MSB aun

Even though he was a dictator just like AY were clean in regards to not embezzling funds.

MSB had no swiss accounts nor are his family wealthy.

That cannot be said about Sheikh Shariff,Xassan Sheikh , Farmajo and the next president of Somalia.
 
Yeah, true. I met both of the odayal families where they were staying in the UAE. They weren't different from normal folk.
 

Sabu

Carpe diem cras.
Even though he was a dictator just like AY were clean in regards to not embezzling funds.

MSB had no swiss accounts nor are his family wealthy.

That cannot be said about Sheikh Shariff,Xassan Sheikh , Farmajo and the next president of Somalia.

:ulyin::ulyin::ulyin::ulyin:
 

TekNiKo

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Its true one of his daughters working in Columbus Ohio
 

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Show me one foreign asset or properties or farms they have?Zero

MSB family doesnt mean reer Diini.

There were reer Diini who stole millions from the banks.

In September 1985, Craxi became the first Italian prime minister to make an official visit to Somalia, and he promised Siad Barre aid worth approximately $450 million over the next two years. Barre returned the visit and twice came to Rome, where he was received with all honors in 1986 and 1987. When Italian President Francesco Cossiga received the Somali dictator at the presidential palace in 1987, he congratulated Siad Barre, who had just been "re-elected" president with over 99 percent of the vote.

On the Somali side, all the money was allegedly handled by Barre's eldest son, 48-year-old colonel Hassan Mohammed Siad, who had an apartment in the Hotel Raphael in Rome -- the same hotel where Craxi had his permanent residence in the Italian capital. During these years, many members of the Barre family (the dictator had five wives and at least 30 children) acquired property and bank accounts in Switzerland. On the Italian side, the list of beneficiaries reads like a who's who of major construction, engineering and
 

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Even though he was a dictator just like AY were clean in regards to not embezzling funds.

MSB had no swiss accounts nor are his family wealthy.

That cannot be said about Sheikh Shariff,Xassan Sheikh , Farmajo and the next president of Somalia.
Afweyne was murtad
 

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There's 30 of them. It could be that the Swiss accounts were siphoned by only a few like his eldest son. It could also be that much of the money was spent on the war effort after 1991. But the fact remains that the money was there and that Siad Barre's family lived like Saudi royals during the kacaan.
 
Even though he was a dictator just like AY were clean in regards to not embezzling funds.

MSB had no swiss accounts nor are his family wealthy.

That cannot be said about Sheikh Shariff,Xassan Sheikh , Farmajo and the next president of Somalia.

Whoever hacked Diango’s account waxaas Waa qalad. Let him have his opinion.
 
I never shared this story but one of MSB’s daughters Habaryar Not Gonna Say Her Name, worked at Payless retail store during the late 80s. She would come to our house, and bring food from outside once in awhile.

The Government of Oman/Sultan Qaboos, are the ones who assumed responsibility of Reer MSB after his death and took care of them. There were no swiss accounts.
 
There's 30 of them. It could be that the Swiss accounts were siphoned by only a few like his eldest son. It could also be that much of the money was spent on the war effort after 1991. But the fact remains that the money was there and that Siad Barre's family lived like Saudi royals during the kacaan.

The article says he "allegedly" handled it. There is no proof. All of siad barre's kids are known and none of them are rich. None of them have swiss bank accounts. You legit brought an opinion article in the WP as proof :mjlol:.Then added your speculation about where the nonexistent money could've gone. :childplease:
 
Not true, Siyad Barre's relatives and even clansmen robbed Somalia blind. They're not going to admit where the looted assets, let's not be naive.

Haram money is not exactly known for being blessed, they either hid it or blew it up bad investments.

Never believe Kacaanist lies.
Look at the way they talk about Kismayo, they have a penchant for lying and stealing other people's properties and land.


I think Django means the dictator himself, AUN, siad barre, sure his kin and tribes men robbed the country but hassan sheikh, farmajo, sheikh sharif have robbed the country , the top men robbing the country is what he is talking about
 

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Even though he was a dictator just like AY were clean in regards to not embezzling funds.

MSB had no swiss accounts nor are his family wealthy.

That cannot be said about Sheikh Shariff,Xassan Sheikh , Farmajo and the next president of Somalia.
His half brother who died a few years back was a corrupt MF
 
I genuinely think the only two men who have done something for somalia in the last 100 years

are Sayidka in making sure the Christians did not make the isaaq gallows and many Ogaden, Dhulbahante and Mj and other harti died for it,

Sultan keenadiid who civilised the hoto race and fought the Italians were they called the Majerteniya , like how the British were forced named the Ogadeniya as only certain clans fought back - who knows may sultan keenadiid brought islam and af somali to this race , may father used to say he civilised them

when haile selasi told the British he wanted to rule somalia, they laughed, they told him the Sayid's race were too much for us well equipped British, a starving naked African monkey like you will be eaten if the somali race get their hands on weapons, they fight like lions

Cabdullahi Yusuf who wanted to bring back respect to so called a in the zoo known as xamar


Sultans of old like Sultan Ahmed Magan- the Ogaden king who fought the British for 47 years - between 1896 till 1943 - in Jubaland and NFD to the point the British literally just left Jubaland and ran after giving Jubaland to the Italians due to constant wars from this king and his Ogaden soldiers,

no one had made the British ran from a country except for the Ogaden in Jubaland, the Afghans in 1897 and the Americans in 1776 - the British just abandoned Jubaland due to constant wars of no profits against Sultan Ahmed Magan The Brave

and Sultan Abdirahman Mursal- the Sultan of Cawlyahan Ogaden in Bardere who karbashed the British and their marehan and indian foot soldiers for 14 years between 1903 till 1917 in gedo to the point where they said Ogaden is the most formidable foe we every fought in the Africa continent,

every so called leader since cabdulahi yusuf has been bent on not just robbing but to make sure they screw up the country due to cuqdad, forgetting they are leaders for every tribe and back stabbing the federal system and the constitutions they pissed on, i would give anything to have cabdulahi yusuf back for just one month, he could achieve more than the last three did in 10 years in 4 weeks, bloody langabs they should never ever be trusted with power
 

AbdiGeedi

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can you please copy the article if you are able to read it in the US, its blocked from UK due to EU stupid GDPR and its locked as they need a fee before they would let you read a couple of articles before demanding money
Here you go:
THE ITALIAN CONNECTION: HOW ROME HELPED RUIN SOMALIA

By Wolfgang Achtner January 24, 1993

ROME -- The agony of Somalia has its roots in the endemic political corruption of Italy. Throughout the 1980s, Italian politicians and businessmen used the country, once a colony of Italy's, as a playground for huge construction projects that either did little to help the local population or actually disrupted and damaged Somalian society.

"Italy is definitely responsible for the tribal warfare and the genocide in Somalia," says Francesco Rutelli, a congressman for the environmentalist Green Party, which has played a leading role in exposing what has become a scandal in Italy. The United States, while not deeply involved in Somalia, was well aware of what was going on. Two U.S. ambassadors to Rome, Maxwell Rabb III and Peter Secchia, relayed Washington's approval of Italian policy in the Horn of Africa in the late 1980s, according to Western diplomats and Italian officials.

The reality of Italy's cynical role in Somalia is clear from documents made available to Parliament by the Italian Foreign Ministry. They show that Italy sponsored 114 projects in Somalia between 1981 and 1990, spending more than a billion dollars. With few exceptions (such as a vaccination program carried out by non-government organizations), the Italian ventures were absurd and wasteful.

Approximately $250 million was spent on the Garoe-Bosaso road that stretches 450 kilometers across barren desert, crossed only by nomads on foot. More than $40 million was spent to build a brand new hospital equipped with sophisticated machinery and operating rooms, in Corioley, south of Mogadishu. Since the Somalis were unable to run it, the hospital was allowed to fall to pieces. The Italian government paid about $95 million for a fertilizer plant in Mogadishu that never became operational. The Italians even established a University of Somalia -- despite the fact that 98 percent of the population is illiterate. The Italian professors received salaries between $16,000 and $20,000 per month.

"If you consider that from 1981 to 1990 Italian aid to Somalia was almost equal to 50 percent of the country's {Somalia's} GNP and that for years Italy was the major donor of aid to Somalia," says Rutelli, "it's easy to see what a negative influence we had and just how great our reponsibilities are."

Piero Ugolini, a Florentine agronomist who worked for the technical cooperation unit of the Italian Embassy in Mogadishu from 1986 to 1990, says that a majority of Italian cooperation projects were carried out without considering their effects on the local populations. The result, he says, were increasing social tensions that led to the civil war.

In February 1988, for example, Italy donated more than $4 million to set up a joint venture company that would buy cattle and sheep from the pastoral populations. The animals were fattened and exported to provide the Somali government with a source of hard currency. One year later, Siad Barre sold 3,500 head of cattle to the Yemeni army, in exchange for weapons used to fight his rivals, according to Ugolini.

"The Italian aid program was used to exploit the pastoral populations and to support a regime that did nothing to promote internal development and was responsible for the death of many of its own people," Ugolini says.

Ugolini points out that the Italian authorities failed to discourage the use of what he calls "the modern equivalent of slavery" at the former "Duca degli Abruzzi" farm in Johar. More than 3,000 people were employed every year at the farm; most of them came from a prison located in the midst of the sugar plantation. Other workers were "hired" after lists were drawn up during meetings between the director of the farm, the political police, the leaders of nearby villages and the unions. The average pay was between 500 and 700 lira per day, about 50 cents.

Behind these misbegotten projects lay old-fashioned corruption. The Italian construction and engineering companies who were awarded lucrative contracts for the projects provided kickbacks to the political class in Rome and local politicians. The Italian taxpayer footed the bill.

Control over the aid and development projects was shared by all the political parties in exactly the same way that all jobs in the vast public and semi-public sector were divided up. Ethiopia, another former Italian colony in the Horn of Africa, was awarded to the Christian Democrats. The Socialist party got Somalia.

The Socialists' long affair with Siad Barre had its roots in the early 1970s, when the future dictator had embraced socialism and vowed to carry out a revolutionary transformation of the Somali pastoral society. At first, Barre was embraced by the Italian Communist Party. Party officials, leftist intellectuals and sympathetic businessmen all frequented Somalia. But this flirtation ended abruptly in the first months of 1978, after Barre attempted to grab the Ogaden region from Ethiopia. The Somali invasion ended in defeat and humiliation. Barre broke off with Moscow and renounced "scientific Socialism."

In October 1978, the Italy-Somali Chamber of Commerce opened in Milan, the first act of a new political alliance between the Somali Socialist Revolutionary Party and the Italian Socialist Party. The party's new leader, Bettino Craxi, was seeking to make the Socialists a force to be reckoned with. His brother-in-law, Paolo Pillitteri, was the president of the Chamber. Many of the Italian-sponsored construction projects in Somalia in the 1980s were brokered by the Chamber.

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