Most underated 20th century leader

[GemState]

He isn't mentioned, but Suharto ran probably the most successful regimes of the 20th century. More impressive than LKY, Park, etc. None of these guys had to manage a continent wide archipelago. Even more impressive than Atatürk, considering the former inherited the core of a former Great Power, while Indonesia was as backward as Afghanistan 60 years ago. A lot of the populace was straight up hunter gatherers.

In colonial times, few went to university and adult literacy was sub-20% in the early 1970s. The post-colonial period was bound to be difficult. Suharto's regime lifted literacy to over 80% by the 1990s.

It really is one of the all time great development success stories considering the starting point. It should be studied as a reference point for Developing countries.

The best model for big developing countries seems to be to a autocratic ruler that surrounds themselves with and listen to world-class technocrats that support conventional (Washington-consensus) type development policies.

Kazakhstan under Nazarbayev is another good example of this.

 

[attash]

Oh......I thought you going to talk about another 20th century leader with a distinctive mustache, then I noticed it was you who made this post and not @techsamatar.

 

[GemState]

The trick to maximizing long term national strength is to maintain high fertility as long as possible by willingly choosing to not modernize fully. After a gap opens in differential fertility, quickly make reforms, so you are capable of fast economic growth.

It's on a knifes edge though, a very dangerous game. Stay backwards for too long and you become a hopeless failed state with a median age of 18, modernize too early and you end up an old, depopulating middle income shithole like Thailand or the Balkans.

20th century Turkey is the ideal.

 

[Serene Sharif]

Also Naom Chomsky said one of the us presidents I forgot who. Wanted to strip Indonesia if it’s outer islands.( which contains the vast majority of its natural resources)

 

[hayran]

Already had a feeling it was gonna be him kkkk

somalis can easily learn from indonesias legal system but these xoolo don’t really perceive them as Muslim SOLELY bc they aren’t middle eastern

 

[GaradShabeel]

Nazarbayev can’t be compared to Suharto, as they fall into different categories based on their countries circumstances, namely resources.

It should be noted that Kazakhstan is an oil rich nation which has enabled their progress, as well as the (relative) developments made during the Soviet Union.

Indonesia on the other hand was far behind on most metrics and had very little resources to their name nor their land. The developments in other south-east Asian countries during the same time period would be more appropriate to draw parallels from, as they followed more or less similar growths/strategies.

 

[GemState]

Nazarbayev can’t be compared to Suharto, as they fall into different categories based on their countries circumstances, namely resources.

It should be noted that Kazakhstan is an oil rich nation which has enabled their progress, as well as the (relative) developments made during the Soviet Union.

Indonesia on the other hand was far behind on most metrics and had very little resources to their name nor their land. The developments in other south-east Asian countries would be more appropriate to draw parallels from as they followed more or less similar paths of growths.

Correct, but you have to look how Kazakhstan managed to engineer a demographic majority while developing rapidly.

Kazakhstan has good relations with Russia, EU, China, Turkey, US, GCC, etc. He positioned the country marvelously. The Ukrainians couldn't do that, and caused an ethnic war, meanwhile Kazakhstan grows at 5% and is actually doing multipolarity.

The contrast is immense. Nazarbayev really created the Kazakh nation-state.

 

[Basra]

He isn't mentioned, but Suharto ran probably the most successful regimes of the 20th century. More impressive than LKY, Park, etc. None of these guys had to manage a continent wide archipelago. Even more impressive than Atatürk, considering the former inherited the core of a former Great Power, while Indonesia was as backward as Afghanistan 60 years ago. A lot of the populace was straight up hunter gatherers.
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In colonial times, few went to university and adult literacy was sub-20% in the early 1970s. The post-colonial period was bound to be difficult. Suharto's regime lifted literacy to over 80% by the 1990s.
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It really is one of the all time great development success stories considering the starting point. It should be studied as a reference point for Developing countries.

The best model for big developing countries seems to be to a autocratic ruler that surrounds themselves with and listen to world-class technocrats that support conventional (Washington-consensus) type development policies.
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Kazakhstan under Nazarbayev is another good example of this.

Why you do not have a pen.is amazes me,