I could never be laagaab sxb. It’s one of the laws of the universe like gravity. How can you deny science
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And where is this phantom “suhawyan” lineage in mx today
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I don’t need to prove anything Alhamdulilah. It’s beyond me as a Karanle to argue with you regarding Gurey & Amir Nur. My history is institutionalised by the Ethiopian ‘state’. That’s enough. Chat to me when you have a 1k long ‘state’ sponsored monograph on Gurey sitting in Addis and Harar public libraries with references going back 600+ yearsHere comes hotep Karanle boy who likes to steal history from others. Of course you guys need something to rep considering your clan was basically irrelevant until the past century.
They always use the same Cerulli document with different gif’s, colours and formats that states “marexaan oral history claims amir nur”.Langaab Unity Confrence2024 MJ iyo Karanle
I don't need to make up stories and "theories" like langaabs when I know my glorious history.
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Another bum ass cerulli source, that’s stuff is all monkey business, i want credible stuff niyow
Read this thread and educate yourself. Everyday you learn something new
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You've yet to provide any evidence to counter except for your own word. I put the history down in front of you so bring your own receipts and we can talk.
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You've yet to provide any evidence to counter except for your own word. I put the history down in front of you so bring your own receipts and we can talk.
You learned who cerulli is today
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I don’t want to derail this thread any further. This will be my last reply on this topic@Step a side
You've yet to provide any evidence to counter except for your own word. I put the history down in front of you so bring your own receipts and we can talk.
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Saxib your history starts with Siyaad Baree. Ahmed Gurey, Amir Nur and Mahfuz were all Karanle. The books (several), the geographical landscape (highland Karanle nomads built for war strategem), the settlements around Harar (from Hara"maya" of the northwest to Erer Hawiya in its southeast), the trade (slaves and coffee trade were biggest in Imay's civilisation to Harar), the political influence (every colonialist traveller confirms the superiority of Karanle in character and power in the region) and the religiosity (the tariqa of Harar followed Karanle Salihiya and excerpts of the Muslims of Sidamo, Bale and Nagayle show religious indoctrination from Hawiye) all point to this. There is not a single known MX leader buried in Harar in the last thousand years. You have no historical anecdotes about Amir Nur or how he lived or about his father and brother mentioned in the Futuh while there are videos of the Sixawle Ugaas today who knew the location of where Ahmed Gurey use to give his weekly sermons and where they use to train their horses and fight. You are the Hoteps who cannot explain how a random MX pops up among the list of long ruling families like the Karanle, the Walashma etc while the people of Hobat and Mogadishu are recorded to have been at war with Abysinnia since atleast the 1300s. Even an Abyssinian islamised ex slave once took power in Harar and his son inherited him and replaced him. Do you think Marexaan kursi jecle would just come and go as if they wouldn't seek to take the opportunity? Even the Isaaq sultan of Zeila Haji Shermarke once attempted to make Harar capitulate to his feet.
There is evidence of an outbreak of war between Selassie and the Karanle during the 60s when the French came to visit Galbeed to extract resources on the state's behalf, there is evidence of Karanle involvement in the Bale Revolt, there is evidence of war between Ras Makonnen/Menelik the ancestors of Selassie and the Hawiye tribe during the invasion of Harar. Selassie was born and raised in a Hawiye part of Harar and in Ejersa Goro settled by Xaskul Hawiye as a consequence of the historical conflicts. He was the same emperor who went to war against a majority Hawiye army in 64 and got humbled and forced to sign a ceasefire. A Karanle (Murusade) Colonel wiped out 300 of his soldiers in one battle that the Emperor had never forgotten in a famous story resulting in 2 gold medals for that Colonel. Search up Elmi Nuur. The famous Murusade officer who spoke Amharic due to the amount of time he spent on the field and dealt with military intelligence. History is one of continuity!
@Somali Saayid @The Oponian Guild @Jungle @TheLand such low iq individuals we should have a euthanasia program. Bunch of diseased rabid dogs that need to be put down.
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How did this thread turn from hawiye vs hawiye fkd to Marehan karbash?Kid went to Mareexaan University online degree program
That was @The Oponian Guild kkkHow did this thread turn from hawiye vs hawiye fkd to Marehan karbash?
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@Step a side much respect to you for keeping that xayawaan jungle on a short leash.. Khaire for president 2026 
He can be emotional at times but it's only if he's provoked. I can't say the same for the rest. They literally made their qabils their personality while having never seen Somalia. It's actually very sad which is why my recommendations were a little extreme.Why did you spare @Step a side is he your cousin?
I just saw one of your posts in the genetics section you might’ve the worst of allHe can be emotional at times but it's only if he's provoked. I can't say the same for the rest. They literally made their qabils their personality while having never seen Somalia. It's actually very sad which is why my recommendations were a little extreme.
Being interested in genetics of my people is somehow the same as qabil politics?I just saw one of your posts in the genetics section you might’ve the worst of all
It’s worse sxb. None of us said we were genetically different to each other. You said that anything south of Hiiraan contains more SSA. Where’d you say you were from again?
Somalis are not a monolith you fucking idiot and I can acknowledge that without being a qabilist. I'm Majeerteen, now who are you?
In that same thread I also mentioned some Isaaqs have higher mota, why didn't you mention that as well? Making it seem like my opinion is qabil driven against Hawiye. You are a sick individual.
I guess getting defensive must be one of the stages of whatever retarded game you are playing here. I’m not interest kid, now get lost and stop looking for my attention. No self respecting MJ would ever use the word Canjeero either, bilaa nigis batahay laangabyahow ciilan
