Merry Christmas

[Deleted L]

Islam generally frowns upon celebrations of prophets birthdays. The Mawlid was historically frowned upon.

Furthermore, I did ask some sheikhs this and the answer was three fold.

1. Islam actually believes Jesus was born in January, in accordance with the Orthodox.

2. Christmas is a pagan holiday and we know what Islam thinks of Paganism.

3. Islam frowns upon copying non-Muslim traditions.

You might be mistaken actually. The Mawlid was celebrated for centuries in most Muslim lands and many scholars have permitted it. It was never really frowned upon.

 

[Boujie]

You might be mistaken actually. The Mawlid was celebrated for centuries in most Muslim lands and many scholars have permitted it. It was never really frowned upon.

It is frowned upon, give sources to back your claims if you say otherwise

 

[Deleted L]

It is frowned upon, give sources to back your claims if you say otherwise

There are many sources out there. Imam Suyuti, a well known great scholar who’s status is recognized by Ahlu-Sunnah, permitted and defended the Mawlid.

http://www.ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/sublime-aspiration.pdf

Mullah Ali Qari, well known Hanafi scholar who wrote a book on the Mawlid.

 

[Abdisamad]

Sunnis are the last people to be calling other religions as pagan influenced. Look in the mirror and stop insulting other people's religious beliefs.

Thank you for the Christmas wishes @Apollo

Merry Christmas to my fellow farax brethren pastor Abdi and @Apollo

 

[Deleted L]

There are many sources out there. Imam Suyuti, a well known great scholar who’s status is recognized by Ahlu-Sunnah, permitted and defended the Mawlid.

http://www.ridawipress.org/wp-content/uploads/sublime-aspiration.pdf

Mullah Ali Qari, well known Hanafi scholar who wrote a book on the Mawlid.

@Boujie

The Anti Mawlid stance (which is a valid difference of opinion many scholars share) started to become popular in our times due to Salafi influence, there are difference of opinion on it’s permissibity and one can quote many scholars who deem it permissible and brought forth their arguments. It isn’t as black and white as many would like to think. It’s a well known fact that Somalis, North Africans, South Asians, Turks, Arabs etc used to celebrate the Prophet’s ﷺ birthday in their cultures, and his ﷺ birthday was even celebrated in Mecca before Saudi Arabia was established and before Salafism became a trend. So the claim that it was “frowned down upon” is probably not true.

 

[Shimbiris]

@Boujie

The Anti Mawlid stance (which is a valid difference of opinion many scholars share) started to become popular in our times due to Salafi influence, there are difference of opinion on it’s permissibity and one can quote many scholars who deem it permissible and brought forth their arguments. It isn’t as black and white as many would like to think. It’s a well known fact that Somalis, North Africans, South Asians, Turks, Arabs etc used to celebrate the Prophet’s ﷺ birthday in their cultures, and his ﷺ birthday was even celebrated in Mecca before Saudi Arabia was established and before Salafism (with their oil money backing their movement) became a trend. So the claim that it was “frowned down upon” is probably not true.

Walaal, what exactly is your own religious sect within Islam? Are you a Sufi or?

 

[Deleted L]

Walaal, what exactly is your own religious sect within Islam? Are you a Sufi or?

I’m just a regular Sunni Muslim who primarily follows the Shafi’i madhab.

 

[Delta93]

It’s the day were thousands of babies were slaughtered

 

[TekNiKo]

Its a pagan tradition nothing to do with original Christianity. Romans introduced it when they were turned Christian and infused their pagan traditions. Its why the “Christmas Tree” is placed its an old Roman pagan ode to prosperity

 

[Jaydaan]

Sunnis are the last people to be calling other religions as pagan influenced. Look in the mirror and stop insulting other people's religious beliefs.

Thank you for the Christmas wishes @Apollo

Real Christians don’t celebrate Christmas. It’s a pagan holiday and Jesus was born in the summer

 

[reer]

 

[Siddhartha]

Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

 

[sunoctober8]

Finnish Santa Claus?
He is masculine
He is strong
He is not fond of annoying kids
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Hot damn if I ever saw a demon wtf is this and they celebrate this wow .

 

[Angelina]

If Jesus was a prophet and one of the most important ones, how come Muslims don't celebrate Christmas?

It can be culturally appropriated and changed to make it Islamic.

No,

Christmas is traditionally a pagan holiday and ancient Europeans used to have celebrations on the 25th.

Christians at the time merely pretended Jesus was born on the 25th to appease the pagans and help them make their conversion easier.

 

[Shimbiris]

Christians at the time merely pretended Jesus was born on the 25th to appease the pagans and help them make their conversion easier.

Pathetic. I'd have just kept burning them at the stake until they understood how unacceptable paganism is.

*burns Gunther at the stake*

"Do you renounce Thor yet, Germanic savage? No? Flavius! Turn up the heat!"

 

[Aurelian]

Hot damn if I ever saw a demon wtf is this and they celebrate this wow .

They used to, especially between Sami people

 

[Apollo]

No,

Christmas is traditionally a pagan holiday and ancient Europeans used to have celebrations on the 25th.

Christians at the time merely pretended Jesus was born on the 25th to appease the pagans and help them make their conversion easier.

Nobody knows when Yeshua was born, as he died around the Spring Equinox it was assumed he was born around the Winter Solstice as it was prophetical to have died on the day of birth.

 

[anonimo]

If Jesus was a prophet and one of the most important ones, how come Muslims don't celebrate Christmas?

It can be culturally appropriated and changed to make it Islamic.

Xalal Christmas songs on the car radio? No thanks!

Must confess though, I sin during this time of the year by blasting this song when it is played on the car radio. I sing along like a Paddy possessed!


From the 1.30 mark

 

[Abdalla]

What a beg

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Its a pagan tradition nothing to do with original Christianity. Romans introduced it when they were turned Christian and infused their pagan traditions. Its why the “Christmas Tree” is placed its an old Roman pagan ode to prosperity

How about the black stone you kiss that was kissed by the pagans? Or how the daily 5 prayers were done in the direction towards the Kaaba by the pagans? Or going around the Kaaba multiple times like the pagans did? Why don't you be honest about your own pagan roots? I can go on and on. All these things were included to bring the tribes into the fold. One can write a book. You all need to be quiet and show some respect.