Muse bixi confirms no debt relief and loans for Somalia unless they have an agreement with Somaliland

[Mozart]

No. once Somalia presents evidence that the SL "project" is a single clan dominating the political machine in that region and holding the people hostage with propaganda and militancy the house of cards will begin to fall. The IC knows the full story of what happened to Somalia during that period (1979-1991) and won't fall for emotional rambling of Edna Adan the racist c*nt. Furthermore once the case against SNM is presented to the ICC Muse Bihi could face war crime charges in the Hague. This chapter of the Somali saga is coming to an end.

He’ll never face war crime charges - no Somali will ever face them for what previously happened. America had Tukeh in their back yard and let him go.

 

[The Somali Caesar]

stop the rambling you emotional tranny if Somaliland is clan project then what is Somalia? It’s the same shit you goof. Wallahi everything you typed is completely delusional if you are crying about Muuse tuug you should cry because he just took your debt relief

That’s brutal

 

[Awbarkhadle]

No. once Somalia presents evidence that the SL "project" is a single clan dominating the political machine in that region and holding the people hostage with propaganda and militancy the house of cards will begin to fall. The IC knows the full story of what happened to Somalia during that period (1979-1991) and won't fall for emotional rambling of Edna Adan the racist c*nt. Furthermore once the case against SNM is presented to the ICC Muse Bihi could face war crime charges in the Hague. This chapter of the Somali saga is coming to an end.

oNcE wE PReSeNtt oUR caSe

 

[Lordilord]

Does not mean SL has leverage. It means the pressure is coming from the Americans. It also means SL needs to emerge from its delusion and accept that this limbo shall not last forever.

Stop lying to yourself.. Big blow to Somalia.. You talk about this limbo, we've been in a limbo since 1991

This could potentially put the debt relief planned for Somalia on halt

 

[babooshke]

I WANT REPERATIONS.

everyone in Somaliland should be given a monthly cheque straight from the FGS. As well as their own land in Mogadishu.

That’s the only way we will join back

 

[The Somali Caesar]

oNcE wE PReSeNtt oUR caSe

The irony is unreal they talk about presenting their case like we don’t have our own case

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

Stop lying to yourself.. Big blow to Somalia.. You talk about this limbo, we've been in a limbo since 1991

This could potentially put the debt relief planned for Somalia on halt

Do you really think that sl has any leverage over the ic?

The ic is the only thing keeping somalia on a peaceful stance. It could've easily gone another way.

The thing is we aint really in control, aint no nation is in reality in control. If the system wants somalia United it will happen.

Plus the young generation and the young diaspora want a future for sl that involves heavy development. Staying in limbo is not an option for either side.

 

[Lordilord]

Do you really think that sl has any leverage over the ic?

Never said that.. It's the opposite for both Somalia and Somaliland..

The ic is the only thing keeping somalia on a peaceful stance. It could've easily gone another way.

Somalia has trouble with all federal states and Al shuban.. An expensive war is really out of the question lol, IC or not.. If Somalia could stop Somaliland we would have already seen it.

Plus the young generation and the young diaspora want a future for sl that involves heavy development. Staying in limbo is not an option for either side.

Majority of the current Somaliland population was born after 1991, all they've known is Somaliland.. The reality is hard, you cannot undo 30 years easy.... Staying in limbo is more favorable for us, if you say anything otherwise you're lying. Somaliland in limbo favors Somaliland not Somalia as they want SL to become a federal state.

 

[Lordilord]

People think the limbo we are in is a scary dark place, it's not for SL for Somalia it is

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

Never said that.. It's the opposite for both Somalia and Somaliland..


Somalia has trouble with all federal states and Al shuban.. An expensive war is really out of the question lol, IC or not.. If Somalia could stop Somaliland we would have already seen it.



Majority of the current Somaliland population was born after 1991, all they've known is Somaliland.. The reality is hard, you cannot undo 30 years easy.... Staying in limbo is more favorable for us, if you say anything otherwise you're lying. Somaliland in limbo favors Somaliland not Somalia as they want SL to become a federal state.

I didn't say the sl youth want reunification i said they want development.

Wel duhh neither somalia or somaliland has leverage over the ic. Unless you see villa somalia as a boogyman.

Somaliland has not beef with ever fms, what the f*ck are you on? They only border pl.

If sl truly has a zero shabaab policy Shabaab would not use your coast aswell.

Do you really think that villa hargeisa has zero communications with shabaab.

 

[TooClean]

There is no leverage. EU and USA consider somaliland part of Somalia, so relieving Somalia debt means also relieving somalilands debt. If somaliland wants development funds from EU & USA, then they have no choice but to agree.

 

[amboli]

Yeah the thing is in their case there is the factor of different ethnic groups, while the case of somaliland is well known by the ic. The dictator committed war crimes on the isaaq, somaliland established, sl civil war war crimes committed against other clans, bribery for territorial growth, fake democracy just like any other state in east africa.

somalilands case is quite unique since the whole case is the previous dictator wrongdoings. The thing is every tribe has suffered under his deadly regime. The ic also knows this.

I don't think you listened to Mousse speech. His main point wasnt to the IC wasnt Siad Barre but it was that the union of Somaliland and Samaliya was not legally binding because there was no bilateral treaty and act of union that was ratified. That's why the IMF and World Bank needs both stakeholders of the Somali Republic to come to terms before proceeding to know who will be liable for loans and debt going forward

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

There goes the Ictiraaf dream

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

I don't think you listened to Mousse speech. His main point wasnt to the IC wasnt Siad Barre but it was that the union of Somaliland and Samaliya was not legally binding because there was no bilateral treaty and act of union that was ratified. That's why the IMF and World Bank needs both stakeholders of the Somali Republic to come to terms before proceeding to know who will be liable for loans and debt going forward

Yeah but it is not leverage though, since both can't take out a loan.

It is mutual destruction.

 

[Abdillahi]

He’ll never face war crime charges - no Somali will ever face them for what previously happened. America had Tukeh in their back yard and let him go.

Things can change if the American deem it to be in its interest. SL will suffer the fate of Yeman within a 10 years if it became a sovereign state. They have no real friends and many enemies.

 

[Abdillahi]

I don't think you listened to Mousse speech. His main point wasnt to the IC wasnt Siad Barre but it was that the union of Somaliland and Samaliya was not legally binding because there was no bilateral treaty and act of union that was ratified. That's why the IMF and World Bank needs both stakeholders of the Somali Republic to come to terms before proceeding to know who will be liable for loans and debt going forward

Bullshit. There is an act of union that is still legally binding to this day, otherwise any country that is a member of the U.N can recognise Somaliland with no problem. Just because the SNM clan terrorist propaganda machine filled your heads with crap does not mean it is real. You cannot become a member of the U.N because your case is too weak...full of logical fallacies. The world works on data, science and legal treaties and not emotional outburst filled with hate. The Nazis were defeated and the world has moved on.

 

[Abdillahi]

There goes the Ictiraaf dream

sxb. It was never going to happen.

 

[Awbarkhadle]

Yeah but it is not leverage though, since both can't take out a loan.

It is mutual destruction.

Exactly kkkkk. The nonsense midnimo talk will come to an end and real negotiations will start over the coming years.

 

[amboli]

Bullshit. There is an act of union that is still legally binding to this day, otherwise any country that is a member of the U.N can recognise Somaliland with no problem. Just because the SNM clan terrorist propaganda machine filled your heads with crap does not mean it is real. You cannot become a member of the U.N because your case is too weak...full of logical fallacies. The world works on data, science and legal treaties and not emotional outburst filled with hate. The Nazis were defeated and the world has moved on.

Put this lad on suicide watch

 

[Diaspora ambassador]

Exactly kkkkk. The nonsense midnimo talk will come to an end and real negotiations will start over the coming years.

What real negotiations what sl wants is independence, this is not on the table.

The only way forward is an union one that is legally binding and benefits sl.