"More than a third of millennials polled approve of communism"

[Omar del Sur]

That's great news it's lovely to see a 1/3 of millennials are critical thinkers. I have more hope in zoomers though, they didn't grow up in the Bush era of neoconservative corporate propaganda and have the internet at their finger tips from an early age.

I did indeed grow up in the Bush era.

What does that era have to do with anti-Communism?

Bush era neoconservative propaganda was about war with Iraq, Afghanistan and actual or alleged "terrorism". The big bad guy under Bush was alleged to be Al Qaeda, Taliban, Saddam, Osama, people who "hate us for our freedom," "axis of evil," etc.

I do remember there was some anti-Chávez stuff in the media but besides that I don't think anyone was really concerned about Communism.

People in early 2000's were freshly traumatized by 9/11. People were worried about terrorism. People weren't worried about Communism.

 

[Kaafiye]

I did indeed grow up in the Bush era.

What does that era have to do with anti-Communism?

Bush era neoconservative propaganda was about war with Iraq, Afghanistan and actual or alleged "terrorism". The big bad guy under Bush was alleged to be Al Qaeda, Taliban, Saddam, Osama, people who "hate us for our freedom," "axis of evil," etc.

I do remember there was some anti-Chávez stuff in the media but besides that I don't think anyone was really concerned about Communism.

People in early 2000's were freshly traumatized by 9/11. People were worried about terrorism. People weren't worried about Communism.

People really trying to compare Bush's War on Terror with Reagan's anti-Communist movement.

No one paid attention to Venezuela because they were preoccupied with the Middle East. They ignored the Communist dictatorship right under their nose. I get that confronting these evil terrorists is a more urgent goal at the moment, especially after the trauma that was 9/11, and this is why resources were rightfully poured into fighting terrorism rather than countering communism.

 

[repo]

I did indeed grow up in the Bush era.

What does that era have to do with anti-Communism?

Bush era neoconservative propaganda was about war with Iraq, Afghanistan and actual or alleged "terrorism". The big bad guy under Bush was alleged to be Al Qaeda, Taliban, Saddam, Osama, people who "hate us for our freedom," "axis of evil," etc.

I do remember there was some anti-Chávez stuff in the media but besides that I don't think anyone was really concerned about Communism.

People in early 2000's were freshly traumatized by 9/11. People were worried about terrorism. People weren't worried about Communism.

There was an emphasis on free market capitalism, trickle down economics, huge tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy in a period where most people got their information from the TV rather than the internet. That's different today where the some millennials and all zoomers have the internet to educate themselves on these matters.

 

[Kaafiye]

There was an emphasis on free market capitalism, trickle down economics, huge tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy in a period where most people got their information from the TV rather than the internet. That's different today where the some millennials and all zoomers have the internet to educate themselves on these matters.

That's a total and complete lie? What tax breaks?

Bush lowers taxes by a pitiful amount, while spending tons of money on his wars, and that's free market capitalism how?

What about George W Bush screams free market capitalism? Why do you lie so shamelessly on this forum? The way this guy is describing it, Bush was some free market ideologue.

None of this is true

 

[Omar del Sur]

US anticommunism was a joke. Eisenhower was supposedly a conservative and the man HELPED Communists. The US HELPED Stalin. Eisenhower specifically did, as well as others. There is a book by Somoza, the anti-communist Nicaraguan President who was overthrown by the Sandinistas- the book is "Nicaragua Betrayed". I have a copy. Somoza says the US government actually helped the Communists overthrow him. I just read a book called "I Don't Like Ike"- if you think it's unbelievable that Eisenhower was helping the commies, I recommend that book. Lots of evidence is presented which shows that Robert Welch was right to accuse Eisenhower of being pro-Communist.

Look at how Joseph McCarthy was thrown under the bus and very possibly murdered. The man died in 1957- very convenient for the commie agenda.

McCarthy was a patriot and McCarthy was right. The issue was not that he was wrong but that he was telling the truth and that's exactly why he was attacked and why he is villified to this day.

Not only was he telling the truth but the extent of the Communist subversion went even further than McCarthy was telling people. The depth to which the subversion went reached all the way up to Eisenhower- Eisenhower himself was in on it.

This is in part why so much of Eastern Europe ended up in the hands of Stalin. Eisenhower and others deliberately allowed Stalin to take control of Eastern Europe.

Btw this is a really good clip of George Lincoln Rockwell discussing Joseph McCarthy


Now I mention this because- the US is not going to invade Venezuela nor does it intend to.

All the US versus Venezuela stuff is a joke. Chávez would talk like the US was on the verge of invading any second and Maduro does the same thing.

It's simply not happening.

Here is Fidel Castro on the Ed Sullivan show


the US versus Cuba stuff was a joke. The US under Eisenhower helped Fidel get into power.

The Bolsheviks were funded by US Wall Street Jewish bankers from New York. In fact, if I remember correctly the Jew Trotsky himself was from New York.


Who is it the US is invading? Muslim countries. When it comes to being against Cuba and Venezuela, the US is making a joke. When it comes to invading Muslim countries- that's when the US is serious. The ZOG is a lot more interested in killing Muslims than it is in killing commies.

Look at Franco for example. Up until the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan, General Franco's defeat of the Communists in Spain was THE anti-Communist success story.

Franco was also really kind of cool towards Muslims and he actually used to send Muslims on Hajj and he used to finance Hajj for Muslims.

Cuando Franco era considerado "un buen musulmán"

El régimen franquista financió el hajj, la visita que cada musulmán tiene que hacer a La Meca hasta 1951.

www.elindependiente.com

He wasn't one of these super anti-Muslim people like the Spanish far-right today.

Franco was a devout Catholic who wanted to protect Spain's Catholic religion and Franco and his followers loved Spain. The Communists in Spain were killing Spanish people just for being Catholic and were murdering priests and killing and raping nuns. Franco also went after the Freemasons.

Anyways, after he crushes the Communists and saves Spain from the commies- does the US pat on the back and say "wow! great job!"? No. After WW2, people high up in Spain thought the US was going to have Franco overthrown. Franco was serious about fighting Communists, had been neutral in WW2 and the US HATED him. In fact, during the Civil War, the US was lowkey supporting the Communists against him.



All this is just to emphasize how not-serious the US anticommunism is.

Look at MLK- MLK was down with the Communists. The whole Civil Rights movement had a Jewish Communist agenda and MLK is treated like a saint with his own holiday.

The Communists and the Antifa types when they try to pretend they're standing up to the elites are a joke. The Communists and Antifa types are foot soldiers of the NWO. Why do they think George Soros is backing them?



As for this stuff about George Bush being free-market capitalist or whatever...... Bush was a pawn of the Jews who sent US soldiers to kill and die for Israel.

Bush was an evil guy and a willing pawn of Zionism. I can see how people got duped by Obama after him. Bush really helped discredit the conservatives and really gave the leftists such an easy punching-bag. The conservatives couldn't really defend Bush because Bush was/is indefensible.

That being said, the issue is not that Bush was a devout Christian who upheld traditional values. I seriously doubt Bush was a Christian, much less a devout Christian nor was it that he was some follower of Ron Paul type economics.

Pretty much all the Republican candidates talk the "small government" economics rhetoric and pretty much all of them massively expand the government.

It is true that Bush paid lip service to the traditional Repubican talking points in regards to economics but regardless of how much he actually acted in accordance, Bush wasn't some kind of militant anti-Communist.

The Soviet Union collapsed in the early 90's and Fukuyama had declared The End of History. In the 90's and early 2000's there was a general consensus that Communism had failed- I don't think this was because of Bush, this was just a prevailing consensus at the time and I don't think it's correct to attribute it to Bush.

Bush wasn't Pinochet. We didn't live under some militant anti-Communist atmosphere in those days. Communism was not really considered all that relevant. It wasn't considered a big issue.

Now we have tons of millennials and zoomers who are basically Communists now and so now it is relevant again and as the boomers die off and these newer generations take over it seems that it will become more and more relevant until we reach a point where the US is simply no longer a liberal democracy but operates under some weird form of SJW Communism.



IMO the issue is that as George Lincoln Rockwell explains in the audio clip where he discusses McCarthy.... we need to tell the people the truth about Communism.

Communism was a Jewish scam to enslave the goyim, eliminate religion and push towards the New World Order.

Communism was never about improving the lot of the workers. Marx was not some idealistic guy who accidentally made a few miscalculations. Marx was a sinister, malicious guy and Communism is a sinister, malicious and even Satanic system.

The people need to know the truth about Communism. The kids today have repeatedly had their heads pumped full of Holocaust propaganda but are not taught the truth about Communism, the Communists to them are portrayed as though they had been sincere idealists fighting for the working man and so of course they will form the wrong conclusions about Communism. Then if you tell the truth about Communism, it's labelled as "hate speech" and "antisemitism" and you're censored. McCarthy and the people who really fought it are labelled as paranoid, fascist, etc....... given these conditions, given the decline of religiosity and given the increasing prevalence of censorship...... I think it is pretty much inevitable that extreme leftism will grow amongst the youth...... the boomers will die and society will be in the hands of people who don't remember the cold war and will think Communism was an idealistic philosophy seeking to help the poor and who will be sympathetic towards Communism.....

I think the US will eventually end up under some sort of totalitarian extreme-left system- I think that's where it eventally is headed and I think what's going on with the Coronavirus is helping move towards that

 

[Basra]

More than a third of millennials polled approve of communism

More than a third of millennials polled approve of communism

The number of millennials who support communism is on the rise and growing fast

www.marketwatch.com

I have seen it myself that many people are turning into being basically Communists.

I think Communism is an ideology that appeals to resentful, envious types who obsess over what other people have.

However, I don't think people could just randomly be turning Communists.

I think Greta Thunberg is a pawn of a Communist agenda. I think Coronavirus is being used to advance a Communist agenda.

I believe there is a creeping Communist agenda and I believe that society is headed towards a Communist dictatorship.

Also, I think it will be worse than USSR-style Stalinist-influenced Communism.

I think the USSR went in a very different direction due to Stalin rather than Trotsky taking over.

As I understand it, Stalin made the USSR more socially conservative in many regards besides religion- for example, I think he pushed anti-abortion policies.

So as I see it- there was a limit to how far the USSR would actually go. The USSR needed to actually have a functioning society and the society couldn't be completely destroyed- otherwise the USSR wouldn't have been of much use.

I think the new, coming Communism seems as though it will be more unhinged than that which developed in the USSR.

I am also in favor of Communism. I do not really like Democracy post Corona virus. I would luv to be controlled if my housing, my food, and my mental disorder is being taken cared of by big brother.

 

[Kaafiye]

Be that as it may, if America falls into Communism that may be a disaster, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world will follow the same path.

Freedom loving Americans would flee the United States. They might move to Canada or Tanzania, so long as they're not in the United States

Communism is a failed system that has never worked. Even if America tries it, they will implode in on themselves the same way the Soviet Union imploded

People can believe in whatever bullshit ideology they want, but the laws of economics are rock-solid. You cannot defy economics.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Be that as it may, if America falls into Communism that may be a disaster, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world will follow the same path.

Freedom loving Americans would flee the United States. They might move to Canada or Tanzania, so long as they're not in the United States

Communism is a failed system that has never worked. Even if America tries it, they will implode in on themselves the same way the Soviet Union imploded

People can believe in whatever bullshit ideology they want, but the laws of economics are rock-solid. You cannot defy economics.

I haven't said the rest of the world will follow the US. I don't have the mentality of a person panicking. I do think the US will move towards a weird form of leftist totalitarianism but I don't think the transition from liberal democracy to weird new form of totalitarianism until...... at least twenty years from now. The boomers will have to be dead and the millennials will have to be firmly entrenched in the positions of power.

I do think it will be some weird form of leftist totalitarianism but I don't think it will be in accordance with any previously existing model that we know of.

But I think countries like Sweden and Canada are heading towards it faster than the United States.

That being said, I don't believe in the concept that the US rules the world.

I am against that concept. If you look at Hugo Chávez or Ilhan Omar- both in their rhetoric would talk against Israel and the US. But Hugo Chávez was super close with the Jew Chomsky, was a big Chomsky fan and held up a Chomsky book during his famous UN "Bush is the devil" speech.

But neither Omar nor Chávez would simply say "it's the Jews".

I don't think "it's the US". I think "it's the Jews".

I don't think a person can correctly understand things if they say "it's the US" all day but aren't red pilled on the Jews.

I can make a YouTube channel and get hundreds of thousands of views and talk bad about the US. I doubt YouTube will care.

But if I make a YouTube channel and start talking about the Jews and get hundreds of thousands of views, I'm getting banned.

The leftist totalitarian system of the future may be like China where they are capitalist in terms of economics but they still put religious people in camps.

People think Communism is about economics but I don't view it that way. I think Goebbels was correct: "Bolshevism, which is in reality an attack on the world of the spirit".

This is why China would be willing to compromise on the economics- but not on the putting Muslims in camps part. The economics stuff is kind of a smokescreen. What's more primary to Communism is its anti-religious agenda. If we see Communism in primarily economic terms, this is actually a small victory for Communism because we are seeing things in material terms, which is what Communism wants.

Therefore, I'm not sure if the leftist totalitarian system of the future will adopt the disastrous economic policies.

I don't plan on living in the US in the future so it's kind of not my problem as I see it.

I don't want to explain how but I'm actually making money off Coronavirus. My fortune isn't necessarily tied to everyone else's.

@Samaalic Era correctly urged that people should make hijrah. I completely agree.

Look how @sincity portrays Bush like some kind of right-wing extremist. Bush was a big Zionist pawn but Bush wasn't some super far-right guy. However, what was moderate then is extreme right-wing by today's standards.

The center is constantly moving further towards the left.

Things will get much worse, I'm sure.

As @Basra mentioned.... with Communism you can get lots of free stuff.... free housing, food, etc......

I knew a guy from the Soviet Union..... he said they did get free stuff but they also had classes where they taught little kids to be atheists......

so from a purely materialist perspective, it's not necessarily bad. As long as you're not some kind of dissident or religious type, you'll very likely be just fine. And material needs may be taken care of.

But raising your kids in the West today....... even today..... I think is bad if you want them to be religious. They might identify as Muslim but I think they'll very likely believe in a watered down form of Islam, be liberal Muslims and possibly be watered down to the point that they may actually not even qualify as Muslims.

So whether today or in the future..... I think it's best for people to leave the West. The West is degenerate and will get worse. It will try to force its degeneracy on Third World countries but I think whether or not it succeeds will depend on whether the people go along with it. I think some countries will go along with it and some won't. I think it will depend where you are.