True, its like 90s HAG wants to conqure all Somalia.
This issue with those people want loot and take Darood lands without thinks about Somalia interest.
BREAKING NEWS MOU DEAD! Somalia and Ethiopia Reach Deal
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This issue with those people want loot and take Darood lands without thinks about Somalia interest.
The hell does this thing supposed to mean? Why is it only somalia that has to discuss sea access with ethiopia and not kenya or eritrea? And why is HSM always secretly sneaking into turkey just to discuss agenda's that is not publicly known?
I just saw people circulating this on Fb and from experience it seems menacing to me cuz everytime I saw a somali official discussing with a foreign counterparts we lost some valuable assets cuz puppets leading somalia go begging everyone for the sake of their pockets at the expense of their nation, I hope things get different this time
I just saw people circulating this on Fb and from experience it seems menacing to me cuz everytime I saw a somali official discussing with a foreign counterparts we lost some valuable assets cuz puppets leading somalia go begging everyone for the sake of their pockets at the expense of their nation, I hope things get different this time
I don't think Farmajo's spat with Rooble was this bad
You guys and HAG bring shame to us as Somali race with your niiko to ethiopian.
Is there something I'm missing? The communique mentions respect territorial integrity, so the MOU is dead. Talks of a naval base or handing over land are officially over, this will be purely commercial.
This is obviously not ideal either way, but when you have a part of the country that is motivated by pure spite, nothing is ideal.
This is obviously not ideal either way, but when you have a part of the country that is motivated by pure spite, nothing is ideal.
I don't know what in his mind but seems HSM has rather lose the whole nation to foreigners than dropping his bid for a third term, it was never never being about national interest but about personal stuff
But instead of just blaming few indiviuals on our misery we can mobalize popular movement across the country to increase the public awareness on the major political issues surrounding us, minimize the impact of qabiilism and clan rifts on the community and demanding both central and regional officials to be accountable to the community so that every major issue should have a national consensus before someone go to represent the whole community on that issue
I know its late but still we have the opportunity to take the right path if we have the will to do so
I cannot imagine even a Somali politician would be so retarded as to get duped by a technicality like that, but I guess we'll see.
This unfair generalization only worsens the situation, allowing puppets that are in control of every region to evade accountability as different clans focus on pointing fingers at each other instead of holding these mooryaan responsible for their actions
Muse bihi didn't want to cooperate with ethiopia cuz it benefits the landers but rather he wanted to secure his seat with the help of foreigners as he saw his chance of winning a second term is grim, and its only heego that are supporting and acting loud as if all of of us were happy with this BS while in reality nihilistic desolation was consuming the majority of us over this thing, and don't forget it was cabdilahi yusuf that cooperated with habeshis first and ahmed madobe still using kenyan tanks to subjugate the somalis in jubaland
So there are hundreds of different issues we can discuss later but for now we must come to an agreement on that cooperating or striking deals with foreign countries before having a central government that controls the whole nation is inherently evil action and can not be tolerated no matter what.
And your uncle Abdullahi Yusuf didn't bring shame on Somalis when he used Ethiopian forces against an elected PL president by claiming they were terrorists and to destroy the ICU in Xamar. You guys can say what you want about HAG, but they've never used Ethiopian forces on other Somalis, and neither have Isaaq.
Anyways, I dont know why everyone is trying to turn this into qabiil tit for tat. No leader in Somalia is independent and has the courage to stand up to Ethiopia. No leader or fms state is better than the other in that regard, waxan noqaneen dad liito and our government is nothing more than a city state.
We have a government that doesn't control Somali lands, non-existent SNA after 20 years of supposedly foreign help, hostile neighbours Ethiopian and Kenyan forces in large numbers in the south, fms leaders whose favourite pastime is going to visit Ethiopia/UAE, puppet leaders who bow down to whatever is dictated to them and a gov which lives on foreign Aid.
Somalia is finished. HSM threw whatever goodwill reer Jubbaland had for the cental gov out of the window, Puntland and Somaliland were already independent. So what do we have left? Galmadug,HirShabelle and Konfur Galbeed.
Just you guys wait and see Somalia will be taken over piece by piece, unless we realise that we need to work together because the truth is we are a nation under occupation which has no true allies.
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Puntland is part of the problem. State official from that region are partly responsible hyperinflation in Somalia by printing counterfeit bills.
That's the crux of the matter. If we were a strong united nation with a strong government and army that could protect its sovereignty then i wouldn't be so paranoid.
Then we could do a Djibouti kind of deal with Ethiopia at a discounted price but under our terms and fully confident that we could protect our sovereignty.
However, we have a gov on life support which doesn't really control anything or have any national power, and yet we are trying to do port deals with our hostile neighbour who from a position of power has been demanding a port willingly or unwillingly.
Why do we have to give them a port? And why do we need to rent them a port? Have you seen this happen anywhere else in the world? Ethiopia waa tuugo, they've seen we are weak and divided so they want to get easy access to the coastline without paying the price.
And for those who think HSM can get good terms on this deal and dictate to Ethiopia what they can and cannot do, then you will be in for a rude awakening when this new port deal takes place.
It isn't bad, it is vague in the same way that the MoU that started this all is vague.
"The two countries will respect one another’s sovereignty. Unity, independence and territorial integrity. They have also agreed to closely work together to finalise “mutually advantageous commercial arrangements and sustainable access to and from the sea under the sovereign authority of the federal republic of Somalia."
It doesn't renounce the MoU directly, but it does promises that anything like the MoU won't ever happen again and that it cannot be followed up upon without the FGS stamp.
The truth is, rumor started circulating of SL being recognized by Trump, if you were Ethiopia, would you hard reneg on it or would you rather walk the road of giving the FGS insurance while at the same time keeping the option open. If SL is recognized, expect Ethiopia to go all in, even if it would complete nuke relationship with Somalia.
All with all it's good enough, nothing for now will happen between Ethiopia and de jure regions of FGS without the FGS signing off to for the foreseeable future.
Some people have melted their brains and convinced themselves HSM is lucifer incarnated, he is corrupt, power hungry and meddles in internal affairs however for now it very much seems like the national well being coincedes with his own.
"The two countries will respect one another’s sovereignty. Unity, independence and territorial integrity. They have also agreed to closely work together to finalise “mutually advantageous commercial arrangements and sustainable access to and from the sea under the sovereign authority of the federal republic of Somalia."
It doesn't renounce the MoU directly, but it does promises that anything like the MoU won't ever happen again and that it cannot be followed up upon without the FGS stamp.
The truth is, rumor started circulating of SL being recognized by Trump, if you were Ethiopia, would you hard reneg on it or would you rather walk the road of giving the FGS insurance while at the same time keeping the option open. If SL is recognized, expect Ethiopia to go all in, even if it would complete nuke relationship with Somalia.
All with all it's good enough, nothing for now will happen between Ethiopia and de jure regions of FGS without the FGS signing off to for the foreseeable future.
Some people have melted their brains and convinced themselves HSM is lucifer incarnated, he is corrupt, power hungry and meddles in internal affairs however for now it very much seems like the national well being coincedes with his own.
Nothing is wrong it's just that most somalis lack comprehension
Upside: No more military base.
Downside: Ethiopian troops stay in Somalia indefinitely. (Thousands more arrived this week)
Cool,
There's no Ethiopian troops in my territory harassing my people. And allows so many other foreign troops to freely roam about doing what they like
Says the guy whose uncle brought xabashi troops to xamar only to get physically slapped.
MJ can't ever talk about somalinimo.
Ethiopian Gen. 'slaps Somali President'
Ethiopian General Gabre Heard has slapped Somalia's interim President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed twice on the face, officials say.
www.hiiraan.com
As much as I'd like no foreign troops the Egyptians would at least be a counter balance to Ethiopian and even Turkish interests. It's not a card you throw away in return for them respecting our sovereignty.We're already a sovereign nation, and don't need affirmation from a 3rd world shithole.
Ethiopia is too arrogant it will be hard to remove once their contract expires
