Mogadishu government TV has begun reporting in Swahili

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Why focus on learning new languages when we can help modernize and improve the Somali language? We don’t even have a national script. Our Language is written in Latin. We need to prioritize improving the Somali language and it’s vocabulary.

During the Kacaan we had government institution called the language committee that was tasked with updating our vocab.

The technical terms we have today that are authentic somali are from that era, we should focus on bring that back.

Also if we are going to learn a new second language Swahili is an inferior creole language, better to have English and/or Arabic.

 

[Cartan Boos]

Who tf is this guy

 

[Cartan Boos]

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[Garaad Awal]

Lets be honest here, there's more Somali-Swahili speakers than Arabic

 

[Kool-Aid]

 

[Xanibacal bin Barqa]

guys , we gotta practice before we visit the Hooyo-land .
Say after me :

Hakuna matat
mazuuri sana
ataka wewe
Mushiguli ugaali

Shit , my madax is xanuuni
Now I need
some kiniini

 

[GaradShabeel]

HSM’s advisor isn’t happy with the minister speaking Swahili and she’s totally right.

 

[GemState]

Somalis are mainly going to immigrate to Kenya/Tanzania in the decades to come. No harm in learning Swahili as an additonal language

All you nigs need to get fkin real. Somalia is to Africa what Albania is to Europe, nobody is coming here, we're going to them.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Somalis are mainly going to immigrate to Kenya/Tanzania in the decades to come. No harm in learning Swahili as an additonal language

All you nigs need to get fkin real. Somalia is to Africa what Albania is to Europe, nobody is coming here, we're going to them.

If the intentions by some Somalis are to settle in other EAC countries, which they have the rights to do, then FGS/FMS and Somali authorities should not actively contribute and enable brain drain and human capital flight. Let any Somali who are interested in learning Swahili to do so on their own accord.

 

[GemState]

Contribute and enable brain drain and human capital flight.

Sent from: Europe.

Most Somalis worth their salt has fled already or has assets abroad anyway. Atleast the proles will have a chance to be more productive in other countries. Remittance is keeping Somalia afloat, there are no jobs

 

[GaradShabeel]

Sent from: Europe.

Most Somalis worth their salt has fled already or has assets abroad anyway. Atleast the proles will have a chance to be more productive in other countries.

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that Somalis has the right to settle in other EAC countries?

A government/authorities proactively working on increasing the emigration of its people, defeats the purpose of their assigned responsibilities. Irrespective of the current state of the country.

 

[GemState]

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that Somalis has a right to settle in other EAC countries?

A government/authorities proactively working on the emigration of its people defeats the purpose of their assigned responsibilities. Irrespective of the current state of the country.

The problem is you think development is still possible. Everything Somalis have built amounts to absolutely f*ck all in the scheme of things.

For a peripheral African country with no oil, sky high fertility, no developmental sponsor, low literacy, very expensive electricty, no smart fractions like the SEA Chinese, or any other resources in quantity that actually rapidly speed up economic growth to 10-15% per year, there is nothing to speak of. Somalia isn't going to meaningfully develop or amount to anything.

The only real way to actually decrease remaining global inequality is just through mass immigration to more wealthy societies. Somalis will be an emigrant population, similar to 19th Century Irish, Albanians, Filipinos etc.

We're nomadic in heritage anyway, so I suppose it's not so out there.

 

[GaradShabeel]

The problem is you think development is still possible. Everything Somalis have built amounts to absolutely f*ck all in the scheme of things.

No. I did not make the assumption that Somalia may become a prosperous nation. Hence, why I said, irrespective of the current state of the country.

I was arguing from the point of view that it’s illogical, theoretically speaking, for the state to have an agenda set on an intentional outward migrations. Unless it’s matched with an similar amount of migration in return. The effect of this would be felt in the long run.

For a peripheral African country with no oil, no developmental sponsor, low literacy, very expensive electricty, no smart fractions like the SEA Chinese, or any other resources in quantity that actually rapidly speed up economic growth to 10-15% per year, there is nothing to speak of. Somalia isn't going to meaningfully develop or amount to anything.

Somalia has only itself to blame for not unlocking their true potentials, through the decades of no meaningful political advancement towards a stabile country. Regardless of whatever governance we would’ve decided to implement.

Some of the examples you gave are either easily fixable or could find ways to reduce the effect. The borderline-extortion rates of electricity costs can be heavily reduced though Ethiopia’s high supply of energy. A stable country would pave the way for investors to take advantage of the low-income status and establish industries, and enable aid the local traders to do the same. More bilateral agreements with partner countries willing to increase trade and offer international loans etc. Open up more schools, possibly hire a select number of foreign trained teachers to develop an educated population in specific regions and so do forth.

This sounds too optimistic, but if Somalia got its sh*t together, or at least, created some semblance of stability, we could be afforded some growth to avoid being the bottom of the barrel of international, or just based on continental standards. But alas, no. Hence, if anything, Somali gov’ts should focus on this rather than emigrations.

The only real way to actually decrease remaining global inequality is just through mass immigration to more wealthy societies. Somalis will be an emigrant population, similar to 19th Century Irish, Albanians, Filipinos etc.

How about addressing the root cause then? If you don’t believe that Somalia may not become a developed country, why not set a goal to dramatically reduce the high birth rates?

Otherwise, this perpetual cycle will continue with no end in sight. Trying to sustain an ever-increasing population with little available means. Especially during their childhoods and loss of productive potential years for the parents, only for them to migrate during their adolescence is counterproductive in itself and costly for the state.

 

[Kool-Aid]

 

[Kizaru]

I think swahilli speaking folks are too scared to come to Somalia bc of Al shabab

 

[RiceMuncher]

Some of the examples you gave are either easily fixable or could find ways to reduce the effect. The borderline-extortion rates of electricity costs can be heavily reduced though Ethiopia’s high supply of energy. A stable country would pave the way for investors to take advantage of the low-income status and establish industries, and enable aid the local traders to do the same. More bilateral agreements with partner countries willing to increase trade and offer international loans etc. Open up more schools, possibly hire a select number of foreign trained teachers to develop an educated population in specific regions and so do forth.

I agree. We're comparing stable countries to a country that hasn't functioned for 30+ yrs, not fair. Compare Somalia to a poorer country like Burundi, and yet "there are five SOEs in Burundi with 100 percent government ownership: REGIDESO (public utility company), ONATEL (telecom), SOSUMO (sugar), OTB (tea), and COGERCO (cotton)". How many state owned companies do we have? Zero.