Monarchy

[DR OSMAN]

@Dues Ex Machete
the artificial intelligence age will see us in the aboriginal 'age' for sure as they were throwing spears and white man had guns, huge technological imbalance and with artificial intelligence 'emerging' still 'primitive' but 'maturing' at rapid rates, we could see by the end of the century a new age, an age where an american human no longer speaks to you directly and says speak to the 'machine' regardless what it is, it could be naval ship that is totally automated like 'self driving cars', it could be jetplanes fully automated with robot or without where they simply put in your tuulos 'longitude n latitude' and fire like drones are already doing this.

But it could go much further then that, where each of their industries is officially phased from industralizaton and machines but pure artificial intellignce based, u starting to see glimpses of this already in small stages at shopping centers and 'self services' at 'airports', it's playng 'secondary' role still I know but their will come a time when it's playing the primary role of every industry in the western world. While they look on TV on your society with isbaaros-cheap homes-no infrastructure-no machinery even-no artificial intelligence but 'ape intelligence' as they chase each other around with 'waan ku bursana' kkkkkkk like monkeys do.

The artificial age is already here in small role but as anything new it starts small and expands into playing much larger role in their state. Then once that is done, u will find them at work on the next great leap of the century called 'time' manipulation theory and tests being done on labs on how to shift objects at the speed of light meaning he could be in somalia within 2 seconds and out in 2 seconds quicker then the speed of light as this will be deemed as the next great leap for mankind as they look at u and somalia devolving even further into 'manual labour, farming' kkkkkkk and say 'war waxani ma dad ba' how can ppl live like this as they said of the aborigines who even lacked 'clothes' kkkkkk they even skipped the age of clothing, by the time it reaches 'time manipulation' then it's over there is no reason to call Somalia apart of the human world since their civilizations look more akin to the animal kingdom then like the aborigines did.

Yes I believe in tough love and warning our future kids with experience of knowledge as Somali culture doesn't do this and why we never tend to 'dhaxal' much from the past due to this horrible culture of no knowledge transfer from generation after generation, they just get buried away and u stay stuck unguided on any past information to guide your future decisions so u end up staying the same circle as many generations did like aborigines have shown not an inch of progress inherited whatsoever

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Dues Ex Machete imagine every industry in america as either self service machine where u interact with the machine for inputs or transactions. Where-as other industries in the economy like farming will be totally all aritificial intelligence tractors, U will see massive self driving and automation across buses/taxis/cars/tanks/jet fighters/planes/trains, so the transport sector will revolutionize. Imagine all office and businesses filled with machines or robts doing all the mundane business as usual tasks of service delivery. Imagine a world where human involvement is limited to building these things and maintaining it and that's it. Their working on revoluitionising technology into artificial age and we see it happening already in small scale. Even 3-d printing is out which is based on artificial intelligence, imagine the production rate of those things in every industry lol, it will leave somalis for dead kkkkkk. U know how dire our situation is so don't praise the hordes, if u see them, be firm and tough that's true patriot who is truly in shock at how backwards we are, do not sit there and entertain his idle talk nonsense

Cud u come from that world and into a world like somalia seeing ppl still using hands to farm, seeing govt still using paper and pen manual method, imagine seeing somalia industry with people at the 'core' of it's activity still, it will aptly be named a 'human economy' and western 'artificial intelligence economy' and the world will be split on not developed and undeveloped but artificial vs non artificial economies with you in the non artificial and still in the 'farming' age which is neolithic advances of 12000 years ago kkkkk and your mode of production is donkeys and human labour, so that place surely will be seen outside the 'advanced' world and deemed 'the yet to advance' world and not 1/2/3 world which is purely based nations GDP either being linked to machines vs agriculture/livestock societies, they already defined us as 3rd world meaning 'agriculture economy' is the largest part of your earnings and not industrial or services or knowledge, meaning your still primitive as f*ck and only doing work that is 12000 years old showing not an inch of advancement in your culture which will be deemed as 'primitive' kkkkk there is no other way to describe it. I mean if you guys were shocked by european age of colonialism and cannot get over that 'small' advantage of 'weaponry' that was simply spears vs guns and we saw the huge mark it left, the artificial age is going to blow u off the park, infact the industrial/tech age has already made us look incompotent in every sector of our production

 

[TheYautja]

@SULTAN1 Monarchy requires functioning kingdoms that have social order, heirachy of aristocrats of superior class among them be it Isimo-Odayo Dhaqameed that reports to a kingdom, it needs a penal code(xeer) and a conflict resolution body(nabadoon) at the top echelon of it's society who make decisions for that clan, if this unfunctioning or absent it's not possible to merge kingdoms.

Darod merged into 'darod kingdom' and if their was any functioning kingdom in Somalia we would merge into 'Somali kingdom' but get the message there is no functioning kingdom with Somalis to merge with. So I am suprised we are merging with their civilian class under republican system of 'civilians' how that is workable in your eyes shocks me.

I could technically create a 'state' with Darods since we have 'unified monarchy' at the top of our society and a social order beneath it, this would take 'seconds' to create representative govt of that Monarchy as head of state and the political class then would create the 'govt/courts/parliament structure' following a democratic and district based system with the monarchy having full 'authorization' power, notice their role isn't political or competing they are just the signature u need for anything to be done in the land or society since the land and society are under them, so they will sign off and u go run a-long and simply do it, heck maybe if it's day to day tasks the monarch can delegate that without royal ascension needed and only time royal ascention is needed is in major war, land matters, or any major social or national decision and stay out of the day to day operations like most monarchy are today.

A monarchy is the only suitable govt for Somalis since they hav strong influence and this idea that u will 'destroy' this thru republican system and create 'somali citizenry' u will be here another 200 years as it's not going anywhere and u need to accomodate it and place it where it belong as head of state and the govt-courts-parliament an institution only below it. This will finally bring peace and order in Somalia with power finally defined in history and also justified on ground realities rather then bring some citizen every 4 years from the society and watch him never have power over anything as he struggles to come to grips with his full power on paper when his only an institution himself relying on the monarchy approval so rather then write constitutions that reflect 'americans' maybe starting writing ones that reflect the ground reality and history.

How would a monarchy be established in Somalia? I feel like the process of setting one up would further create strife in the country.

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

@DR OSMAN

I keep up to date on cutting edge breakthroughs in the sciences especially quantum mechanics/computing and the automation processes since they are the future. The quantum computing algorithms that been developed in the last 5 years will easily be able to bring about a new technological revolution since they will be able to process information levels that are not yet comprehensible. And when you talk about the longitude/latitude attacks that are possible you don't have a clue man. This has been an ongoing race for a while and it's called space war. Many countries want to have the capabilities of having machines in space sent up as satalites with the capabilities of striking anywhere on earth as long as their coordinates are placed. This is done with applications much more precise than google earth which is primitive in comparison.

And then I look at the tuktuk drivers and donkey led carts in the nations capital and I shake my head at such primitiveness. We should be at the cutting edge of the African continent and not stuck at the bottom of the 3rd world. This is no surprise since in 2010 Somalia was dead last in the rankings of Failed states in the world with Chad and Sudan ahead of us. Which shows a bleak picture. And I am convinced the problem is quite extensive since the proverbial body is rotten hence the head can't do much to fix it.

To implement a monarchy you would need a populace as subjects, but if that populace is not molded in the right way it won't bring you any benefits to rule over them, on the contrary it'll create only problems.

Nonetheless all great civilizations have had hierarchical societies starting from the Babalonyian Kingdoms to the Pharaohs, the Holy Roman Empire, UK etc we need a hierarchical society that is put into practice since it is not working correctly right now. The 4.5 system is shuuci and makes people equal when it shouldn't be the case.

For instance the Israeli population is relatively small in comparison to the Ethiopian population, but their manufacturing capacity, military capabilities, technological breakthroughs, and GDP are not proportional to their size. Which is why the current model in Somalia is not working since it gives unequal people equal power which is ridiculous.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Dues Ex Machete shuuci sounds good becuz it appeals to human emotion but it hasn't proven anywhere it has actually worked with success, so there is no 'rationale' that is behind it's utopian outlook even though it sounds good. Hey let's just split Somalia wealth 4.5 and assign each clan the same portion, let's do the same with land, let do it with political power, let's just keep rinse n repeating shuucinimo where-ever we see inequality even if it's in the class room, just shuuci that shit forget who performs and doesn't, just shuuci it all 4.5, make the smart ones lose out du to this utopian outlook of equality for all and everyone has the same worth in society, performance n merit are only 'preferred' but not 'requirement' since the shuuci vision is far more 'important' then merit, individualism, class system, heirachy, we simply one big fat class of 'middle' income people we cannot tolerate seeing anyone outside this 'class wealth', if we see rich or poor it's out of the shuuci world view it must be trampled on either thru re-distribution of wealth thru 4.5 and high taxes exacted on the rich and the poor told we cannot tolerate your ass being outside this 4.5 norm, here is money, home, land now look like the 'cookie cut' utopia we want

As u can see it will make all society think with their emotions and not so much if it's applicable in reality. Heaps of Somali is 1, no class no qabiil, no heirachy, 4.5 is our rule across everything will win the largest votes in election as people are just very gullible towards it since it sounds so nice and utopian like

But it's anything but a UTOPIA, it concentrates power/wealth which are two very dangerous recipe into small 'kacaan' chamber of 'regime' and they call themselves 'fathers' ironically like mao and siyad barre did as they see as 'kids of the revolution' against sultanates-religion-capitalist who they hate the most due to their 'strong influence' and who they target the most as it's outside that 'shuuci' idea of 4.5 for all, how dare u divide the people on religion-clan-sultanates-or more importantly wealth groups which is how western countries are divided now which is very much against 'shuuci' idea of class-less society in sub identities-religion-wealth, their must not be anything 'distinct' about you outside that 4.5 social norm or there is hell to pay.

What they don't tell u is power/wealth confined to the state is too much corruption and why it has never worked in practicality, if u hated power concentrated into sultanates-kingdoms-religious circle-merchants, at least it was 'sub divded' in their social order system where everyone played their role in the hierarchy, where-as shuuci reject the notion of hierarchy as it's class system and demand class-less society like 4.5 is purely classless they love that sort of shit of pure equality on wealth-power-status-social rank-clan.

But the problem is when to few people have all the nation centralized in power n money it leads to greed.

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

@DR OSMAN

Don't get the wrong idea about the system that worked during Siyad's era and the system now that is categorized as 4.5 they are completely different in every way. Siyad didn't practice communism he followed a socialist model and they are completely different.

For instance a major difference is that Socialism allows for people to accumulate Private property which leads to aristocracy, communism doesn't allow for private propery.

Furthermore you must admit there are certain case models in which Nationalist Socialism brought rapid advancement in countries such as Germany under Hitler in which their manufacturing and military might eclipsed every European nation quickly.

This was also due to the German people having a good base as well but this governmental system worked for them and the Kacaan as well since schooling and medicine was free. They had competent people within the government and gave out international scholarships based on merit to build up the next generation of leaders. We weren't a large population so it was a plausible idea. Scandanavian countries follow a similar template since they have wealth and small populations,

4.5 on the other hand is an arbitrary quota that doesn't even make much sense, I would be more inclined towards a district based power sharing model going forward and positions given based on merit and not a 4.5 quota in which you put someone into a position to satisfy it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@DR OSMAN

Don't get the wrong idea about the system that worked during Siyad's era and the system now that is categorized as 4.5 they are completely different in every way. Siyad didn't practice communism he followed a socialist model and they are completely different.

For instance a major difference is that Socialism allows for people to accumulate Private property which leads to aristocracy, communism doesn't allow for private propery.

Furthermore you must admit there are certain case models in which Nationalist Socialism brought rapid advancement in countries such as Germany under Hitler in which their manufacturing and military might eclipsed every European nation quickly.

This was also due to the German people having a good base as well but this governmental system worked for them and the Kacaan as well since schooling and medicine was free. They had competent people within the government and gave out international scholarships based on merit to build up the next generation of leaders. We weren't a large population so it was a plausible idea. Scandanavian countries follow a similar template since they have wealth and small populations,

4.5 on the other hand is an arbitrary quota that doesn't even make much sense, I would be more inclined towards a district based power sharing model going forward and positions given based on merit and not a 4.5 quota in which you put someone into a position to satisfy it.

Socialism was born out of Communism is what many people say since they knew it would be impossible to create '1 wealth society' following in communist idea as it would require the govt to own all production in the city and quota the GDP per capita towards each person or in our case it would be 'clan' since that is our social class system not individualism.

4.5 land/economics should technically be the next phases of the shuuci project so everyone has the same portion of land per clan and then the govt has total 'ownership' of all ports-airports-major companies so this is now the concentration of 'wealth' in small 'group of elites' who call themselves 'revolutionaries' in most countries kkkkk as they actually believe what their doing is achievable until they get corrupt themselves and start abusing people with it like siyad did who u can't deny wanted to hold onto power at all cost and would use state owned institutions like the military and taxations on his own society to achieve that end regardless where the problem arose in that society 'aristocrats, capitalist, politicians, religious class' he will crack down and he actually demonstrated that a number of time as he didn't want any institution alive from the old world with any power not even religion and sure as hell not capitalist who have more money then the state is totally against communist philosophy as it makes them hostage to a small few. But they also hate 'monarchs' and their traditional social order system since it's hierarchal and fuedal to them.

Where-ever u find these class of people monarch-aristocrats-religion-capitalist are usually the big 'target' of the revolutionaries first as they exile them or kill them from the get go before the 'shuuci' project of 4.5 for all is rolled out in health-education-land reforms-wealth and they promote that all be loyal to the 'national identity' and not any 'sub identities' as they crack down on that too. What is difference between national social group vs clan social group, it's still identity politics and leads to same problems of clashing with other identities at regional or global scale like demonstrated in european nationalist era, it led to a vicious world war 2. So Identity politics should be rejected all together but when I see Somali pushing Somali identity against Clan identity, I just 'scoff' at their stupidity kkkkk as it breeds the same outcome maybe not locally but regionally n globally. If they actually said their against all forms of identity politics and not picking n choosing what poison suits their 'agenda' then ppl might actually start seeing them as 'realistic' now but it's stupid to say I hate whisky but I love wine' but it's still all alcohol at the end of the day, and identity politics is the same it's just various forms of identity like religious-nationalist-tribal, but it's still a mere identity and it's worse when u want hand out for it kkkkk just cause your some identity kkkkk that's the lowest form of politics, there is no hand outs in the monarchy and sultanates everyone had to earn their 'rank' niyahow in society be it poet-merchanat-nomad-farmer-warrior-fishermen-politician-academic-men-women-children no-one was simply given 'rank' beyond what they actually constituted in the clan, so it's far more better system then nationalist crap where everything is automatically merited to you on nationalist grounds, it leads to no innovation like saudi arabia is today as life is made easy for u over something as pathetic as 'identity' kkkkk and identity isn't worth 'money' so it's stupid concept.

Oh my Dues u r making go so philosophical waryaa but I will admit that western world today as 'mixed' economy but a very republican national identity first mind-set which is probably quasi nationalist-mixed economy and the 'mix' variation is different nation to nation but the economic actors are 'low-middle-high' there is no dispute in that fact or that mixture in the market, the only question is which is the 'largest' component in wealth group with most western nations the middle class is by far the largest component of wealth group if combined with the poor a small rate in comparison to their population and the rich are small rate also but the 'variation' of this from nation to nation really defines how 'socialist or capitalist' they are with 'america leaning towards' capitalist side with a far bigger share of the pie towards a small group in the market and sweden leaning towards re-distributing their top echelon wealth thru strong taxes and redistributing to increase the middle ownership of wealth while reducing the poor and putting them in the middle either thru welfare or thru job creation.

So the scales r sweden n america on the mixed economy but their still mixed both of them with wealth concentrated across various segments in their society the only question is the 'rate' of wealth per each segment is different and some r clearly conservative economies with large top-average middle-big poor and other social liberal economies with small top and large middle, small poor

That is the problem with 'shuuci' and probably why @PuntiteQueen will never accept 'concentration of power' in one 'office' and I doubt she will sit by idly if u try to concentrate 'wealth n land' into 4.5 either as their against the whole philosopy of equality thru govt intervention not the actual concept of equality if u earn it kkkkkk. This mixed economy came down to merging capitalism/communism and it created a center ground between the two sides which broke down into social liberalism and conservatives, so their not at that polar extreme anymore of 1% has all the wealth nor at the 99% has the same wealth, they mish mashed it to spread the wealth across 'various' wealth classses and segments and now only debate on where it should be 'directed' more with conservatives arguing for the top class and social liberals arguing for growing middle and smaller poor class. But it's come a long way from those extreme points of capitalism vs communism cause none of that is in operation in their nation today as you can clearly see their wealth groups wealth is varied and spread out

 

[Anubis]

@DR OSMAN

Ninyahow Saldanada waa soo jireen dhaqanka ma galo dheel dheel iyo ciyaar the last say in any nasaab community is the King.

The man in the middle is Ugaas Mohamed and to his left is Boqor Burhan.

what qabil is he from

 

[Dues Ex Machina]

what qabil is he from

Ugaas Mohamed is Marehan/Sade/Darod