Siad Barre's sons-in-law, [was given] the opportunity to put into operation further elements of a pacification plan he had drawn up earlier. Government forces reacted with appalling savagery to the SNM seizure of Burao and near capture of Hargeisa. The response culminated in the bombing and artillery bombardment of Hargeisa to a point of virtual destruction. Civilian refugees fleeing towards the border were bombed and gunned indiscriminately. It was seen, probably rightly, as an attack on the whole Isaaq people [...] (Gilkes 1993, p. 7).

— Sidney R. Waldron, Naima Ali Hasci, Somali Refugees in the Horn of Africa: State of the Art Literature Review

Here are some more facts, which you and funnily enough, Farmaajo, who labeled the deaths as 'crossfire' between SNM and the regime, do not understand.

This was a serious matter, a genocide which came to fruition after a century of division, social, political and economic, marginalisation.

Then you guys opt for somaliweyn? 1 somalia, 1 people 1 language, what sorta people do this to themselves? Yes, we may share the same language, but we are much different, some of us condemn killing and torture, others praise and beg for more.

This is my last post on this topic before this thread gets hijacked again, i'm assuming i don't need to reply again, even though there is more horrifying evidence to explain what happened.

 

[XamarCade]

That same argument has been used many times: "Oh but afweyne killed all clans so therefore it wasn't just @ isaaq'

I'm not sure how well you know the history of marginalisation against isaaq, lakiin then again i'm not suprised if you don't, you're so blinded by your hatred, it's shocking.

Yes, many people died, from all clans, AUN.

But to use that as an excuse to undermine deaths or try to brush it off like it wasn't a big deal, is just sick.

Here are some more facts, which you and funnily enough, Farmaajo, who labeled the deaths as 'crossfire' between SNM and the regime, do not understand.

This was a serious matter, a genocide which came to fruition after a century of division, social, political and economic, marginalisation.

Then you guys opt for somaliweyn? 1 somalia, 1 people 1 language, what sorta people do this to themselves? Yes, we may share the same language, but we are much different, some of us condemn killing and torture, others praise and beg for more.

This is my last post on this topic before this thread gets hijacked again, i'm assuming i don't need to reply again, even though there is more horrifying evidence to explain what happened.

Why do u ppl keep blaming what Siyaad Barre did to issaqs on Hawiye? We were on ur side u dummys

 

[xisaabiye]

That same argument has been used many times: "Oh but afweyne killed all clans so therefore it wasn't just @ isaaq'

I'm not sure how well you know the history of marginalisation against isaaq, lakiin then again i'm not suprised if you don't, you're so blinded by your hatred, it's shocking.

Yes, many people died, from all clans, AUN.

But to use that as an excuse to undermine deaths or try to brush it off like it wasn't a big deal, is just sick.

Here are some more facts, which you and funnily enough, Farmaajo, who labeled the deaths as 'crossfire' between SNM and the regime, do not understand.

This was a serious matter, a genocide which came to fruition after a century of division, social, political and economic, marginalisation.

Then you guys opt for somaliweyn? 1 somalia, 1 people 1 language, what sorta people do this to themselves? Yes, we may share the same language, but we are much different, some of us condemn killing and torture, others praise and beg for more.

This is my last post on this topic before this thread gets hijacked again, i'm assuming i don't need to reply again, even though there is more horrifying evidence to explain what happened.

Sxb you're trying to reason with a morally bankrupt people. These people can't even unite with themselves as dhulos, or with their warsangeli or mj kin. No clan is like dhulbahaante when it comes to qabyaalada and badawnimo.

 

[horumar]

Why do u ppl keep blaming what Siyaad Barre did to issaqs on Hawiye? We were on ur side u dummys

I don't think i mentioned Hawiye, it was towards mr dhulbahaante

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

Why do u ppl keep blaming what Siyaad Barre did to issaqs on Hawiye? We were on ur side u dummys

They think they are so special that the whole Somali Republic was out to get them. They even harass the Raxanweyn wallahi. It must be the khaat.

 

[XamarCade]

They think they are so special that the whole Somali Republic was out to get them. They even harass the Raxanweyn wallahi. It must be the khaat.

Walahi I don't get it with them, once u overthrow a dictator, the mission is acommplished, there's no need to turn against anyone that's not ur qabiil.

 

[horumar]

Walahi I don't get it with them, once u overthrow a dictator, the mission is acommplished, there's no need to turn against anyone that's not ur qabiil. View attachment 16150

Mission acommplished? The ideology is still there!

Farmaajo's thesis:

The SNM's guerrilla army briefly seized two major cities in Northern Somalia - Hargeisa and Buro - in 1988. Barre and his superior American weapons reacted by emphatically crushing the SNM movement. He essentially leveled the rebel cities.24 Many civilians died in the crossfire; thousands more fled their homes for the countryside, where water and shelter were short.

 

[XamarCade]

Mission acommplished? The ideology is still there!

Farmaajo's thesis:

Oh now Farmaajo is out to getcha, get over urselves sxb.