GENETICS New result in Ethiopia changes the origins of Somalis how have haplogroup T

[moosaid]

New result on the branchT-BY181195 Which goes back to 3400BCE
For a Ethiopian This means that the Saudi results are just a reverse migration
One Saudi has 28% Ethiopian origins
The other one has the name Al-Zayla'i Which means that his origins are from Zeila

 

[moosaid]

@The alchemist what do you think

 

[Midas]

Does it say what part of Ethiopia the guy from ?

Honestly though it woukd explain how overeprresented that haplogroup is in dir and issaq. I honestly couldn't fathom how so many people could cross over the red sea to the point where it became the dominant haplogroup for so many somalis.

 

[moosaid]

Does it say what part of Ethiopia the guy from ?

Honestly though it woukd explain how overeprresented that haplogroup is in dir and issaq. I honestly couldn't fathom how so many people could cross over the red sea to the point where it became the dominant haplogroup for so many somalis.

I don't have an account. If anyone has an account and has done the test, they can message him. Let someone message him.
Yes, it is unreasonable

, but I think when we see more results from the Afar, Eritrea, and Beja, we will know that the origins of the Dir go back to the shepherds who came from there.

 

[Garaad Awal]

The TMRCA with the Ethiopian is interesting (3600 ybp) around the same time period as when Somali dominated E-Y17859 formed in the Red Sea.

 

[Garaad Awal]

It’s a Somali HY who hasn’t deep tested I think. He is listed on the Somali FTDNA project

 

[moosaid]

It’s a Somali HY who hasn’t deep tested I think. He is listed on the Somali FTDNA project

Are you sure
It appears that he is in another branch with Ethiopian flag.

 

[Midas]

It’s a Somali HY who hasn’t deep tested I think. He is listed on the Somali FTDNA project

Fascinating. Then I guess this is even more proof that these guys who have this haplogroup in the arabian penisula are just descended from somalis.

Honestly I wonder if there's ever been a large pouplation replacement from outside groups. If even the habesha who received a major wave of migration in 1000 b.c to the point it made them semitic speaking only had 10-15% added ancestry.

 

[moosaid]

It’s a Somali HY who hasn’t deep tested I think. He is listed on the Somali FTDNA project

It's Unnamed line it's new

 

[Garaad Awal]

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It's Unnamed line it's new

It’s not he just hasn’t deep tested (it’s listed as Family Finder) and I guess he changed his country of origin on FTDNA to reflect he is from Hawd.

 

[NidarNidar]

Does it say what part of Ethiopia the guy from ?

Honestly though it woukd explain how overeprresented that haplogroup is in dir and issaq. I honestly couldn't fathom how so many people could cross over the red sea to the point where it became the dominant haplogroup for so many somalis.

All findings point towards Red Sea crossing from Hejaz, it was single man, but a family unit/tribe, etc..

 

[Garaad Awal]

All findings point towards Red Sea crossing from Hejaz, it was single man, but a family unit/tribe, etc..

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To be fair it shows the same thing for Somali E-V32. Alxamdulilah for Somali E-V32 many of the Eastern Desert Egyptian Bedouin guys and Palestinians have been deep testing (perhaps with Khaleeji funding) so we are seeing a better picture of our haplogroup. Your lineage though besides those two Saudis (still in the Iron Age) has no other samples untill you reach your Neolithic lineage.Hopefully some more testing of others whether Arabs or Red Sea Africans will reveal more.

 

[Midas]

All findings point towards Red Sea crossing from Hejaz, it was single man, but a family unit/tribe, etc..

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Yh thats what makes me so skeptical. It seems strange that a small group of maybe a few hundred individuals from a foreign land could somehow become the dominant haplogroup for like 5% of somalis and also be thr group thats seen as the oldest qabil.

 

[Midas]

To be fair it shows the same thing for Somali E-V32. Alxamdulilah for Somali E-V32 many of the Eastern Desert Egyptian Bedouin guys and Palestinians have been deep testing (perhaps with Khaleeji funding) so we are seeing a better picture of our haplogroup. Your lineage though besides those two Saudis (still in the Iron Age) has no other samples untill you reach your Neolithic lineage.Hopefully some more testing of others whether Arabs or Red Sea Africans will reveal more.

The big unexplainable thing about all these hypothetical migrations into somalia. Is that none of them actually stand up to scrutiny.
The hypothetical migrants either entered somalia by land or by sea. The problem with the land route is that you would have to pass through a desert and the probelm with the sea route is that we're talking about a time period when people dont seem to have been able to navigate in large numbers throughout a sea route.

 

[Midas]

Also presumably these migrations woukd have happened in the neolthic and in that case the probelm would be that there seems to already have been pastroalists living here in rhe neolithic so how did these farmers outcompete the pastoralists to the point they made up 40% our genome.