Nationalism is superior to any religion

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TheMadMullah

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Mad

I know you are so perfect that "God" created other men in your image. That's not the point. The point of contention here is the word "superior". To claim that nationalism is superior to Islam is akin to that people have invented a better system than what "Allah invented". Did you get it Mr Perfect?
Superior in this case meaning when they meet head to head politically. Islam from the spirituality point of view is quite superior to anything hence why i Islam serves spiritual purpose alone to me. Get it warya
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Superior in this case meaning when they meet head to head politically. Islam from the spirituality point of view is quite superior to anything hence why i Islam serves spiritual purpose alone to me. Get it warya
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Mad

I know what you mean that Islam is a 7th Century political organisation that has little or no relevance to the contemporary way of living of a successful and advanced people. Make no mistake, I agree with you on that point. But any practicing Muslim will tell you that Islam as a whole is much more than spiritual and it transcends into the realms of economics, social and politics. Since you disagree with them and as a secularist with a "vast knowledge" on Islam, please explain to them why you rated nationalism higher than Islam and also relegated Islam only to the realm of spirituality? Give us sources from Islam.
 
Let me correct you.. Qabil has been a failure for Somalia. We could have been a prosperous country but no we fucked ourselves up. You can't blame Islam for our failures man.
the first thing I was asked when I made my first thread is where are you from ... then what is your Qabil?:heh: like if the diaspora thinks like this whom had all the advantages the west offers what hopes do those at home have :jcoleno:
 
Throughout history it's proven that whenever and wherever nationalism has risen it has crushed religion.

The raise of nationalism through out different parts of the world has crushed faiths. When Kemal ataturk and Turkish nationalism was revived the ottoman fell like piece of paper.

The same pattern can be seen thoughout the world, we can therefore affirm that nationalism is superior to religion whether it is Islam or Christianity.
You're not a nationalist though
 
the first thing I was asked when I made my first thread is where are you from ... then what is your Qabil?:heh: like if the diaspora thinks like this whom had all the advantages the west offers what hopes do those at home have :jcoleno:
Alhamdulilah most don't, at least where I grew up, only the creeps and fobs.
 

Hybrid

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nationalism is no good. it leads to fascism and civil war. religion is also no good either especially Islam which is based on a 7th century man made ideology and has not been reformed. we need to compete with asian and western countries and start living in the 21th century.
 

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somalis can be nationalistic and islamic since we our bordered by non muslim nations so these two ideologies can go hand in hand
 
somalis can be nationalistic and islamic since we our bordered by non muslim nations so these two ideologies can go hand in hand
felloff

How about if the majority of Somalis in killinka, nfd don't want to join Somalia and consider themselves as Ethiopians and Kenyans, will they be declared murtadiin and waged jihad on them? How about if Somaliland continues on it's path of a seperate sovereign nation-state?

There have been wars between Muslim nations and nationalism based on the current nation-state model has been the outcome of Europe's emanticipation from absolute monarchy. It contradicts with the views, teachings and aspirations of Mohamed's one Ummah . Islam condemns nationalism and promotes the notion of one ummah.

I think you haven't received this memo mate.

Africa including Somalis have practiced a pseudo nationalism because their foreign policies was dictated to them. The victors of WW2, the Russians and the Americans demanded from the major European powers to free the colonised nations, so they could divide it up as the spoils of wars and each newly freed nation has no other choice, but to join either camp of these two powers. It was a neo-colonialism that didn't require a white governor and his white army to be physically stationed in the colonised country. Nevertheless, it was colonialism via a remote control and when one attempted to go (rogue) alone and start a war and couldn't be stopped, they stopped him violently. That was what happened to the late president, Mohamed Said Barre. Africans weren't allowed to enjoy nationalism beyond sporting venues and military parades on national days.
 
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