Poor people shouldn’t have too many
kids.they will only create more misery and poverty.
More children are born per year in Somalia than in France and the UK
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kids.they will only create more misery and poverty.
How many of those kids survive. There’s a high mortality rate.
It’s not a miracle. It’s aid and diaspora money keeping millions of them barely afloat.
You are always so cynical. I don't remember a single time you posted anything positive about Somalia
mohammdov
Nabadshe
Because there is nothing positive. I see this with my own eyes every day
What do you mean? There has been plenty of positive news. You are expecting instant miracles since your expectations are too high.
Gojo Satoru
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This not anything worth celebrating considering how little resources somalia has already. An extra 700k people every year has disastrous outcomes for a third world country. Canada is a first world country and can barely handle 500k new immigrants every year. The likely outcome is more kids being born into poverty and more people desperately trying to flee somalia. And with climate change occurring in the future they'll probably be shot at the borders instead of being accepted as refugees.
While Somalia U5 mortality in Kenya is somewhat lower than average (mostly due to HIV upcountry), it is ~50% higher than average in Ethiopia. This number needs to come down, but it is not slowing down Somali growth by all that much, our population is growing maybe 0.3% slower due to high infant mortality.
My eyes were really opened to how low fertility derails everything when I read up on parts of India and Myanmar. Places with a per capita income of like $1500 with a TFR of 1.2, despite being mostly rural and agrarian, absolutely fucked up.
For a country like Somalia, calling for lower fertility is a polite way of asking us to kill ourselves.
Unironically the best way to judge a country’s prospects is it's level of development relative to it's fertility, and if that is around the same level of historical patterns in East Asia and the West.
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If Somalis want to be able to go toe-to-toe with Ethiopia in the future, the Somali population of Somalia+Somali Galbeed needs to be at least 1/3 the size of highland Ethiopia.
We will have to fight Ethiopia for Somali Galbeed in the future, I want us to be as large as possible when that time comes. Make the Ethiopians fear our numbers. I would encourage the FGS to recruit SNA directly from Somali Galbeed. Build a Somali ethnic army that (unlike the TDF) has access to international arms markets, ports, a staging ground, and religious fervor.
This is the great project that every Somali knows awaits us. We all know that Jigjiga, Godey and Jarati are ours as much as Beledweyne is ours. We turn away from this task because we lack confidence.
If we have to water federalism down to get this going, so be it.
We are nearing 30 million people in Somalia+Somali Galbeed.
It is shameful that Eritrea, with just 3 million people, is more powerful than we are.
Turkey is not a failed state incapable of basic governance
I can't see Ethiopia breaking as long as Habesha still persist with this cope with trying to govern the whole thing, instead of taking their lands and bouncing.
Honestly, the entire Horn of Africa needs another Berlin conference to divide it cleanly, with the successor states being viable economically.
I see the 13th-century mindset hasn't left Africans. Big population = big economy = African century. A continent full of poor, semi-illiterate children isn't the future.
When Somalis/Africans invest in basic education for the masses then this booming population will be good.
When Somalis/Africans invest in basic education for the masses then this booming population will be good.
This gives me a mix of emotions.
First of the idea of increasing the populations for a country that’s known for poverty, lack of sustainable government and don’t contain sustainable resources is gonna create more poverty.
I don’t mind the rich Somalis that can provide for their families to produce more kids, but only because they have the resource and the right exceptions for providing for their families.
I don’t want Somalis to experience the same fate as Indians (with their high populations).
We have to be modest and focus on the right direction if we want to exceeds like the first worlds.
First of the idea of increasing the populations for a country that’s known for poverty, lack of sustainable government and don’t contain sustainable resources is gonna create more poverty.
I don’t mind the rich Somalis that can provide for their families to produce more kids, but only because they have the resource and the right exceptions for providing for their families.
I don’t want Somalis to experience the same fate as Indians (with their high populations).
We have to be modest and focus on the right direction if we want to exceeds like the first worlds.
It's not good
This is the epitome of third world mentality.
Is it logical for you to push more kids, when your own government can’t even provide for you?
This will create more crises within the country.
-Poverty
-pollution
-illness
List could go on.
