MBS is a kaffir

Omar del Sur

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Please be careful using that word. It should not be used lightly. The MBS are munafiq not k*ffirs.

I think a munafiq is necessarily a kaffir. I believe a munafiq by definition is a kaffir who poses as a Muslim. I think calling someone a munafiq is thus a form of takfir. A muslim can have elements of nifaq, they may have a limited amount of nifaq... but someone who is a munafiq I believe is necessarily a kaffir.
 

Almis

The Gulf of Berbera
He said that Saudi Arabia has bad laws.
The law that they follow most of the time is shari'a

4.5 is straight up kufur why dont you takfir Somalia leaders and for bringing Amisom to Muslim lands? Answer the question and stop being a munafiq khariji
 
I think a munafiq is necessarily a kaffir. I believe a munafiq by definition is a kaffir who poses as a Muslim. I think calling someone a munafiq is thus a form of takfir. A muslim can have elements of nifaq, they may have a limited amount of nifaq... but someone who is a munafiq I believe is necessarily a kaffir.
Do you really believe that? Nifaq is divided into two different parts. Not all who commit acts of nifaq are disbelievers.
 

Djokovic

Somali Arab
I don’t like the guy but you can’t make takfir of him this makes you the same as al shabab and daesh
 

Avalanche

Guul iyo Gobanimo
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I think a munafiq is necessarily a kaffir. I believe a munafiq by definition is a kaffir who poses as a Muslim. I think calling someone a munafiq is thus a form of takfir. A muslim can have elements of nifaq, they may have a limited amount of nifaq... but someone who is a munafiq I believe is necessarily a kaffir.
It’s really not the same. You mixing it up.
 

Omar del Sur

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Do you really believe that? Nifaq is divided into two different parts. Not all who commit acts of nifaq are disbelievers.

It’s really not the same. You mixing it up.

I don't dispute that there is minor nifaq and major nifaq. Someone who falls into minor nifaq is not a kaffir.

But I think it's strange to call someone a munafiq who is only guilty of minor nifaq. I think "munafiq" normally refers to people who are guilty of major nifaq, who are outright kaffirs.

for example Sheikh Ibn Baz here says that the munafiqun are kuffar:

"إذا عرفت أنه كافر فهو كافر، المنافقون كفار، قال الله في حقهم: إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ فِي الدَّرْكِ الْأَسْفَلِ مِنَ النَّارِ وَلَنْ تَجِدَ لَهُمْ نَصِيرًا [النساء:145] نسأل الله العافية، فهم منافقون ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ آمَنُوا ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا فَطُبِعَ عَلَى قُلُوبِهِمْ [المنافقون:3بر]."

https://binbaz.org.sa/fatwas/2742/اطلاق-الكفر-على-المنافق

on the other hand, Sheikh Luhaydan to my understanding believes it isn't takfir as long you intend minor nifaq... but even he I think seems sort of uncomfortable at the question... so I guess technically maybe you could use it to refer to someone who is guilty of minor nifaq but I think it's weird to use "munafiq" in that way...

 
What industrial pi
The problem with MBS isn't his religious policy as much as he isn't fundamentally competent. He's obsessed with the veneer of being a developed Western nation that he overlooks the nitty gritty which is industrial policy.
What exact industrial policy?
 

Gacmeey

Madaxweynaha Qurbo Joogta 🇸🇴
4.5 is straight up kufur why dont you takfir Somalia leaders and for bringing Amisom to Muslim lands? Answer the question and stop being a munafiq khariji
How is 4.5 as a power sharing agreement kufur lol:drakewtf:
 

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