Mohammed Hijab and Andrew Tate conversation coming soon

[Izzy77]

I am reaching?

You were very happy to go back and forth on my comparison until I brought up that the sex expert didn’t say anything haram.

Now that it weakens your argument, you switch to saying that I am reaching…

your reaching the main argument agaisnt the sisterhood podcast was the sister who exposed her mistakes and host who didnt mention about coming close to zina.

You said "Weren’t they cancelling Digital Sisterhood for having a “sex expert” "

This wasnt even the main reason they were attempted to be canceled.

 

[Periplus]

your reaching the main argument agaisnt the sisterhood podcast was the sister who exposed her mistakes and host who didnt mention about coming close to zina.

You said "Weren’t they cancelling Digital Sisterhood for having a “sex expert” "

This wasnt even the main reason they were attempted to be canceled.

So they were canceled about a woman who shared how they were taken advantage of when they were underage?

Even if you’re right, don’t you think it’s unfair to cancel an entire podcast over one episode.

Unless you’re accepting that you are pro-cancel culture?

 

[Izzy77]

So they were canceled about a woman who shared how they were taken advantage of when they were underage?

Even if you’re right, don’t you think it’s unfair to cancel an entire podcast over one episode.

Unless you’re accepting that you are pro-cancel culture?

Of course its harsh to be canceled over one episode

I see this as a opportunity for hijab to correct Tate in things he has said in the past and talk about Islam and provide more of a understanding. Tbf we cant say much until the podcast is out i dont want to defend it too much lol.

 

[Qeelbax]

He is trying to advise him

Then you do that privately

 

[Qeelbax]

Do these “muslims” supporting this and aligning this wasakh with islam count as munafiqs?

 

[Qeelbax]

@Abu Ash’ari @Angelina @Jaydaan @Periplus @Leila

I’m sure if you were truly looking to give someone controversial and who’s image is anti-islam dawah, you would do it privately. But no, they would rather bond over western hate when both are two sides of the same coin when it comes to western bullshit.

@Abu Ash’ari someone on Twitter posted this. If Sahaba refused to talk to people like this, then are muslims “obligated” to speak and bond with pimps? Especially when their audience are impressionable men?

 

[Angelina]

Sister Wallahi your reaching

I agree with many of your arguments. But your tryna a case with many things which don’t work.

There’s always gonna be shame on girl who is a prostitute. Idk what brother would even talk to one without fearing allah. Unless knowing she is interested in islam.

Hypocrisy detected. The Prophet s.a.w cursed the prostitute and the pimp. Also, if you’re so against prostitution why would you talk to a man that traffics and creates prostitutes of young women?

Especially in the light of the fact that 70% of prostitutes have been forced by pimps? Who is worse the one forced or the one that is doing the forcing?

This is like a sister speaking to a pimp a man who mistreats females. Why in the world would she talk to such a man.

Prostitutes don’t mistreat men. Men are the ones that seek prostitutes. Incredibly weak and terrible argument. Absolutely terrible. Prostitutes have mostly been forced throughout history through pimps like Andrew or poverty. Hence it most certainly doesn’t go both ways.

If a sister invites a prostitute to a podcast the contents of the podcast is very much relevant.

Such a sister would be reviled and be called a wh0re herself. We’ve all seen how you lot lied about a sister who talked regrettingly about her past and even then she was accused of exposing when she even used a fake name.

Also, inviting a prostitute who is famous on TikTok that spreads harmful ideologies is dangerous as such a woman is already popular therefore, id be afraid of exposing her even more and maybe the younger lot getting curious and searching her, especially if she was banned already such the case of Tate.

I bet this podcast with tate and hijab is about philosophy and how sees the world rather than his haram which is the opposite of the sisterhood podcast.

Authobillah. Your biased view is clear to see. A man that is very much a poster boy of the degeneracy of the West can give you an insight to philosophy?

Is that how low our men have gone. In which you have more compassion for a man that trafficked and pimps women and engages in excusing rape to a sister talking about her regrets and now she felt pressured?!

Your sexism knows no bounds but Allah will deal with men like you. Re-read the qashin you wrote and it is clear as day even a Zaani pimp is valued more than us sisters.

Everyone does haram but there’s more to tate then his sins. To talk about with hijab.

More to Tate? What exactly? The fact that you think he’s an Alpha man or that you lowkey admire him?!

While a prostitute will most likely talk about her sins and she has done.

What is a difference between a pimp and prostitute? Usually the pimp is even worse as they damage society.

Wallahi sister I understand there’s a agenda but maybe try to put it together better.

The agenda has worked, we have so called brothers like you writing the garbage you wrote. You’re so biased that you can’t even think clearly. The redpill and manosphere has done a number on you that you can’t even see the hypocrisy.

 

[Qeelbax]

Hypocrisy detected. The Prophet s.a.w cursed the prostitute and the pimp. Also, if you’re so against prostitution why would you talk to a man that traffics and creates prostitutes of young women?

So women are shamed, but men aren’t? Especially in the light of the fact that 70% of prostitutes have been forced by pimps? Who is worse the one forced or the one that is doing the forcing?

Thanks for proving my point about your blantant hypocrisy and immorality.

Prostitutes don’t mistreat men. Men are the ones that seek prostitutes. Incredibly weak and terrible argument. Absolutely terrible. Prostitutes have mostly been forced throughout history through pimps like Andrew or poverty.
It goes both ways.

Such a sister would be reviled and be called a wh0re herself. We’ve all seen how you lot lied about a sister who talked regrettingly about her past and even then she was accused of exposing when she even used a fake name.

Authobillah. Your biased view is clear to see. A man that is very much a poster boy of the degeneracy of the West can give you an insight to philosophy?

Is that how low our men have gone. In which you have more compassion for a man that trafficked and pimps women and engages in excusing rape to a sister talking about her regrets and now she felt pressured?!

Your sexism knows no bounds but Allah will deal with men like you. Re-read the qashin you wrote and it is clear as day even a Zaani pimp is valued more than us sisters.

More to Tate? What exactly? The fact that you think he’s an Alpha man or that you lowkey admire him?!

What is a difference between a pimp and prostitute? Usually the pimp is even worse as they damage society.

The agenda has worked, we have so called brothers like you writing the garbage you wrote. You’re so biased that you can’t even think clearly. The redpill and manosphere has done a number on you that you can’t even see the hypocrisy.

These men deadass have rocks for brains. It’s like you have to explain every little thing to them. No wonder they need a pimp to hold their balls for them

 

[Angelina]

These men deadass have rocks for brains. It’s like you have to explain every little thing to them. No wonder they need a pimp to hold their balls for them

It’s a combination of lack of reading, little insight to the world and manosphere arguments flooding the internet.

I’m shocked at their level of critical thinking tbh.

 

[Angelina]

It's legal in Europe .
Online prostitution is allowed in the US such as onlyfans & webcam services.
You know for a fact what his buisness was exactly ,so dont come on here twisting points to win a senseless argument .

That doesn’t take away the point that prostitution is indeed controversial and it isn’t legal in all Western nations despite being liberals.

it’s heavily restricted and you know it. Let’s know act like the average gaal would be okay with his daughter, sister ect being that or that normal functioning women would
Want to do such a thing

They sexually exploit them themselves. The rise of onlyfans & its content creator proved it .

nope, 70% of prostitutes have indeed been trafficked. A quick google search and studies show this. Especially in places like Romania. You need to understand that outside onlyfans ect the very vast majority of women go into it to due to force and or extreme poverty.

They consent to it themselves like mia Khalifa and 5-10 years later they come out & cry "exploitation" & then open up an onlyfans again lol.

Mia Khalifa is a washed up woman who did it willingly. She herself simply says she did it out low self esteem. She was a and is a privileged woman who sold her dignity.

She is a minority. It is a fact that the vast majority of Prostitutes have been trafficked. Especially in poor countries like Romania in which Tate resides in.

Actually researching this and educating yourself instead of arguing with me would tell you this. There are whole documentaries on vice that explores that issue. In Romania, some families even sell their daughters and even church’s take money from rich pimps to find more young girls. That is the world we live In. I’m sick and tired of men like you burying your head in the sand to get a gotcha moment on women.

What are you talking about? I didn't talked about that incident ,since I didn't even listened to a single minute of that trash podcast.

 

[Angelina]

Stop misinterpreting what I am saying. My point is entirely relative to secular liberalism and have never objectively complimented him.

you have. He clearly embodies masculinity in your eyes, hence why you’d defend a pimp.

The only admiration for tate I have is in regards to his view on masculinity.

You’ve just said you admire him, yet you have issues when people point out what you just said right now. Rather illogical.

Tate/the redpill movement as a whole is not a correct ideology in and of itself. I have never said that so do not put words in my mouth. However these ideologies overlap with Islam far greater than secular liberalism.

Redpill overlaps with Islam? We’ve reached a point in which our Muslim brothers think that Islam endorse blantant sexism. Yet, you lot are the first to cry foul when gaals associate Islam with abuse and hatred of women.

This was my entire point, so if you disagree with that please bring up any ideaologies of the west that somehow provide closer views on gender dynamics than the redpill movement provided.

Redpill has nothing to do with Islam and isn’t close. Unless you believe that Islam looks down on women, that is the only way you can make such a disgusting assessment. Also, redpill is always very big on getting as much women as possible and sleeping around. How can you say that an ideology that centers around zina and getting as much women as possible is close to Islam?! Rollo The Godfather of the redpill movement focuses on that in the Rational male.

You’ve allowed your own small minded misogynistic tendencies to cloud your judgement. You’ve now come to the conclusion that a movement that glories Zina ect is close to Islam.

That is what happens when you don’t educate people on basic Islamic concepts and young men are raised to believe that Islam is a male rights religion that merely caters to them.

@Bundasliga The fact that you liked his comment is disturbing tbh and says a lot about how you view Islam.

 

[Izzy77]

Hypocrisy detected. The Prophet s.a.w cursed the prostitute and the pimp. Also, if you’re so against prostitution why would you talk to a man that traffics and creates prostitutes of young women?

Especially in the light of the fact that 70% of prostitutes have been forced by pimps? Who is worse the one forced or the one that is doing the forcing?




Prostitutes don’t mistreat men. Men are the ones that seek prostitutes. Incredibly weak and terrible argument. Absolutely terrible. Prostitutes have mostly been forced throughout history through pimps like Andrew or poverty. Hence it most certainly doesn’t go both ways.




Such a sister would be reviled and be called a wh0re herself. We’ve all seen how you lot lied about a sister who talked regrettingly about her past and even then she was accused of exposing when she even used a fake name.

Also, inviting a prostitute who is famous on TikTok that spreads harmful ideologies is dangerous as such a woman is already popular therefore, id be afraid of exposing her even more and maybe the younger lot getting curious and searching her, especially if she was banned already such the case of Tate.

Authobillah. Your biased view is clear to see. A man that is very much a poster boy of the degeneracy of the West can give you an insight to philosophy?

Is that how low our men have gone. In which you have more compassion for a man that trafficked and pimps women and engages in excusing rape to a sister talking about her regrets and now she felt pressured?!

Your sexism knows no bounds but Allah will deal with men like you. Re-read the qashin you wrote and it is clear as day even a Zaani pimp is valued more than us sisters.

More to Tate? What exactly? The fact that you think he’s an Alpha man or that you lowkey admire him?!

What is a difference between a pimp and prostitute? Usually the pimp is even worse as they damage society.

The agenda has worked, we have so called brothers like you writing the garbage you wrote. You’re so biased that you can’t even think clearly. The redpill and manosphere has done a number on you that you can’t even see the hypocrisy.

First of all the trafficking claims have been debunked. unless you show me new proof

Is there proof he is forcing these girls. Show me cause ive never seen proof of girls saying they were forced to work under him. This is very much slander if it isnt true and if he has became a muslim.

Show me the hadtih where prophet (pbuh) said we cant speak to a pimp and do dawah.

Your making claims ive never heard and some which have been debunked. You are sinning and slandering a man you dont even know . Show me the proof i have asked for.

Also tate has been on a podcast with nouman ali.


he was very much respectable and with hijab he might speak on his ideology which hijab can correct with islamic references.


Also i didn't compare prostitutes and pimps saying one is worse stop putting words in my mouth to suit you gender war fixed mindset. Dont put words in my mouth either critique what i have wrote or iska amuus.

I said why would a fearing brother speak to prostitute. Vice versa a sister with a pimp.

( it was probably a bad comparison) but the plan was to show you that why would a brother speak to a prostitute in the first place

 

[Izzy77]

Re-read the qashin you wrote and it is clear as day even a Zaani pimp is valued more than us sisters.

I critiqued the sisterhood which you agreed with multiple times

I posted an a summary which i acknowledged for being exaggerated.

Now your making these claims lol.

Lets end it here you had a issue with the exaggerated tweet i posted but here you are exaggerating and making up things i have and havent said and you call out hypocrisy.

 

[Periplus]

@Angelina and @Qeelbax are a cut above in terms of intellect and critical thinking. I often find their takes to be very nuanced.

They don’t fall for red-pill or radfem rhetoric but rather an Islamic understanding that we can all agree with.

 

[Bundasliga]

no, he was/is an orthodox christian and has said so multiple times. he gave thousands to the orthodox church. he believes in God, he’s not some secular guy. pimping is illegal in the countries he’s resided in: america, the UK and romania. online or not, pimping is pimping. your defence is kinda terrible, prostitution is illegal in the US and the orthodox church he donated thousands to has made their stance on prostitution and pimping clear. how could he donate to them but not know they’re against his line of work? he’s a hypocrite. simple.

He was agnostic/atheist then became religious again .

Prostitution is not illegal, having a pimp is not illegal, doing online sex work isn't illegal, onlyfans isnt illegal.

If there's consent & no on is forced then you breaking the law ,simple.

the orthodox church he donated thousands to has made their stance on prostitution and pimping clear. how could he donate to them but not know they’re against his line of work? he’s a hypocrite. simple.

The only good point you made & i agree with that

 

[Angelina]

First of all the trafficking claims have been debunked. unless you show me new proof

Debunked by who? Are you talking about traficking in general or Tate? Even if Tate is 100% trafficking, he isn’t going to be caught as he choose to move to a country with the most laxest laws and in which trafficking happens often.

He even said that you can pay off officers there, so I don’t understand why you brothers love to talk about the law in society that is lawless when it comes to bribes and Tate even admits this.

You lot are smarter than this.

Is there proof he is forcing these girls. Show me cause ive never seen proof of girls saying they were forced to work under him. This is very much slander if it isnt true and if he has became a muslim.

You can’t use the slander laws against a gaal who is most definitely a pimp. Funny how you care about the slander of a gaal, but you were willing to post screenshots of men on twitter slandering Muslim women.

Tate is most definitely valued more than us in the eyes of many Mus

Show me the hadtih where prophet (pbuh) said we cant speak to a pimp and do dawah.

I never said you can’t do Dawah. It’s the public exposure of man that was banned from all platforms and is known degenerate is the issue. Preach to him in private but having a discussion about the degeneracy of the West when he is the poster child of that immorality is ironic. Clout chasing the the max.

Your making claims ive never heard and some which have been debunked. You are sinning and slandering a man you dont even know . Show me the proof i have asked for.

I’m not sinning. Love the way you’ll defend the honor of a pimp. It is a fact that he is a pimp. Saying that makes me a pimp?

It is a fact that he said that he moved to Romania to lax rape laws.

wallahi if I was to defend an only fans prostitutes the way you defend a pimp who even has ventured on only fans himself, my morality and honor would be questioned

Also tate has been on a podcast with nouman ali.


he was very much respectable and with hijab he might speak on his ideology which hijab can correct with islamic references.

this is merely an example as to how Western Dawah influencers have become YouTube sensationalists.

Mark my words in a year time, people will wake up and cringe that such a thing was happening. This will not age well.

Also i didn't compare prostitutes and pimps saying one is worse stop putting words in my mouth to suit you gender war fixed mindset. Dont put words in my mouth either critique what i have wrote or iska amuus.

I said why would a fearing brother speak to prostitute. Vice versa a sister with a pimp.

A pimp is the same if not worse. especially in the light of the fact that 70% of prostitutes have been forced by pimps and that they cause mass suffering in society.

( it was probably a bad comparison) but the plan was to show you that why would a brother speak to a prostitute in the first place

 

[Izzy77]

Debunked by who? Are you talking about traficking in general or Tate? Even if Tate is 100% trafficking, he isn’t going to be caught as he choose to move to a country with the most laxest laws and in which trafficking happens often.

He even said that you can pay off officers there, so I don’t understand why you brothers love to talk about the law in society that is lawless when it comes to bribes and Tate even admits this.

You lot are smarter than this.

You can’t use the slander laws against a gaal who is most definitely a pimp. Funny how you care about the slander of a gaal, but you were willing to post screenshots of men on twitter slandering Muslim women.

Tate is most definitely valued more than us in the eyes of many Mus

I never said you can’t do Dawah. It’s the public exposure of man that was banned from all platforms and is known degenerate is the issue. Preach to him in private but having a discussion about the degeneracy of the West when he is the poster child of that immorality is ironic. Clout chasing the the max.

I’m not sinning. Love the way you’ll defend the honor of a pimp. It is a fact that he is a pimp. Saying that makes me a pimp?

It is a fact that he said that he moved to Romania to lax rape laws.

wallahi if I was to defend an only fans prostitutes the way you defend a pimp who even has ventured on only fans himself, my morality and honor would be questioned

this is merely an example as to how Western Dawah influencers have become YouTube sensationalists.

Mark my words in a year time, people will wake up and cringe that such a thing was happening. This will not age well.

A pimp is the same if not worse. especially in the light of the fact that 70% of prostitutes have been forced by pimps and that they cause mass suffering in society.

We dont know if he has taken the shahada his friend didn’t fully clarify. Idk how you are so certain he is a gaal after his friend confirming his interest in islam. He is a pimp didnt deny and idc about his honour. But if your gonna criticise him at least say something which is true. I’m sure there’s other ammunition you could’ve used. Instead of using a statistic or his location as ultimate proof.

Also I agree with the clout chasing claim you made mohammed hijab can advise in private if his goal is to do dawah.

 

[Dualke]

you have. He clearly embodies masculinity in your eyes, hence why you’d defend a pimp.

I've literally stated multiple times that there are fundamental issues with Tate and the redpill movement however I agree with the aspect regarding masculinity. Yet you take a caricature of what I say and try to apply it on my entire character as if you know me in real life. I never said he "embodied" masculinity because the redpill movement is not my ideal moralistic beliefs. Please stop using low talking points and then acting smug about it as if you had debunked me

You’ve just said you admire him, yet you have issues when people point out what you just said right now. Rather illogical.

Same thing as above

Redpill overlaps with Islam? We’ve reached a point in which our Muslim brothers think that Islam endorse blantant sexism. Yet, you lot are the first to cry foul when gaals associate Islam with abuse and hatred of women.

General barking with no substance

Redpill has nothing to do with Islam and isn’t close. Unless you believe that Islam looks down on women, that is the only way you can make such a disgusting assessment. Also, redpill is always very big on getting as much women as possible and sleeping around. How can you say that an ideology that centers around zina and getting as much women as possible is close to Islam?!

My argument was a comparative analysis between tate/the redpill movement and secular liberalism, in which I was in favor of the former. You have not provided any reasons as to why secular liberalism is superior to the redpill movement, but instead twist it into me defending tate as if I was some diehard fan. Another low talking point that hasn't dismissed what I said.

Rollo The Godfather of the redpill movement focuses on that in the Rational male.

There is not once collective mind in regards to the redpill movement there are multiple different strata such as MGTOW, PUA, MRA

You’ve allowed your own small minded misogynistic tendencies to cloud your judgement. You’ve now come to the conclusion that a movement that glories Zina ect is close to Islam.

Said it was closer to Islam in relation to secular liberalism. This does not make it close to Islam objectively, again with the caricatures and bad faith arguments.

That is what happens when you don’t educate people on basic Islamic concepts and young men are raised to believe that Islam is a male rights religion that merely caters to them.

General barking again

@Bundasliga The fact that you liked his comment is disturbing tbh and says a lot about how you view Islam.

???

 

[Bundasliga]

That doesn’t take away the point that prostitution is indeed controversial and it isn’t legal in all Western nations despite being liberals.

it’s heavily restricted and you know it. Let’s know act like the average gaal would be okay with his daughter, sister ect being that or that normal functioning women would
Want to do such a thing

That takes away all your points . You literally had no points to begin with.

There is someone who might took his shahada & you are here throwing a tantrum and questioning everyone's stance about his past.

There is a reason someone's sins are forgiven when they revert to islam .

Do we know his intentions? No .
So why you arguing about some dumb shit ?

 

[Dualke]

That takes away all your points . You literally had no points to begin with.

There is someone who might took his shahada & you are here throwing a tantrum and questioning everyone's stance about his past.

There is a reason someone's sins are forgiven when they revert to islam .

Do we know his intentions? No .
So why you arguing about some dumb shit ?

Never engaged in these glorified gender disputes because I think it's stupid but it's actually quite a mind f*ck how willing these people are to resort to caricatures/personal attacks. Literally just fluff for their baseless arguments lmao