My Aunt, 1969 Mogadishu...
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Grigori Rasputin
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Wariyaha SomaliSpot
It was the age of Jahaliya
I've wondered at your opinion on this, sis. Do you feel Somali women who were dressed like this and often leaving their hair exposed were inexcusably sinning and Somali women should not return to their style:
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No,
They were nomadic women who did not have access to a lot of the knowledge we have now. How can I judge my ancestors when they were illiterate and depended on the local Sheikh and Imam to teach them?
My own ayeeyo dressed like that in her youth, she had no idea that proper hijab is mandatory. She never went school, dropped out of dugsi at a young age as women in those days had to stay and help their hooyos, hence apart from what they were told and the norms and values of society, they had no way to research or find out about their Islamic obligations or even rights. However, once my grandmother had access to learning, she started wearing proper hijab.
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Don't go starting another hijab war sxb I see you...I've wondered at your opinion on this, sis. Do you feel Somali women who were dressed like this and often leaving their hair exposed were inexcusably sinning and Somali women should not return to their style:
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Sometimes I wish the Sultanates, Imamates and such remained just so we could have our version of this grand video.
To be eventually deposed and brutally slaughtered in favor of the will of the people, of course. I would be among the first to axe murder them, I promise.
Don't go starting another hijab war sxb I see you...
Lol, how is it a war? @Shimbiris and I always have respectful and civilized discussions.
Hmm, I wonder what was going on with the more educated reer magaal women, though. They clearly knew the Islamic customs and would still go bare shouldered and not cover their hair or settle for a mere bandana.
Not as much as we are now. We're in age in which knowledge is around every corner, we're exposed to different views and ideologies and we can exercise critical thinking. In those days, people were very much governed by social norms and what they're told, rather than actual research. My other ayeeyo was reer magal. In her days, she'd loosely drape a gabasar ect, but even then she was illiterate and didn't have half of the knowledge she has now.
Grigori Rasputin
Former Somali Minister of Mismanagement & Misinfo.
Staff Member
Wariyaha SomaliSpot
Up to the 1980s, in the interior miyi, women would have their breast out in the open.
ladies would breastfeed everywhere. Even in a packed bus.
True. I mean even reer magaal and reer miyi who would go to old traditional dugsis or get taught personally by a Wadaad like in these cases- :
Yeah, I honestly even question how "illiterate" Somali nomads historically were because in both the north and the south going back to the 1800s you read about kids being taught the Qur'an by wandering Wadaads and using these traditional wooden boards to read it and write it:
This is from the 1800s in Koonfur:
-didn't truly even know what they were reading. An actual Arab back then would struggle to fully grasp the Classical Arabic in the Qur'an so good luck to a Somali. They were very dependent on what their Sheikhs told them and there were a lot of more "lax" Sheikhs across Somaliweyn, I think. People who mixed a lot of pre-Islamic customs with Islam given that their very occupation and tradition seems pre-Islamic:
And they were more inclined to be Sufi so they probably didn't focus as much on passing on proper conduct on things like attire.
I was shown many pictures such as this by my secular uncle showing many of my family members. Apparently some of them ripped up their own photos to hide their secular past. I don't take them seriously anymore. The first and only time I saw my hooyo and aunt's beautiful hair was in a picture from the 70s or 80s. They're always wearing some hijab or that Somali head wrap in the house.
Somali culture has been destroyed.
So the men can have huge afros or long hair back then but they force their young sons to cut theirs to level 1 today. They're all hypocrites. Get the heck out of here.
Somali culture has been destroyed.
So the men can have huge afros or long hair back then but they force their young sons to cut theirs to level 1 today. They're all hypocrites. Get the heck out of here.
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Death Awaits You
Wahabism didn't reach somalia pre civil war but it was bound to happen whenever we went through war or not. Somalia is extremely close to the gulf. Many Somali business men who migrated to Saudi Arabia began to import Islamic culture back to somalia. Reer Somaliland were the first to be assimilated and began wearing burqas prior to the civil war. It would've been a different phenomenal if somalia was far way from the gulf.
Wahabism didn't penetrate well enough in those Muslim countries far away from the gulf such as Algeria, Tunisia Morocco, Niger-congo Muslims and Asian Muslims.
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That's still common today. Woman are Islamically allowed to feed their child in public
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I know & heard stories about the wildlife from my parents or elders.
What I mean is the notion is spread that civil war is always brought up & not the environmental change due to heavy droughts.
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That’s my auntie too! Hey inabti
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It’s isn’t necessarily that modern women want to follow it, we have no other choice and if we don’t wear it we are called names or get crucified for it (especially for those who live in Somalia).
We as women do not have any rights ever since the civil war erupted, Somalis changed in a blink of an eye and actually force men and women to act a certain way and do things a certain way
Wallahi, they kinda qarxiised their aunt. What if we know that one eedo from Xamar who somehow knows everyone who ever lived there and she knows the OP's aunt and through her we get a list of her relations and thus a narrowing of the OP's identity.
Your mom wears a xijab in front of you and never uncovers her hair? Why?! She's your mom. You're mahram. That's absurd. And I would not call pre-civil war Somalis "secular". As in irreligious. Very, very few really were. Most were still firm believers in Islam unlike you, walaal. They just didn't practice the dhaqan very much.
