Mogadishu and Zeila were always Somali cities

[Factz]

So there has been lying rumours that Mogadishu was founded and built by immigrants from Arabia when in fact they got permission from the local native Somalis to settle in one particular neighbourhood and paid tribute to the local Somali rulers. They were always small and powerless in Mogadishu. They didn't found or rule shit, same applies for Zeila.

These immigrants assimilated and intermarried quickly and became Somalized Arabs.

As for Zeila, sure it was a metropolis multi-cultural city. However, it was also predominantly Somali.

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[Defendant]

So there has been lying rumours that Mogadishu was founded and built by immigrants from Arabia when in fact they got permission from the local native Somalis to settle in one particular neighbourhood and paid tribute to the local Somali rulers. They were always small and powerless in Mogadishu. They didn't found or rule shit, same applies for Zeila.

These immigrants assimilated and intermarried quickly and became Somalized Arabs.

As for Zeila, sure it was a metropolis multi-cultural city. However, it was also predominantly Somali.

@shabellegal @kobe @xalimathe6 @Defendant @Kingcobra @The Gadabursi Nomad @Luna @esmailxxx

Allahu Akbar.

@Factz

I'm surprised that in today's age we have to prove that these were Somali cities.

 

[Zuzu5]

So there has been lying rumours that Mogadishu was founded and built by immigrants from Arabia when in fact they got permission from the local native Somalis to settle in one particular neighbourhood and paid tribute to the local Somali rulers. They were always small and powerless in Mogadishu. They didn't found or rule shit, same applies for Zeila.

These immigrants assimilated and intermarried quickly and became Somalized Arabs.

As for Zeila, sure it was a metropolis multi-cultural city. However, it was also predominantly Somali.

@shabellegal @kobe @xalimathe6 @Defendant @Kingcobra @The Gadabursi Nomad @Luna @esmailxxx

Factz i love you bro, but you can't change history or reference person who twists facts and provides misinterpretations in an effort to appear infallible. This is called Sophism bro. Mogadishu and Hamar are literally named after an arab man/king.

 

[Factz]

Factz i love you bro, but you can't change history or reference person who twists facts and provides misinterpretations in an effort to appear infallible. This is called Sophism bro. Mogadishu and Hamar are literally named after an arab man/king.

Hamar is a Somali word and there are plenty of villages called Hamar across the Somali peninsula.

Do you know what Mogadishu means in Somali?

Mogadishu derived from a morphology of the Somali words "Muuq" and "Disho" which literally means "Sight Killer" or "Blinder" basically referring to the city's blinding beauty.

 

[Zuzu5]

Hamar is a Somali word and there are many villages called Hamar across the Somali peninsula.

Do you know what Mogadishu means in Somali?

Mogadishu derived from a morphology of the Somali words "Muuq" and "Disho" which literally means "Sight Killer" or "Blinder" basically referring to the city's blinding beauty.

Bro this contradicts Somalis coming from the red sea coast.

 

[xalimathe6]

Factz i love you bro, but you can't change history or reference person who twists facts and provides misinterpretations in an effort to appear infallible. This is called Sophism bro. Mogadishu and Hamar are literally named after an arab man/king.

Xamar and Mogadishu are Somali. The city was found by Somali people.

 

[Factz]

Bro this contradicts Somalis coming from the red sea coast.

Somalis originated from northern Somalia. Basically, it's our ancestoral homeland. Why do you think every Somali clans tradition from Samaale to Sab all claim to originate from the north? It's not a coincidence and there is already archaeological evidence for it.

Let's not forget that ancient civilizations are mentioned ruling northern Somalia.

 

[government]

Hamar is a Somali word and there are plenty of villages called Hamar across the Somali peninsula.

Do you know what Mogadishu means in Somali?

Mogadishu derived from a morphology of the Somali words "Muuq" and "Disho" which literally means "Sight Killer" or "Blinder" basically referring to the city's blinding beauty.

Neither Xamar not mogdisho are Somali words just saying

 

[Defendant]

Neither Xamar not mogdisho are Somali words just saying

Alexandria isn't an Egyptian/Arabic name. Yet you will not deny that the city belongs to Egyptian history.

 

[government]

Alexandria isn't an Egyptian/Arabic name. Yet you will not deny that the city belongs to Egyptian history.

I never denied the somalinmo of Xamar I was just correcting him btw Alexandra was found by the Greeks so it's not really a good example

 

[Defendant]

I never denied the somalinmo of Xamar I was just correcting him btw Alexandra was found by the Greeks so it's not really a good example

It was built on the remains of a Pharaonic town.

Which is what I'm saying...

Mogadishu existed before it was called Mogadishu. Same as Zeila.

 

[Factz]

Neither Xamar not mogdisho are Somali words just saying

Lmao yes, both Hamar and Mogadishu are Somali words.

You're also on the list for being a coon anti-Somali. I'm not going to bother with you so just read this: http://phonebookoftheworld.com/mogadishu/

Mogadishu derived from a morphology of the Somali words "Muuq" and "Disho" which literally means "Sight Killer" or "Blinder" basically referring to the city's blinding beauty.

The Persian etymology theory has been debunked because it's not called Maqad Shah. So it's up to you which etymology you want to believe because it's none of my concern.

 

[Zuzu5]

Himyar established no colonies and they eventually got colonized by the Axum Empire.

That information you just posted about came from a blog so it's bullshit. Anything from a blog is made up and not authentified by the historians.

Mogadishu was founded in the second century. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarapion

This thread was about who dominated Mogadishu which I have shown, not about the etymology.

Somalia as commercial and navigational hub at the times of the Late Antiquity, the Yemenite kingdom of Sheba and Himyar and the Abyssinian kingdom of Axum, failed to put the area of Avalites under control; it belonged to the Somalis of the 'Other Berberia'. We were uncolonizable bro

 

[Factz]

Somalia as commercial and navigational hub at the times of the Late Antiquity, the Yemenite kingdom of Sheba and Himyar and the Abyssinian kingdom of Axum, failed to put the area of Avalites under control; it belonged to the Somalis of the 'Other Berberia'. We were uncolonizable bro

Do you know why the region was referred as Berberia?

It is named after the ancient Berbera city which used to be the most powerful Somali city-state at that time. Do you know what it means? It means cinnamon which is a reference to the ubiquitous maritime trade history of the Somali people.

The Somali peninsula was called Barbaria region and was named after the Berbera city.

Here is an interesting ancient text by the Chinese about the Somali city-states.

"In ancient times Somalia was known to the Chinese as the "country of Pi-pa-lo", which had thirteen departmental cities each trying to gain the supremacy over the other. It had twenty thousand troops between them, who wore cuirasses, a protective body armour. The travelogue mentions these Somalis as trading frankincense, incense, myrrh, silk, gold, silver, camels, and among various other commodities, through their port cities such as Malao, Avalites, Mundus, Mosylon and Opone. Competent seamen, the Periplus' author also indicates that they sailed throughout the Red Sea, the Gulf of Aden and across the Indian ocean for trade. The document describes the Somalis system of governance as decentralized and essentially consisting of a collection of autonomous city-states."

Source: Source: Eastern African History By Robert O. Collins Page. 53

 

[.279]

So there has been lying rumours that Mogadishu was founded and built by immigrants from Arabia when in fact they got permission from the local native Somalis to settle in one particular neighbourhood and paid tribute to the local Somali rulers. They were always small and powerless in Mogadishu. They didn't found or rule shit, same applies for Zeila.

These immigrants assimilated and intermarried quickly and became Somalized Arabs.

As for Zeila, sure it was a metropolis multi-cultural city. However, it was also predominantly Somali.

@shabellegal @kobe @xalimathe6 @Defendant @Kingcobra @The Gadabursi Nomad @Luna @esmailxxx @Crow

My history folder is getting THICCCC. Thank you, sir. Always spitting knowledge.

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[Zuzu5]

Do you know why the region was referred as Berberia?

It is named after the ancient Berbera city which used to be the most powerful Somali city-state at that time. Do you know what it means? It means cinnamon which is a reference to the ubiquitous maritime trade history of the Somali people.

The Somali peninsula was called Barbaria region and was named after the Berbera city.

Here is an interesting ancient text by the Chinese about the Somali city-states.

"In ancient times Somalia was known to the Chinese as the "country of Pi-pa-lo", which had thirteen departmental cities each trying to gain the supremacy over the other. It had twenty thousand troops between them, who wore cuirasses, a protective body armour. The travelogue mentions these Somalis as trading frankincense, incense, myrrh, silk, gold, silver, camels, and among various other commodities, through their port cities such as Malao, Avalites, Mundus, Mosylon and Opone. Competent seamen, the Periplus' author also indicates that they sailed throughout the Red Sea, the Gulf of Aden and across the Indian ocean for trade. The document describes the Somalis system of governance as decentralized and essentially consisting of a collection of autonomous city-states."

Source: Source: Eastern African History By Robert O. Collins Page. 53

Bro hold on, you got me thinking.


First of all. The Sabaean / Himyarite Yemenites had colonized and controlled the entire Azania in the south of the Other Berberia. NOT MOGADISHU.

They say Mogadishu was a Nabataean kingdom, How could the kingdom of Azania in the south could have accepted Nabataeans from the north to cross to Africa and establish there a land road trade network that would have led the maritime network (that the Yemenites controlled) to extinction!



And its a fact no arab colonized the north Somalia, They coudl have crossed Abyssinia. So how would king Zoscales of Axumat that time, mentioned in the Periplus of the Red Sea, have allowed the faraway Nabataeans to cross its territory (and if he had not done so, from where would they have arrived beyond Axum’s southern border?) to do something that, if it had been possible, he would have already tried to it namely to control the land routes between Avalites and Rhapta and to impose the land routes as the most frequent ones.

 

[Factz]

Bro hold on, you got me thinking.


First of all. The Sabaean / Himyarite Yemenites had colonized and controlled the entire Azania in the south of the Other Berberia. NOT MOGADISHU.

They say Mogadishu was a Nabataean kingdom, How could the kingdom of Azania in the south could have accepted Nabataeans from the north to cross to Africa and establish there a land road trade network that would have led the maritime network (that the Yemenites controlled) to extinction!



And its a fact no arab colonized the north Somalia, They coudl have crossed Abyssinia. So how would king Zoscales of Axumat that time, mentioned in the Periplus of the Red Sea, have allowed the faraway Nabataeans to cross its territory (and if he had not done so, from where would they have arrived beyond Axum’s southern border?) to do something that, if it had been possible, he would have already tried to it namely to control the land routes between Avalites and Rhapta and to impose the land routes as the most frequent ones.

Repta was the capital city of the ancient Azanian civilization located in southeast Africa. Azanians are believed to have ruled the Swahili coast and the interior: Great Rift Valley during the antiquity period. Mogadishu and the Benadir coast was still classed as Barbaria and according to the ancient Chinese scholars, Barbaria was never ruled by foreigners but the city-states had feuds one another and would claim supramacy one another. Also, it says Himar would do raids but fail to establish control in southern Barbaria as the Somali city-states armies would repel them.

Thank god the book called "The Blacks of Premodern China" tells the truth about the ancient noble Somalis.

 

[Apollo]

We need to change the name of Kismayo, disgusting Bantu name (Chisimayu).

 

[.279]

Repta was the capital city of the ancient Azanian civilization located in southeast Africa. Azanians are believed to have ruled the Swahili coast and the interior: Great Rift Valley during the antiquity period. Mogadishu and the Benadir coast was still classed as Barbaria and according to the ancient Chinese scholars, Barbaria was never ruled by foreigners but the city-states had feuds one another and would claim supramacy one another. Also, it says Himar would do raids but fail to establish control in southern Barbaria as the Somali city-states armies would repel them.

Thank god the book called "The Blacks of Premodern China" tells the truth about the ancient noble Somalis.

Pre modern is like from 1500-1800, what does the book have to do with the city states you named?

 

[Grant]

We need to change the name of Kismayo, disgusting Bantu name (Chisimayu).

Yeah. That will change the history of the South.

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