Merry Christmas

[Periplus]

How about the black stone you kiss that was kissed by the pagans? Or how the daily 5 prayers were done in the direction towards the Kaaba by the pagans? Or going around the Kaaba multiple times like the pagans did? Why don't you be honest about your own pagan roots? I can go on and on. All these things were included to bring the tribes into the fold . I can go on and on. One can write a book. You all need to be quiet and show some respect.

All these traditions were originally done by Muslims before they were adopted by the Pagans.

The pagans of the Quraysh believed in Allah SWT but associated him as a god amongst their idols.

They used to say bismillah, alhamdulilah just as much as they used to praise their other idols.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

All these traditions were originally done by Muslims before they were adopted by the Pagans.

The pagans of the Quraysh believed in Allah SWT but associated him as a god amongst their idols.

They used to say bismillah, alhamdulilah just as much as they used to praise their other idols.

Yeah OK. They were done before the founding of Islam but it was the Pagans who copied it from the Muslims. Ok.

 

[Apollo]

What a beg

What a grumpy sour person.

 

[TekNiKo]

How about the black stone you kiss that was kissed by the pagans? Or how the daily 5 prayers were done in the direction towards the Kaaba by the pagans? Or going around the Kaaba multiple times like the pagans did? Why don't you be honest about your own pagan roots? I can go on and on. All these things were included to bring the tribes into the fold . I can go on and on. One can write a book. You all need to be quiet and show some respect.

Nope those pagans were following old Abrahamic traditions that there forefathers preached to them. Kissing the blackstone and circling the kacbah were Abraham and his sons traditions nothing to do with paganism which was idol worship they used to go naked and do it. They never performed 5 daily prayers LOl thats a lie. You are misinformed my friend.

 

[Apollo]

Nope those pagans were following old Abrahamic traditions that there forefathers preached to them. Kissing the blackstone and circling the kacbah were Abraham and his sons traditions nothing to do with paganism which was idol worship they used to go naked and do it. They never performed 5 daily prayers LOl thats a lie. You are misinformed my friend.

Lol, Abraham lived between Iraq and Israel.

There is no evidence in Jewish and Christian sources that he lived in Arabia.

 

[TekNiKo]

Lol, Abraham lived between Iraq and Israel.

Even the Bible mentioned his time in Bakka(Mecca)



Valley of the Bakha ("Valley of the Bakha") is mentioned in the Book of Psalms Chapter 84, in the following passage:

Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them. those Who passing through the valley of the Bakha, they make it a spring; Also blessing the first rain will give. They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God.

Confirmed in the Quran.

Bakkah (Arabic: بَكَّةُ [ˈbɛk.kɛh]), is a place mentioned in sura 3 (’Āl ‘Imrān), ayah 96 of the Qur'an, a verse sometimes translated as: " Verily the first House set apart unto mankind was that at Bakkah, blest, and a guidance unto the worlds",[1]

 

[Hybrid()]

All these traditions were originally done by Muslims before they were adopted by the Pagans.

The pagans of the Quraysh believed in Allah SWT but associated him as a god amongst their idols.

They used to say bismillah, alhamdulilah just as much as they used to praise their other idols.

Interesting. Did gulf Arabs pre-islam believed in nabi ciise or they had a religion similar to judism ?

 

[Apollo]

Even the Bible mentioned his time in Bakka(Mecca)



Valley of the Bakha ("Valley of the Bakha") is mentioned in the Book of Psalms Chapter 84, in the following passage:

Confirmed in the Quran.

Bakkah (Arabic: بَكَّةُ [ˈbɛk.kɛh]), is a place mentioned in sura 3 (’Āl ‘Imrān), ayah 96 of the Qur'an, a verse sometimes translated as: " Verily the first House set apart unto mankind was that at Bakkah, blest, and a guidance unto the worlds",[1]

Some historians claim the valley of Bakkah was on the southern fringes of the Byzantine Empire (i.e. the Levant).

 

[Periplus]

Yeah OK. They were done before the founding of Islam but it was the Pagans who copied it from the Muslims. Ok.

Islam believes that it was founded when Adam AS was created.

Every prophet since then followed Islam but it was perverted by man.

 

[Periplus]

Interesting. Did gulf Arabs pre-islam believed in nabi ciise or they had a religion similar to judism ?

Some were Christians, some were Jews.

But the Pagans believed in Allah and the prophets but over time added idols to their worship.

When the Elephants were attacking Mecca, the pagans prayed to Allah at the Kaaba.

 

[Hybrid()]

It amazes me how somalis are litterly historyless. We don't even know what our ancestors used to worship 800 years ago. Are there any written history about somalis by the Aksum empire around 800+ years ago. The Aksum empire must have had in contact with somalis because of our proximity.

 

[TekNiKo]

Some historians claim the valley of Bakkah was on the southern fringes of the Byzantine Empire (i.e. the Levant).

Are you not Muslim? Theres no place called Bakkah in Levant how can you deny Quranic/Biblical proof

 

[anonimo]

@Apollo

Why troll the good folk of Somalispot with this thread?

You could have celebrated Christmas quietly with Big Bossom Hilda, sipped on your favourite Gluhwein and joined an alpine neighbourhood chorus singing Stille Nacht:

 

[Odayga_Jabuuti]

Islam generally frowns upon celebrations of prophets birthdays. The Mawlid was historically frowned upon.

Furthermore, I did ask some sheikhs this and the answer was three fold.

1. Islam actually believes Jesus was born in January, in accordance with the Orthodox.

2. Christmas is a pagan holiday and we know what Islam thinks of Paganism.

3. Islam frowns upon copying non-Muslim traditions.

Christmas comes from Yule, which is actually a pagan holiday.

 

[Periplus]

Christmas comes from Yule, which is actually a pagan holiday.

I noted that bro.

 

[Odayga_Jabuuti]

I noted that bro.

Just have to state what Assassin Creed Valhalla taught me, sorry...

 

[Sueeeeeee]

Merry Christmas

 

[Apollo]

@Apollo

Why troll the good folk of Somalispot with this thread?

You could have celebrated Christmas quietly with Big Bossom Hilda, sipped on your favourite Gluhwein and joined an alpine neighbourhood chorus singing Stille Nacht:

I have been reading Klaus Schwab's book on ''The Fourth Industrial Revolution''.

Actually quite a good book, would recommend.

Next up, the great reset.

 

[anonimo]

I have been reading Klaus Schwab's book on ''The Fourth Industrial Revolution''.

Actually quite a good book, would recommend.

Next up, the great reset.

I will look into it. Thanks.

Do you think the natural resources required for a fourth industrial are infinite? Or do you think man's supposed ingenuity will overcome such a hypothetical hurdle?

I don't know bro but I got a feeling from a Historical perspective that the developed world has had it good for too long. Something's gonna happen sooner or late to thwart the dominant idea that current human progress is linear.

 

[Apollo]

Do you think the natural resources required for a fourth industrial are infinite? Or do you think man's supposed ingenuity will overcome such a hypothetical hurdle?

Not my opinion, but that book has an optimistic outlook on humanity. Lots of doomers/conspiratards have made this guy into a more sophisticated Soros figure who controls the world through influencing leaders at Davos. That tickled my curiosity into reading his work, lol, ironically I mostly agree with him albeit less optimistic than he is. Learned a bit here and there from his work, although a lot I already knew.

I don't know bro but I got a feeling from a Historical perspective that the developed world has had it good for too long. Something's gonna happen sooner or late to thwart the dominant idea that current human progress is linear.

I'm a proponent that a second dark ages/Middle Ages 2.0 is coming where people from the 2100s/2200s/2300s look back at the 1850-2050s as a Classical Era in awe.