Mathamatics Questions

[DR OSMAN]

As your aware I am fascinated by 'Maths' and wonder if there is any other Somalis who are interested in this field? The importance of Maths to the world is not in doubt, everything in the world we see is first grounded in 'maths'. It's like cooking, before you cook, you need a 'recipe' right? Well in all inventions the recipe is 'maths' or 'equations'. What is your understanding of maths and what side of Maths do you like?

I am not interested in the 'calculation side' as that doesn't create 'anything' in the world. Like doing your multiplication and divisions for no other reason then 'calculation' is very high school level stuff. I mean you need to know these basic functions in your equations but that's about it. I prefer 'Theoritical Maths'. I prefer looking at the world around me and working out the different elements, forces, relationships, patterns and finding useful solutions or do you prefer 'applied maths' where your given an industry problem to work out for example @PhySom seems more intune with applied maths and his quantum love and not so much 'theory maths'.

You cannot achieve 'Quantum' without the underlying theory though. Lets get back into our science discussions @PhySom cause this is going to be 'edge' we can maintain on Somali clans who are clue-less on the 'concrete' sciences. Most Somalis waste their time in degrees of humanities or subjects that are purely 'conjecture and philosophy' like politics, economics, etc.

We are focusing on a real field that 'produces' concrete inventions and there is no 'conjecture' to it. What are you hopes this field picks up pace in PL who are all focused on 'professional' sector industries like 'lawyers, accountants, finance, HR, Social Sciences, Medicine, Nurses'?

Some Interesting questions I have for you.

Zero - Is it real and provable? Can you show me something that is 'zero'?
Numbers - Their have been differing scripts and languages for numbers proving it's man made. Can u prove it's natural in the world or is it just human invention?
Infinity - Does it exist and is it measureable
Elements - Can we group elements into libraries and find relationships among them or do u prefer to list each element in your equation to demonstrate a relationship as you compute it?
Measuring Units - How do you define measuring units for volume, space, speed, time, quantity, weight, liquids, mass, or is it random? This is critical part of maths or else the recipe may not work if not measured properly against the elements in your equation.

What is holding Somalis back from Mathamatics? This is the heart of all 'industries' you work in, if you take away mathamatics the world stops.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom We can do it and get to work on the theory behind 'drones' and start listing the 'elements' and forces and coordinates by using basic mathamatic functions like multiplication/addition/substraction/division since this literally the only 'calculation' you need in maths, the rest is finding relationship between the elements of the Earth.. We can start handing over the formula to PL govt who can begin calling the engineers to begin construction of our Drones.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom We can do it and get to work on the theory behind 'drones' and start listing the 'elements' and forces and coordinates by using basic mathamatic functions like multiplication/addition/substraction/division since this literally the only 'calculation' you need in maths, the rest is finding relationship between the elements of the Earth.. We can start handing over the formula to PL govt who can begin calling the engineers to begin construction of our Drones.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Come on @PhySom I am now in your section. Can u define how the elements relationship in the natural world and please provide 'sequences and structure' in a beautiful equation as the equation will tell us the recipe and how to begin engineering Quantum. No engineering is possible without the underlying 'theory' and we need more in Somalia to pass on these theories to help industries of the world and patent it the shit out of it. Only Majerten will lead I assume as they are already targeting Chemistry field.

We will expand it inshallah because even the 'lab' work is after the 'theory' has been worked out. Majertens need to focus on 'theory' work but we are slowly implementing a scientific modelled society.

While Hawiye n Isaaq are busy with 15 century idealogical movements of religiosity and terrorism. Even the gun they carry came thru 'maths' lool not terrorism loooool. We will be so ahead of them as they fall back into 15th century, while we are powering on 21st century and becoming mathamatical theorists.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom come on dude don't hide duli yahow. We talking some basic mathamatical theories here that were achieved 2000 years ago. Ok let's talk about the 'elements'. Their is Air, Fire, Water, Earth. I know as time went on 'earth' has thousands of elements, Fire has thousands now, and same with water being converted into various liquids. But lets go back to the 'beginning' to list the basic elements of the earth and we will slowly work out way down to the 21st century. We will start listing 'relationships' between elements. For example what's the relationship between Air and Earth?

We will call this equation for argument sake EA. Sorry I haven't used my 'alegbra' notions. But we need to look for 'patterns, forces, pressures can one exist without the other'. Dude this is 'physics' we are study the physical reality ma garatay.

We already got courses delivering it in Puntland. It's simply developing relationships between elements in physics and creating something out of it. U need to use basic calculations only. Then we can go Puntland Labs and begin 'testing' it out. It's one of the easiest fields for puntites I think to grasp because it only needs 'big picture' thinking. U can learn the algebra notations it's only a language that one not the 'physics' at all. Real Physics is doing experiments on the elements outside iin reality. The algebra notation is just to 'display' it in university langauge nothing else. I am terrible at algebra notations like a,y,z, etc. I like getting my hands dirty and doing thought e xperiments on natural world to see how thinks link together. Remember everything is LINKED, we just need to find the 'link' thats PHYSICS.

f*ck YOU PHYSOM YOU BECOME LIKE DOQONKI OGADEN DOOLO LAGA QAADYEE

 

[DR OSMAN]

U should know better then anyone how the west thinks. They will find the scientific reason behind our nations 'savagery' and become pilot projects to test it. I invite western academics to perform 'tests' on s who live in a 'vacuum' for 30 years defying all scientific logic of chaos yet life. This could be groundbreaking to excel the west knowledge of social sciences.

In 2000, de Bono advised a UK Foreign Office committee that the Arab–Israeli conflict might be due, in part, to low levels of zinc found in people who eat unleavened bread (e.g. pita flatbread). De Bono argues that low zinc levels leads to heightened aggression. He suggested shipping out jars of Marmite to compensate.[11][12]

In 2005 he was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Economics.

Watch this @PhySom

Half the problem is you 'thinking style' you already 'reach a decision' and then look for evidence to support it. U need to always 'relook' at something from different angles and not be attached to your 'premise' as it can lead to 'wrong answer. It's how u view something that can determine where that ends. Lateral thinking and Abstract thinking is missing in the world. People are geared towards logic thinking. U need to 'power your brain' not just 'read the magazine' for answers. U want to contribute in the future right?

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom I can't wait to go to badhan outer villages and begin 'data' collection of the huts, literacy levels, mathamatical knowledge, aggresion levels, thinking styles, emotional levels and bring it to De Bono to examine what 'era' in Europe was this sort of lifestyle and begin 'diagnosing' to find out physical medications or society re-organization. Sxb Somalis are not apart of the human race, we can use science to prove it, all we need is the DATA.

De Bono will be like this when he sees Badhan village data and say my ancestor 2000 years ago was at this level

 

[DR OSMAN]

@PhySom I love how he said the world is set up on 'arguments' point A vs point B. For example centralist vs federalist in Somalispot. They spend all day trying to convince each other of their points and ends in 'no point' kkkkkkkk. The lack of creativity thinking in them makes them fail to realize to set up a 'standard methodology and 'grading' system for their points against Somalia well being and accept the grading point delivered. See it's that sort of brain power missing in Somalia, they just go back n forth and spend their lives wasted in 30 years of no progress rather then agreeing to create a 'methodology' to 'weigh up their' arguments against agreed 'variables' for Somalia. For example let's agree what Somalia is.

1 Variable is Somalia is owned by all People and all People are Equal
2. Variable is Somalia all people should be free and happy
3. Variable 3 could be we don't want a 'repeat' of the same government structure of previous Somalia

I can do it bro, I will attend a debate like that on National TV, if we present our arguments and 'weigh' it against some 'criteria' that we agree on and who ever has the strongest view will have the 'best' result against the methodology. The debate is over then, no more 'isqabqabsi' and muran, we just fucking move forward. I do not want to attend FKD shit on TV of my opinion is better then yours. I want fuckin science and national forum on TV between centralists, federalist, and federation supporters. I have joined the camp of Federation supporters as I find Federalism is slowing down development due to political infighting

 

[DR OSMAN]

Dude @PhySom where the f*ck are u bro? Let's talk Physics not 'biology' or living organism. Just physical things nothing else. I have a question for you. How did physical matter gain so many differing mathamatical properties such as various points, angles, weights, lengths, widths, volume, height if their all under the same laws of 'time n space'? How is a fuckin tree so tall, and heavier, and composed of various mathamatical dimentions and differing elements while I am shorter, less weight, with less mathamatical properties. Is time 'static' or 'dynamic'? These are sorts of question u should be asking in physics bro, it's purely about physical dead things not LIVING THINGS.

Somalis lack the brain power for physics and it's probably one of the easiest subjects to learn since it's all just 'measurements' and working out 'element' differences. Infact Somalis lack mathamatic skills and do not understand 'weight' and 'scores' are numbers also. U need to apply mathamatical measurement on your debate points for Somalia overall government.

 

[PhySom]

Bro I am busy , have university projects to work on, i will answer your questions soo .

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro I am busy , have university projects to work on, i will answer your questions soo .

Alway study from nobel prize winners in your field not your DUMB ASS TEACHER, if he was good, he would be a NOBEL. That's the trick to get better grades and enter HIGH DISTINCTIONS. I worked for me in my bachelor for technology, I am still using it that method to expand my thinking power. I also now added 'jewish' teachers to 'excel' it further so my works to the professor is of high quality content that even makes him re-question our field of expertise.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Waaqo of Punt you just read junk online bro from .COM websites. Not academic journals where Nobel prizes are, you always going to fall behind bro in the world as u never receive an award cause the sources your reading are not SCIENCE therefore u never end up contributing to a ny field you work in and just become another XAMAALI

 

[Ras]

Lol you just asked questions Field prize winners (no Nobel prize in math other than the Abel prize) other top mathematicians and philosophers have been trying to figure for centuries.

Somalis don't have pure mathematicians because we never had the spare capacity to invest in it.

If you're a kid who's good at maths and likes it you don't have any choice but to pick something practical in order to move your family out the ghetto (Africa).

If we had rich patrons that invested in pure academic institutions like the old Europeans and Arabs did then we could've had some Somali field prize winners.

Inshallah we'll start getting some in the next couple decades.

 

[Ras]

While we're trying to solve millennium level problems here on sspot here are some you could add to the list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics

I'll gift a thousand Somali shilling to whoever can solve any unsolved ones.

To claim your winnings first pm me your proof and I'll first verify it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Lol you just asked questions Field prize winners (no Nobel prize in math other than the Abel prize) other top mathematicians and philosophers have been trying to figure for centuries.

Somalis don't have pure mathematicians because we never had the spare capacity to invest in it.

If you're a kid who's good at maths and likes it you don't have any choice but to pick something practical in order to move your family out the ghetto (Africa).

If we had rich patrons that invested in pure academic institutions like the old Europeans and Arabs did then we could've had some Somali field prize winners.

Inshallah we'll start getting some in the next couple decades.

Bro I am not a mathatmatician though. I am barely a technology guy beyond 'engineer' level, even though I aspire to 'architect' runti. But mathamatical stuff really does interest me because all my technology is grounded in it, same with any industry be it medicine, chemistry, weapons, without maths their is no way to set up the equation and interconnect the elements required for the equation. It's all just 'elements' equation like 'factors' u need to take into consideration. It reminds me of 'cooking recipe' before you can make a 'cake' you need the recipe right plus u need to structure and sequence and relationships defined in ingredients. Well the ingredient is ELEMENTS in equations. The rest is 'measurements' of each element like multiply/substract/divide/addition. U need to know how to use those basic functions to 'measure' the elements of your equation. The more simpler t he e quation the better they say. If it's long and nasty it's not good equation.

I kinda wish I did mathamatics wallahi, u will have a job in any industry that requires the theory behind all their workplace.

 

[sanger]

This guy has a jinni in him

 

[DR OSMAN]

@RasCanjero I don't see any evidences supporting a 'zero' in the world around me. There is always 'something' not 'nothing'. Even if you burn something it just converts to something else like the laws say about 'energy' nothing disappears, it always just become something else or in another state. I like the laws behind science, since 'laws' are applicable to 'all' and good to read about the established 'laws' before you delve into 'equations' because equations are not 'laws' they just allow you to take one material of earth and other aspect of earth to create something else like 'energy' says about energy it's never 'destroyed' but converts to something else. U jus need the mathamatical guidance to know how much to measure of each to get what u want.

 

[Ras]

@RasCanjero I don't see any evidences supporting a 'zero' in the world around me. There is always 'something' not 'nothing'. Even if you burn something it just converts to something else like the laws say about 'energy' nothing disappears, it always just become something else or in another state. I like the laws behind science, since 'laws' are applicable to 'all' and good to read about the established 'laws' before you delve into 'equations' because equations are not 'laws' they just allow you to take one material of earth and other aspect of earth to create something else like 'energy' says about energy it's never 'destroyed' but converts to something else. U jus need the mathamatical guidance to know how much to measure of each to get what u want.

How many Dr Osman were there before you?

Zero?

0, 1 and infinite are the only numbers that make intuitive sense in my tiny brain as natural.

Sxb my IQ is 67 and my brain hurts just thinking of these things but I always had an interest in pure mathematics and it's relations to some deep philosophical questions.

Especially number theory and how prime numbers give us a clue that numbers aren't just a man-made concept but have representations in nature.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@RasCanjero bro mathamaticians who are 'theorists' do not need to know 'complex calculations' they present the 'theory' and hand it over to the lower IQ guys to put thru the calculations and establish the formula. It's like Cooking. The theory guy figures out what you need, the lower physicist put's it together to see if something actually comes out of it like a 'cake' or 'negative reaction' loooooooool.

Welcome to mathamatical theory bro, the number crunchers are like the 'cooks' in the kitchen putting together all the ingredients(elements) and testing and trying and as you can see 99% ends in 'failure'. U need 'theory' guys like Einstein, Newton, etc who present the 'structure, sequence, order, idea' and says now go do it waryaahe. Mathamatics has different fields bro. I prefer the 'theory' stuff. I am terrible at 'writing' formulas but I can put together the elements in my mind(thought experiments) and ask a normal physicist to run it thru the LABS using the precise 'formula' I provided. Thought experiments is what I am good at and always have been. I can see something already in my imagination before I need to confirm it thru 'testing'. Some people are good at 'testing' side of physics but they have no idea of the 'theory' they follow the formula u gave them. I want Somalis at that level, that's NOBELS.

But as a 'theorist' u definitely need to know the 'laws' of science, it's pointless doing equations if you don't know the laws all reality is based on. It's like talking politics and not knowing the 'laws' lol. But beyond that, you don't need to know much 'number crunching' loooooool you can delegate that work to the guys who depend on your 'theory or formula' first.

What u think of evolution? I am evolutionist and that's why @Cognitivedissonance hates me. The theory looks like the only one which is observable. Man made from 'clay' doesn't make sense, 'clay' is not living 'organism' looooooooooool. What makes sense is the world inititally was basic earthly materials with the 'elements' of course like wind, air, rain and from that you 'small life' developed. U see it in Somalia with those puddles of water sitting in neighborhoods, you see 'organism' like bacteria develop. It looks like a fuckin 'soup' as they say in biology lol. Waa saxan soup oo kale ayaa all life ka timi kkkkk imagine that and it just 'mutuated' over time into other living organism.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@RasCanjero It's the strongest theory I've seen that is observable that life forms from 'water' and elements such as bacteria. I support the 'soup' theory for life origin. What about you? I am however careful to realize 'time' is relative as Einstein taught, so maybe god did create us as he said in the quran on his side of 'time' but not on our side of 'time and space' looooooool cause we know non living matter like clay has no possibility of life. But I also do respect that we turn into 'soil' eventually thru 'time degradation of our bones as it breaks down in structure over millions of years. Lots of people of lived on 'earth' yet we find not much remains lol, their apart of the SOIL you walk on. Unless they were lucky and conserved thru some pure luck chance like in 'ice' or 'cave' or the place they live was the right temperature. We have to remember the different climates earth went thru, all previous signs of human or any life may have disappeared lol. So the story of the earth is a complex one that needs careful analysis on various 'factors'

 

[Ras]

@RasCanjero bro mathamaticians who are 'theorists' do not need to know 'complex calculations' they present the 'theory' and hand it over to the lower IQ guys to put thru the calculations and establish the formula. It's like Cooking. The theory guy figures out what you need, the lower physicist put's it together to see if something actually comes out of it like a 'cake' or 'negative reaction' loooooooool.

Welcome to mathamatical theory bro, the number crunchers are like the 'cooks' in the kitchen putting together all the ingredients(elements) and testing and trying and as you can see 99% ends in 'failure'. U need 'theory' guys like Einstein, Newton, etc who present the 'structure, sequence, order, idea' and says now go do it waryaahe. Mathamatics has different fields bro. I prefer the 'theory' stuff. I am terrible at 'writing' formulas but I can put together the elements in my mind(thought experiments) and ask a normal physicist to run it thru the LABS using the precise 'formula' I provided. Thought experiments is what I am good at and always have been. I can see something already in my imagination before I need to confirm it thru 'testing'. Some people are good at 'testing' side of physics but they have no idea of the 'theory' they follow the formula u gave them. I want Somalis at that level, that's NOBELS.

But as a 'theorist' u definitely need to know the 'laws' of science, it's pointless doing equations if you don't know the laws all reality is based on. It's like talking politics and not knowing the 'laws' lol. But beyond that, you don't need to know much 'number crunching' loooooool

Sxb don't besmirch the noble field like that.

Creating these theorems takes countless hours of repetitive calculations.

It might take decades of this work before you finally are able to put together a proof.

You can't really out mathematicians and physicist in the same category.

One is trying to make sense of the rules in our universe and the other in all possible universes.

They both use the language of math but speak different dialects.